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Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:31 PM

Is anyone else nervous about tonight?

I know I am.
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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:32 PM

1. Not at all. What are you nervous about?

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:40 PM

14. My only concern

is that Pence sort of "cleans up" Trump's mess left by the last debate and/or helps normalize Trump and some of his policies. Pence is dull and sort of dumb but he cleans up well and won't be showing up spouting a bunch of conspiracy theories or talking over and interrupting Kamala. The main problem for him, I suppose, is that he will be put in a position of having to either defend Trump or repudiate him, which has got to be an unenviable place to be. My guess is that this debate will neither help or hurt either candidate much or really move anything. I have full confidence in Kamala to present herself well.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:32 PM

2. No...Kamala will make mincemeat out of Pence.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:33 PM

3. No.

She’s going to prosecute Pence.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:33 PM

4. Don't be. Kamala will shine like the Sun and Pence will drizzle like rain.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:35 PM

5. Not in the slightest. n/t

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:35 PM

6. Pence is worried. I'm not.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:35 PM

7. Not in the least.

Kamala will stomp him good.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:36 PM

8. HELL NO

She will chew him up, and spit him out!!

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:36 PM

9. I am nervous she will get exposed to Covid

And I am furious that they are doing this in person.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:50 PM

25. This. The debate itself will be fine.

Harris can run circles around Pence intellectually, but I just don't understand why this is being held in person. It's irresponsible and stupid.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:00 PM

26. Yeah, this

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #9)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:06 PM

38. EXACTLY. And I think Pence was trying to get her to not show so he wouldnt have to face her..That

is why he has been so reckless about safety concerns. He hoped she would bail out. There was no reason they couldnt have just set up a remote debate for their safety...

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:37 PM

10. Why exactly would you be nervous?

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:38 PM

11. Pence is a good debater, but look at the material he has to work from

So, no. This is not a do or die for Biden/Harris.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:39 PM

12. No matter what Harris will win and Pence will say he did.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:39 PM

13. I'm nervous because there are such high expectations for Kamala.

Honestly, the bar is so low for Pence, that if he doesn't curl up in a ball on the floor, people will say that he held his own. And on our side, they have been playing clips of her Senatorial committee questioning all day, so if she doesn't out-perform those moments, it will be anticlimactic.

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Response to unitedwethrive (Reply #13)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:41 PM

18. This will be the day

when Mike Pence becomes "Vice-Presidential"?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:03 PM

32. Dynamic, he.

Pence is the very definition of charismatic.

Not.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:40 PM

15. Nope

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:40 PM

16. Not sure. Today, Joy Behar said that Harris can't look too smart

or come across as way smarter than pence or that will lead to pushback.

As a woman you can't be too smart, but you can't be dumb either... so which is it?

I'm sick of the double standards!

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:40 PM

17. Well.........

I'm usually anxious all the time.
I'm wondering what Pence will pull out of his ass.
I do know that Harris can think on her feet very well and I hope that she has some surprises for her opponent.
I don't want her on the defense, I want her on the offense.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:41 PM

19. nope

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:42 PM

20. Pence could be as big an asshole as Trump was in the first debate

He has nothing to lose.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:42 PM

21. I am not going to say anything in reply, I don't want to get in trouble. n/t

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:42 PM

22. The high expectations dynamic isn't great but Kamala will do fine

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:42 PM

23. No

Kamala is the best possible person to debate Pence.

She will come out smelling like a rose, Pence will
leave smelling like a .......... fill in the blank with
your favorite stink.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 05:45 PM

24. I am, but only because that's the way I am--she'll kick his ass

Pence will have to defend the indefensible, and she's a prosecutor, so....

But yeah, I'm nervous, just because I'm always nervous about debates.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:01 PM

27. Pence will try to defend the indefensible.

It is uphill all the way for him.

He's cooked.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:01 PM

28. no

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:01 PM

29. No, not at all.

I think that Senator Harris is debating VP Pence tonight. No reason to be nervous about that.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:02 PM

30. No. The VP debate rarely, if ever, matters.

I was way more nervous for the first debate.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:03 PM

31. Just her safety...and the safety of her team and their families...

The debate itself? Not a bit

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:04 PM

33. nope

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:04 PM

34. No. Because no matter what is said it will reinforce what a real debate should sound like.

And further make it apparent that Trump is a psychopath. Joe tried, but trump went crazy.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:05 PM

35. debates



I never watch a debate. We go to bed really early and I usually watch a british mystery (Midsomer Murders) and then at 9:30 I flip over to Daily Kos and watch some of the debate highlights. I usually fall asleep about half hour later. It doesn't make any difference, we've already voted by mail for Biden/Harris anyway.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:05 PM

