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Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:30 PM

If Pence gets sick& can't take over if need be, Nancy has to resign speaker to take over POTUS.

Just saying...sure are a lot of potential moving pieces in this chess game.
Remember that West Wing episode when Bartlett's daughter was kidnapped and there was no VP, so speaker of the house had to take over?

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Reply If Pence gets sick& can't take over if need be, Nancy has to resign speaker to take over POTUS. (Original post)
Amaryllis Oct 2020 OP
progressive nobody Oct 2020 #1
Amaryllis Oct 2020 #3
lapucelle Oct 2020 #11
634-5789 Oct 2020 #2
WonderGrunion Oct 2020 #4
kurtcagle Oct 2020 #5
lapucelle Oct 2020 #6
Lochloosa Oct 2020 #12
lapucelle Oct 2020 #14
Lochloosa Oct 2020 #18
lapucelle Oct 2020 #20
Lochloosa Oct 2020 #21
LisaL Oct 2020 #7
mercuryblues Oct 2020 #8
Lochloosa Oct 2020 #13
mercuryblues Oct 2020 #19
beachbumbob Oct 2020 #9
Amaryllis Oct 2020 #17
beachbumbob Oct 2020 #22
lapucelle Oct 2020 #10
Jim__ Oct 2020 #15
Always Randy Oct 2020 #16

Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:32 PM

1. If I remember correctly she has to resign a rep og California. You can only hold

 

one position at a time.

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Response to progressive nobody (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:33 PM

3. Right. Which also means no more speaker position.

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Response to progressive nobody (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:08 PM

11. Speaker Pelosi would not hold the office (position) of the presidency itself.

She would only be assuming its powers as an acting president.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xxv

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:33 PM

2. Stop trying to cheer me up!

President Pelosi has a GREAT ring to it

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:36 PM

4. And then she could pull the nomination of Handmaid's Tale

It would be ironic if Amy Coney Barrett sunk her own nomination on a microscopic scale.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:40 PM

5. Prior to the election,

Pence would become president. There's roughly four weeks between now and the election, so the likelihood of him getting sick (or worse dying) is very low. If it should, then yes, Nancy would have to resign as Speaker of the House to become the president, something which I suspect she would have no problem with - she is old enough that it would be a nice retirement present. If Biden wins, it's almost certain that she would work closely with Biden during the transition, and maybe even give a nice jumpstart to what would likely be a very tumultuous transition otherwise.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:44 PM

6. Is vice presidential inability considered a vice presidential vacancy under the 25th amendment?

Additionally, is it necessary for an acting president (as opposed to a president who succeeded to the actual office) to resign from Congress?

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #6)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:10 PM

12. There is not an "acting" President. You either are or you aren't.

If the president can't fulfill the duties, pence is president. If he can't fulfill the duties, Nancy is president. Lines of succession. There is not an acting President in the constitution.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:13 PM

14. Pence would be Acting President. There is an Acting President provision in the constitution.

It's in the 25th amendment.

Amendment XXV
Section 3
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.


It is only when the president dies or is removed from office that that the Vice President becomes President.

Amendment XXV
Section 1
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xxv
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:27 PM

18. I stand corrected.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #18)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:34 PM

20. Magnanimous AND a Garcia fan......that's the whole package.

I only just read the actual amendment myself today.

I was wondering why neither Bush nor Cheney had to resign the vice presidency when they temporarily took over for an incapacitated president.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #20)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:44 PM

21. Lol. It does get confusing

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:45 PM

7. Why are we discussing these bizarre scenarios?

Pence is likely to have only mild symptoms even if he were to get covid.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:48 PM

8. Well republicans did promise that they would force Nancy out of the Speakership

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Response to mercuryblues (Reply #8)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:12 PM

13. To become President she would have to resign. Period.

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:32 PM

19. Correct. IOW she will resign her speakership, as they promised.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 06:57 PM

9. why would it matter if she resigns from Speaker?

 

not clear what the question or concern is

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:21 PM

17. Not a question or concern. Just thinking about the many moving pieces here and it

will be very interesting to see how it all plays out.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #17)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 08:28 PM

22. The democratic house caucus would elect a new leader.

 

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:01 PM

10. Your headline may not be accurate.

The Speaker would be assuming the powers and the duties of the presidency, not the office itself.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:15 PM

15. If Nancy becomes president, I'll be ecstatic.

She'll have much more power than she has now. Moscow Mitch would be totally impotent.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Oct 3, 2020, 07:16 PM

16. Joe Biden could be appointed Speaker of the House now

Nancy could step down temporally---the House appoints Biden Speaker---he assumes the Presidency-appoints Harris as VP--Nancy gets reelected to Speaker ---EZPZ-------and this is what might happen ---if the GOP Senate is sick ----maybe AOC could be appointed to SCOTUS

The Constitution does not require the speaker to be an incumbent member of the House of Representatives, although every speaker thus far has been.[4] The speaker is second in the United States presidential line of succession, after the vice president and ahead of the president pro tempore of the Senate.[2]

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