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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumstRump caught it on or before 9/22. He is the super spreader
HE KNEW he had it before stepping on to the debate stage on Tuesday. He likely contracted it on 9/22/20 at his Pittsburgh rally. If not that day, then during the 4 previous days, 3 of which contained super spreader rallies.
The clue for figuring this out is using the New York Times and CNN's timeline and factoring in the incubation period (and the presymptomatic contagious period). On average it's 5 days incubation, with the final 2 of those 5 days potentially involving presymptomatic spread.
Ronna Mcdaniel met with tRump on 9/25/20 and caught it from him. This means trump had to have caught it at least 3 days prior in order to be contagious. tRump also passed it to Hope Hicks that day. Neither Hope Hicks nor Ronna Mcdaniel attended the Supreme Court event on Saturday 9/26/20, which is why we can rule them out as the super spreaders. If Ronna had given it to trump, there wouldn't have been enough incubation time for tRump to spread it to everyone the next day.
Kelly Loeffler, Kkkemp and Perdue can also be ruled out as the initial spreaders because that wouldn't explain Ronna's infection. trump could not have given it to Ronna after having contracted the virus just 3 hours earlier. Also, keep in mind that trump requires that everyone meeting with him be tested in advance.
The questions regarding tRump's last negative test and first positive test were really important. It's obvious why the White House doctor refused to answer. I believe trump had a positive test by 9/27, which is consistent with what we know about incubation periods. Chris Wallace confirms the trump camp did NOT show up on 9/27/20 to be tested by the clinic.
Once trump received that first positive test, he probably went into deep denial and refused to take any more tests, insisting they were fake or unreliable. The part that is still confusing is why the inner circle continued to be near him without a mask on. Did they drink trump's Kool-Aid regarding the virus affecting "virtually nobody?" Were they in denial along with tRump, or did they rationalize it with Dr. Atlas's herd mentality (immunity) nonsense?
There will be at least 2 deaths from this. tRump might skate, once again, because he's receiving the best care in the world. Heads are going to roll when this leaks.
9/18: MN Rally
9/19: NC Rally
9/20: Golf club VA
9/21: Ohio rally
9/22: PA Rally
9/24: Jacksonville Rally
9/25: Florida, Georgia and Virginia with rally in VA
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/trump-covid-timeline/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-contact-tracing-covid.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
Richard D
(8,752 posts). . . and shouting is enough to spew droplets and virus all over the room in which he speaks.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)nilram
(2,886 posts)Nice analysis.
nilram
(2,886 posts)(I mean, to twitter thread that this links to.)
BComplex
(8,036 posts)She's in the pictures both inside and outside.