36. Not even the slightest.

My only nervousness is that Pence may get sympathy from the whoop ass he's about to get.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:06 PM

37. Well, I'm a Democrat and anxiety is my default state.

But, seriously, no. Harris is really good on TV -- very sharp, very quick. Pence is also pretty good -- because he's an ex-radio talk show host who thinks nothing of lying. But, at worst, this will be a draw. At best, Harris will win going away.
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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:07 PM

39. She can hold her own for 90 minutes.

Then the fact checkers will go after Pence.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:09 PM

40. I am still gonna drink...nt

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:10 PM

41. Hit and run... so predictable. (n/t)

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:12 PM

42. No, not at all.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:12 PM

43. Nope

Can't be worse than Donnie's shit show the other night. Kamala Harris can handle that twinkie Pence.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:14 PM

44. No, I think Kamala will do a wonderful job. She's smart, articulate and tough.

She will stand up to Pence quite well.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:26 PM

45. Yes. Everyone thought Kaine would take Pence apart, but...

...Mikey has the talk show host’s ability to come across as calm and reasonable, even when saying the most outrageous things. Kaine tried to go on the offense against him and just came off looking “mean” and “unlikable.” Harris will have to tread a very narrow path to avoid coming off as “overly aggressive and angry” on one hand, and letting him control the debate on the other.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:43 PM

49. That was 4 years and more ago.

He knows the deal he made with the devil. 4 years of hedging the truth, outright lying, being part of policy that defies basic scriptural ideals, like caging children, have had some effect.

His moral authority isn’t what he thinks it is anymore.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #45)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:56 PM

56. Yes, that's what I keep thinking about.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:27 PM

46. Kamala has got this

I'm not worried.
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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:39 PM

47. Nah.

Wonder what Pence’s blood pressure is 90 minutes before the debate?

These idiots have screwed the pooch so badly over the last 7 days that even he knows prayer won’t save him. If anything he should be getting the picture that the “big guy” is a bit pissed at his boys. After all, it’s these evangelicals who are always blaming “gods wrath” on America via hurricanes, earthquakes, tornadoes, terrorists, or whatever, because of gays & shit.

He’s having problems with the basic premise that he has to treat a woman as an equal for 90 minutes tonight. I guarantee you he cannot do it. It’s sticking in his craw even now. See he may have started out believing that he was doing higher good to get the courts, the laws, etc. but he’s been knee deep in trumps world now for almost 4 years. He has no honor to fall back on anymore, no real spiritual capital at all; he’s been compromising decency since day one. He’s thoroughly fouled, and I predict he is going to make a grievous error that reveals his inner intolerance, and he’ll even try to double down on it before it dawns on him exactly what it is he’s saying. He’s seen his boss do it hundreds of times.

Tonight you’re going to get to watch Mike Pence die inside on national television.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:40 PM

48. Only worried about disease or lightning from Pence side of the room.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:44 PM

50. Yes, but I'm a nervous person

I'm more worried about her being exposed to COVID

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:44 PM

51. Only about Dense Pence infecting everyone, including Kamala.

Because, you KNOW he's a spreader. Otherwise, I look forward to Sen. Harris wiping the floor with Pence.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:45 PM

52. I thought Pence came across well in 2016

in the debate with Kaine: he's a smooth talker, doesn't get flustered, and acts like he knows what he's talking about. He has the ability to say anything about anything and make himself look sincere.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:51 PM

53. I wish Kamala would show up in a full hazmat suit.. other than that, she's fine.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:53 PM

54. I have never held much anticipation of this debate

 

I think it will be a high quality draw. Pence has the type of unflappable style that works very well in debate setting.

If Susan Rice had been out there I would have anticipated this for months. She is extra special and would have framed the state of the race and nation in Hillary style and caliber.

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Response to leftofthestorm (Original post)

Wed Oct 7, 2020, 06:54 PM

55. What hurt Kamala in the primary is that she went hard after Biden.

Like I have said with regards to Trump, you can't go hard after Biden. You can certainly criticize his policy decisions, but Joe is super likeable and a good person. Kamala did, in my opinion, a good job with her arguments, but when she implied Biden's blind spots on race, they didn't land like people thought they might.

Pence is a different beast altogether. He is either a lapdog, or part of the problem. Either way, his wannabe folksy Indiana schtick is not going to save him. He is the vice president to a monster and Kamala will tie Trump around his neck.

The only concern I have is for Kamala's health being around the likely COVID carrying asshat.

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