Trump Collapsing In Internal GOP Polls

[babylonsister]

womp womp

https://politicalwire.com/2020/10/09/trump-collapsing-in-internal-gop-polls/

Trump Collapsing In Internal GOP Polls
October 9, 2020 at 7:52 am EDT By Taegan Goddard

New York Times: “New polls show Mr. Trump’s support is collapsing nationally, as he alienates women, seniors and suburbanites. He is trailing not just in must-win battlegrounds but according to private G.O.P. surveys, he is repelling independents to the point where Mr. Biden has drawn closer in solidly red states, including Montana, Kansas and Missouri, people briefed on the data said.”

[Mike 03]

1. All hands on deck.

It's our time to get rid of this piece of shit.

[RobertDevereaux]

8. And to signal the death of the GOP everywhere on the ballot.

[Nitram]

48. The GOP will never die. It may crawl under a rock for a while to lick its wounds, but to will

return from the grave to meet the demand of the permanently conservative streak in America's DNA.

[LymphocyteLover]

57. nor will the media ever truly let them die

but they likely will be a rump minority powerless party for a while, although their impacts on the courts will screw us for a while

[llashram]

60. the american media, ALL, are partly responsible

for the chaos, threats and killing from the RW brownshirts of trump. Since the white riot in Charlottesville, they have coddled the POS calling himself potus even with the infamous, "fine people on both sides. The bothsiderism has caused a lot of grief. Trying to keep the American fantasy of it being the bright shining city on a hill from becoming what it has become, a dung heap laughed at by the world. When he was in his campaign he gave the media all the red flags it needed to know as to what type of human being he is, yet they coddled him and his grifting family. Would not give wide coverage to his lack of character and integrity. Would not give wide coverage to the millions made by Ivanka and Jarad off the brand of White House 'advisor'(s). Just the horserace. And these three among many Hannity, Scarborough and Mika, yeah yeah I know those two FINALLY see trump for what he is, stand out.

The hypocrisy and enabling of our media gave us this aberration that is posing as a POTUS that has him now wishing for his dictatorship. His brownshirts are chomping at the bit to be let loose on the Govenor Whitmers of this country and us citizens who are like her. They do want to kill us who are unafraid of these dangerous people and their FUHRER. They seem to fail to realize they can also fall with the proper. inducement.

[BComplex]

62. I recommend this post!

So true!

[LymphocyteLover]

65. Absolutely-- I'm so disgusted by the media in the trump era

the way they have normalized this monster is sickening and has led to disastrous consequences for the country. They need to be shamed big time once we get these traitors and psychopaths out of power.

[llashram]

74. democracy loving patriots

and then treasonous fascists ...It feels rather dystopian to me

[LymphocyteLover]

78. the last 4 years have been dystopian AS FUCK

that changes in 2021.

[Nitram]

92. No, the numerous American people with a deep conservative bent bear the blame. The media just

report on the reality of society (bearing in mind that the right wing media are not journalists - they are propagandists for fascism). It is about time we accepted the FACT that there is a significant proportion of the American electorate that has always leaned towards authoritarianism and fascism. Numerous authors, political scientists, politicians, and critics have warned us of that since the 1930s. It has always been easy to turn the working class against immigrant and liberals during economic downturns.The media don't cause that, or aid and abett it, they report on it. My ultra conservative parents blamed the media for everything they didn't like - because they thought the media was too liberal. Of course, they excepted the right wing media that they got all their information from Fox News, to Rush Limbaugh, to The National Review. During Trump's 2016 campaign they reported every lie, every distortion, and every un-Ameriacn tendency. Trump supporters don't read newspapers, the New republic, or listen to NPR.

[Illumination]

70. The GOP IS DYING! So is it's weak, sick & frail unelected fake "pres". There's very interest in

their lying, & corruption. They also aren't keeping up with the times & needs of the American people! Change will come. They can be replaced...

[Major Nikon]

88. The GOP will die. It's just a matter of time

Texas will inevitably go blue and when it does the GOP will be dead as a national party. Changing demographics will insure they never will control Congress or the Presidency. Once that happens the money will dry up. State legislatures will fall like dominos, and the gerrymandering will be reversed. Eventually they will rise from the ashes as a minority opposition party after they have reinvented themselves, but they will have to move a lot farther left.

[brush]

26. Yes, we should all be angry that this inept a-hole let this virus devastate...

our nation for months, and now a second wave is coming to cause more deaths.

Let's get him out and I hope NY state jails his sorry ass.

