What does a Cherokee look like?

[Tanuki]

Scott Brown should educate himself, starting with this video produced by the Cherokee nation.

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[northoftheborder]

1. I can see a Native American trait in Elizabeth Warren's face: her beautiful wide & high cheekbones.

Wish I had some like that.

[Voice for Peace]

7. agree, I see it too

especially living in a place with high population of Native
Americans I do recognize features in her face and Scott
Brown is a shallow ass, I hope everyone has seen him
for his irrelevance.

[Warpy]

2. The Cherokee tribe was the one tribe that beat white folks

at their own game and started to amass wealth and power.

That's why they were evicted from their tribal lands and marched off to Oklahoma, one of the most shameful things in a long and shameful history of European mistreatment of tribal people.

Some hid and remained behind. The ones who fled are the ones who developed a written language (which is really quite beautiful, if you've ever seen it) and worked hard to be an inclusive tribe instead of pretending they were like horses. They recognized a long time ago that it's culture, not color, that binds them together.

[MysticLynx]

25. Actually

"The ones who fled are the ones who developed a written language" Is incorrect. The CWY had a written language, schools, printing press,and even a newspaper all BEFORE the Trail of Tears- The man that brought the written language back to use was also Mixed-Blood his name was Sequoyah. There is no R sound in Cherokee language- It would have been pronounced CWY (Chah lah gee) Not sure haw they got Cherokee from that *shrug

[librarylu]

27. According to some Eastern Band members and traditional storytellers...

... the name is something that was tacked on them, probably by the Creeks. It meant "people of the fire" or "people who live in lodges". Their names for themselves include Tsalagi (GWY) "down by the river" (where they lived) and Anikituhwa "belonging to Kituhwa" (the principal village).

The storytellers say the people didn't hide in Snowbird - they fought.

[MysticLynx]

30. Right

spelling (Tsalagi) nice, but it is the C looking one the G is Gwa C is Tsa

Good Site for info on languages of Indigenous peoples

http://www.native-languages.org/cherokee.htm

[librarylu]

33. Is it different in Oklahoma?

I work in Cherokee, NC, and around here it's GWY and Tsalagi. It's that way on everything from walking sticks to street signs.

I work on Tsalagi Rd. The accent is on the last syllable. I pronounced it incorrectly for five years!

[Warpy]

29. Thanks for the correction

Always willing to learn. I was misinformed by someone who grew up Cherokee in OK.

[MysticLynx]

32. Western

Nation and Eastern Nation, though both CWY there are language differences- and traditions etc vary. I am Eastern Band, was 'told' by some people I met from the Ok Cwy Nation a few years back that the dialect I speak is 'outdated' = old Eastern Style Dialect. I guess it would be the equivalent of low German and high German. One is apparently no longer in use.

[Xipe Totec]

3. I am not Cherokee, that I know of...

But I am definitely part Otomi, Tarahumaran, and Tlaxcalan indian.

I am also part Celtic, and Iberian, and Semitic.

My family has roots in Mexico going back 500 years.

I feel Mexican.

I feel American.

I feel Human.

I look White.

I am a member of the Human Race.

[Cha]

12. ..

[MercutioATC]

4. Like this:

[meow2u3]

20. Elizabeth Warren should drive one of these over Scott Brown--politically, that is

[avebury]

5. My Dad's mother was 1/8th Cherokee and you

would not have known it if you met her. I didn't know about it until long after she passed away because she never talked about it. I think that it is cool because I look upon it as part of my heritage.

There are a lot of people that could have one or more ancestors that belonged to an Indian Tribe. This does not mean that they all claim to be a member of whatever tribe is relevant to their family. You can still appreciate your heritage whether it be Native American, African, Asian, European, or whatever melting pot mixture relevant to your family.

[progressoid]

9. My Dad is 1/8th Sioux

Can't really tell. But his father showed it a little more.

[krispos42]

6. Me.

I'm one-eighth.

[niyad]

8. was wondering why I was thinking about the raiders "indian reservation" the other day.

[RebelOne]

31. Love that song. n/t

[DrewFlorida]

10. I am 1/4 Cherokee, from father's dad.

Although because my dad was orphaned at an early age, we have never had absolute proof of it. We traced our roots to Oklahoma where 1400 people share our last name. I haven't had time to research any further, and I'm not sure how to go about finding out for sure. But just the same, I consider myself part Cherokee!

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. It would take going over county records

you can go back where you think you are from, and the County employees are usually helpful and can point you in the right direction, sometimes the right file box.

If I were in OK I'd offer to help.

[FirstLight]

11. I was thinking of applying for citizenship

I am 1/16 and found my great-grandfather on the Dawes Rolls, traced the previous generations back to the Rev. War...and it looks like at that time either one or both changed names to Anglo and my GGGrandfather fought in the war for land...but I would have to go back to Georgia/NC to scour for county records that far back...

