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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:21 AM

DemUnleashed (202 posts)

My 15 year old asked me my thoughts on Trump's COVID diagnosis

Just now before my son left for school, he came over to me and said "Mom, I know you hate Trump but you don't want him to die because he got COVID, do you?"

Now how the hell am I supposed to answer that?? I didn't want to send the message to my kid that human life doesn't matter and that you should never wish harm on anyone and I would be a horrible human being if I was fine with someone dying and on and on with those types of thoughts

So I just said "No, I don't want him to die" and I left off the part that I don't want him to die because I want him to suffer with the damage that COVID can do to you if you survive, that I want him to see Biden win, that I want him to see Republicans down the ballot losing big time, that I want to see him prosecuted and go to jail, that I want him to see his family go to jail

How horrible of a mom would he think he had if I had said all those things, so I didn't!

I'm curious....how do you suggest I should have answered his question? Have any of you been in a similar predicament?

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My 15 year old asked me my thoughts on Trump's COVID diagnosis (Original post)	DemUnleashed	Oct 2020	OP
I don't want him dead, I just want him	Rice4VP	Oct 2020	#1
I didn't have that problem with my 24-year old son	PJMcK	Oct 2020	#2
"I don't want him to die from covid. I want him to die from old age in prison."	panader0	Oct 2020	#3
Sleeping on a concrete floor, eating moldy bread, drinking from a toilet.	lagomorph777	Oct 2020	#7
This might help	JHB	Oct 2020	#4
+1 n/t	Silent3	Oct 2020	#13
Here's an earlier post by brewens you might want to consider...	Hugin	Oct 2020	#5
NanceGreggs' words represent a lot of us....	Lars39	Oct 2020	#6
One of my youngest nieces will be that age in 4 months	BumRushDaShow	Oct 2020	#8
My 15 year old son and I talk about MF45 a lot.	MontanaMama	Oct 2020	#9
If he dies, I will solemnly lower a bottle of champagne to half-empty.	tanyev	Oct 2020	#10
Here's a toast to that moment. Clink	ananda	Oct 2020	#11
I have a bottle too!	Cbus Girl	Oct 2020	#17
Welcome to DU!	tanyev	Oct 2020	#19
"It's not up to me or you, Son."	gratuitous	Oct 2020	#12
I've told my adult children I want him to live long enough to be humiliated in the election,	ooky	Oct 2020	#14
You could say, "I try not to."	tblue37	Oct 2020	#15
Mr. Trump has made other suffer, so he should suffer 210,000 fold.	sarcasmo	Oct 2020	#16
You answered correctly. But I would be curious about why he asked	ecstatic	Oct 2020	#18
Thank you	DemUnleashed	Oct 2020	#20

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:22 AM

Rice4VP (1,168 posts)

1. I don't want him dead, I just want him

voted out, broke, and in prison.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:22 AM

PJMcK (14,617 posts)

2. I didn't have that problem with my 24-year old son

He hates Trump more than I do!

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:25 AM

panader0 (21,813 posts)

3. "I don't want him to die from covid. I want him to die from old age in prison."

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:30 AM

lagomorph777 (19,728 posts)

7. Sleeping on a concrete floor, eating moldy bread, drinking from a toilet.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:28 AM

JHB (32,491 posts)

4. This might help

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:17 AM

Silent3 (10,397 posts)

13. +1 n/t

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:28 AM

Hugin (27,420 posts)

5. Here's an earlier post by brewens you might want to consider...

It has since become my way of looking at the situation.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14206504

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:29 AM

Lars39 (23,841 posts)

6. NanceGreggs' words represent a lot of us....

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214225153

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:34 AM

BumRushDaShow (74,232 posts)

8. One of my youngest nieces will be that age in 4 months

They aren't stupid. She and most of her friends cried (literally - I was really surprised) when Hillary lost, and they were 11/12 at the time. I won't even detail how they feel about what is going on now. However my niece is also a little empath. She can't help it. She absorbs and internalizes all the pain that her friends may experience due to others who bully them. So it's a matter of how that child reacts to analogous situations and amazingly enough, that trait starts when they are little.

It will take years of "life" for them to understand the nuances of the complexities of the concept, but it also goes back to whether they are "hard-wired" for empathy or not. You can teach it and preach it but if their brain has no reaction to inflicting "pain" on others, whether physically or psychologically, there is not much you can do but try to guide them into another perspective.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 08:40 AM

MontanaMama (16,158 posts)

9. My 15 year old son and I talk about MF45 a lot.

The kiddo is well aware of my feelings about what a terrible person the pResident Our conversations center around telling the truth about what we see happening and doing the right thing even when you see so many others doing and saying things that hurt others. We talk about being patient and kind and sometimes we get righteously mad over our current circumstances with Covid and how it has caused such havoc in our lives with work and school. Specifically, when it comes to MF45’s Covid diagnosis, our conversations have been about consequences for our actions. tRump took risks and didn’t listen to science and he got sick. He may have gotten sick enough to die...time will tell. As my kiddo said...”tRump bought the ticket, now he’s got to take the ride.”

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:11 AM

tanyev (33,358 posts)

10. If he dies, I will solemnly lower a bottle of champagne to half-empty.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:13 AM

ananda (23,336 posts)

11. Here's a toast to that moment. Clink

!!!

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:31 AM

Cbus Girl (32 posts)

17. I have a bottle too!

I told my daughter I’m drinking it when it leaves the White House walking or feet first.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 11:04 AM

tanyev (33,358 posts)

19. Welcome to DU!

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:17 AM

gratuitous (72,656 posts)

12. "It's not up to me or you, Son."

Covid is not affected one whit by my feelings or opinions. If the president's reckless, irresponsible behavior results in his death from this virus, it won't be because someone wished him ill or prayed ineffectually for his recovery.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:22 AM

ooky (5,416 posts)

14. I've told my adult children I want him to live long enough to be humiliated in the election,

arrested and go to prison, and have all the family money taken away from them. Also, all his grifter family leave America.

After that the devil can have him.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:28 AM

tblue37 (45,038 posts)

15. You could say, "I try not to."

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:28 AM

sarcasmo (20,274 posts)

16. Mr. Trump has made other suffer, so he should suffer 210,000 fold.

Tell your kid you are Old Testament.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 09:46 AM

ecstatic (28,213 posts)

18. You answered correctly. But I would be curious about why he asked

Is his teacher saying that liberals want trump to die? That would be highly inappropriate.

Anyway, I can't speak for others, but I'm with you. Once tRump is gone (which my sources indicate will be soon), we all need to detox to get all the poison out of our systems.

I've never hated or wished harm on someone, but trump has spent every day of the last 4 years taunting and emotionally abusing the entire nation, disrespecting norms, and abusing his office.

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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 12:18 PM

DemUnleashed (202 posts)

20. Thank you

Thank you for all your thoughts!

I think when he comes home, I will bring the topic up and I will say "Look, like I said, I don't want him to die but I do want him to have to pay the price for all the wrongs he has done. So on top of losing this election, I want to see him prosecuted and go to jail!" I will leave out the part of me wanting to see him suffer with COVID damages for the rest of his life

As far as I know, I don't think his teachers or anyone at school brought this up to make him think to ask me that question. I'll ask him about that though when he comes home. I thought he just brought it up because he knows how much I hate Trump and maybe he wanted to find out if I hated him enough to actually wish death on a fellow human being

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