I don't see it as something I would claim to "use" for benefits... I see it a something to be proud of. I see it as acknowledging my family heritage and honoring my ancestors... my grandmother had the most beautiful high cheekbones and coal black hair.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Go for it

I know I am Jewish, and I cherish my traditions... it is important to cherish and preserve traditions.

I will be over here, going GO FOR IT!

(And yes it would be work)

[ashling]

13. To Scott Brown?

Its easy to see how Scott Brown got mixed up since he thinks all Indians look like this:


Because he is a

RACIST PIG !

[Capt. Obvious]

14. And as you can see, my opponent isn't wearing a headdress and face paint

[HiPointDem]

15. There's no hard evidence that warren is a cherokee descendant, though.

and if the family lore is true, it's 1/32th max: great-great-great-grandmother.

http://bostonherald.com/news/politics/view/20220515genealogical_society_no_proof_of_warrens_cherokee_heritage_found

[bluestate10]

16. Warren just repeated something told to her and her family when she was a girl

growing up in Oklahoma. As to Brown's claim that Warren profited from claiming that she was a minority, it has been refuted by every one that interviewed Warren for academic positions.

Sorry, but you seem to often put out right-wing talking points, against President Obama often and now Elizabeth Warren. Do you know anything at all about the Boston Herald and the behavior of that paper toward the values that you claim to have? The Herald is a Ruppert Murdock rag that is constantly assailing democratic causes.

[HiPointDem]

17. it's a right-wing talking point that there's no hard evidence warren is cherokee? i thought it was

a simple statement of fact.

do you know anything about the new england historical genealogical society? it has nothing to do with rupert murdoch.

http://www.americanancestors.org/NEHGS-Statement-On-Elizabeth-Warren-Ancestry/

warren isn't a member of any of the 3 federally recognized cherokee tribes & her great-great-great grandmother, thus far, hasn't turned up on any tribal rolls. And I didn't say a word about harvard or any of the other stuff you mention.

Some folks at DU seem to think that *any* failure to toe the party line on *any* matter = RW propagandist -- even down to noting the *fact* that the only evidence warren has a native ancestor is family lore.

Here's my OP on romney's fake tax returns:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021416602

Not many folks here seemed to care much, even though it appears romney paid even less than the stated 14.1%.

[Xipe Totec]

18. There is no hard evidence that I'm Irish descendant either

In fact, careful genealogical research has traced my roots, on all lines, for more than 300 years, some as far back as 500 years.

All in Mexico.

Yet, my grandfather and great grandmother are redheaded, freckled, an green-eyed. Half my cousins are redheads, and both my sons have red beards.

It's a mystery.

[HiPointDem]

19. actually there is for your ancestry, hard genealogical evidence, as you yourself said.

there's no such evidence that warren has a black ancestor, though.

[Xipe Totec]

28. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. nt

[HiPointDem]

34. just absence of hard evidence. as i said.

[Xipe Totec]

35. No argument there

So where is Elizabeth's sin in all this?

[HiPointDem]

36. where did i say there was sin? simply noting that there's no hard evidence she's got an indian

ancestor. i don't believe she ever said there was. there was no attack on warren in my post.

it's really amazing how much people read into a SIMPLE STATEMENT OF FACT.

[MysticLynx]

26. The Records

Were compiled by the D.O.D. Tribal affiliation was kept for decades by the department of interior AKA D.O.D. The Trail of Tears is not the only death march and the Cherokee were not the only tribe that suffered that fate. In my case for example my Great Grandfather is listed on the Dawes roll as a 'non-resident' Choctaw (I am CWY not Choctaw but if I wanted to be a 'documented' Amer-Indian I would have to go by the 'official' records and therefore would be considered Choctaw not Cherokee- My Great grandmother is not listed at all, though one of her sister is. However because neither of them ever claimed their 'parcel' in 'Indian territory' they are all listed as deceased so officially I do not exist Proving ancestry is difficult at best- usually it is impossible, as a 'runaway' from one of the death marches many changed their names etc and did everything they could do to hide, they certainly were not lining up to be 'recognized' by the D.O.D as in those days if they even suspected you had even one drop of AmerIndian blood, your children could be taken from you (without cause) you could not own land or even rent a place to live, if you went to the hospital you could end up leaving there having been 'sterilized' against your will, not to mention the toxic 'immunizations' etc the list of genocidal tactics used is almost endlessly and most did everything they could to hide who they were.

[DisabledAmerican]

21. Does it matter?

My Spurlock Family tree has so called Indian blood in it. Some how one of our ancestor got it on with a Powhatan Indian Princess named Elizabeth. If you want to see how easy it is to have Indian blood and not be noticed look at the Spurlock family tree. My family tree is so cool in this check it out.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/r/u/t/Jim-T-Rutherford-TX/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0171.html

I do not look like a Indian but hey I have royal Indian blood in me of the Powhatan tribe.

[rustydog]

22. My two sister-in-laws are cherokee

My two step daughters are part Pawnee. one looks "Indian".