[MyOwnPeace]

33. ALONG with his enablers

Moscow Mitch and the Senate RepubliCons!!

[brush]

41. Yes, all the enablers had their chance to get him out in the impeachment...

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trial but declined to call witnesses to testify to his crimes.

They have to go too. New Zealand, Vietnam of all places, conquered covid months ago and here we are, starting all over again.

[LiberalLovinLug]

75. Monumentally politically stupid not to impeach

If they had dumped Drumpf when they had a chance, they could have ran someone like Mitt who would have given Biden a run for his money

[brush]

76. Right. That thought almost makes you think, thank God for their enabling stupidty.

Almost.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Trump collapses...due to COVID...

That would make headlines. Collapsing in the polls, that is a good sign for Joe Biden.

[malaise]

6. He will lose big time because of Covid

Take that to the bank

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. No. Covid is the kid saying loudly enough "The Emperor has no clothes". He did himself in. . . . nt

[moose65]

55. That is the best analogy for the entire Trump presidency

From the moment that he and Melania visited the Obamas two days after the election, The Emperor's New Clothes was all I could think of to describe Trump's presidency. That day, he seemed shellshocked, and he didn't know what to do with himself. When he's not surrounded by hordes of deplorables cheering him on, he is unable to function.

Whenever I saw the Orange Clown at some serious event where he had to follow protocol, I thought of the Emperor. When I saw him trying to interact with leaders of other countries, I thought of the Emperor. Everyone around Trump who tried to normalize him, I could see them as the people pretending to cut and sew cloth to make the Emperor's clothes.

It's way past time for the kid to scream "But he doesn't have any clothes on!!!"

[wnylib]

69. He's bare nekkid! And what a painful sight to see.

[moose65]

71. You can say that again!

Ewwwwwww. I need some brain bleach now (not the Covid kind).

[Laelth]

3. This isn't exactly shocking, but it is good news. k&r n/t

-Laelth

[helpisontheway]

4. Hope it continues the rest of the month. Good thing people

are voting now. I just hope he is not able to draw a lot of Election Day voters like he did last time.

[The_Counsel]

38. Agreed. I Never Understood Why There So Many Undecideds So Late in the Game in '16.

Especially with the choice appearing so clear.

Or maybe it wasn't so clear, what with both Clinton AND Trump being under water in terms of likability/approval.

This time, it's the exact opposite of what Trump wants us to believe: The only way he wins is if this thing is rigged for that outcome.

[PTWB]

64. HRC would have made an amazing President.

Unfortunately she was not an ideal candidate because after 30 years of baseless manufactured right wing smears her image was tarnished. Right wing media is responsible for much of what is wrong in the country today.

Trump is a monster that they created and now that very monster is tearing their party apart.

The core GOP are at a crossroads: do they denounce Trump and alienate his die-hard MAGAT base to attempt to salvage their image in the eyes independents and centrists they need to beat Democrats? Or do they stay on the sinking Trump ship and go down with the captain?

[The_Counsel]

66. I'll Say This: The Last Four Years Wouldn't Have Been the Hell It's Been...

...with President Hillary Clinton in charge.

We would have had a different set of problems, yes, but THIS madness? No.

[634-5789]

5. 350 EVs will send the message.

If you see 350-380 EVs following the election, the party will safely be over for Tubby McTraitor and his criminal cabal.

[Thunderbeast]

49. I dream of 418

Florida, Texas, Georgia, Ohio, Iowa....

[beachbumbob]

7. the next play is making the SC hearings into a sympathy fest for Barrett and democrats best avoid

the trap


ONLY hope for GOP to gain back SOME female voters

[exboyfil]

13. Best change is to make the public understand

the implications of her pending decisions. The $100B/yr. for healthcare is going to have to come from somewhere when the ACA is ruled unconstitutional and the high earners get to opt out after the cap for Medicare withholdings.

[beachbumbob]

15. ya, but thats not the trap that is being laid for the democrats, GOP NEED democrats to

vilify her and make her a "a victim"

[not_the_one]

43. Democrats need to make sure every female voter realizes that she is perfectly happy

to shut up when she is told to by a man, to be subservient to them, and willing to have a second class citizenship, allowing men to make decisions for her about her own body.

Because she IS christian. (And she either believes it, or she is the usual, run of the mill hypocrite.) AND she is a christian who is perfectly happy to "bring on the end times".

She is FAR RIGHT FRINGE.

[lagomorph777]

56. Yes, let's just meekly accept our fate.

Please. She is a menace to this nation. She has been chosen to end the ACA, end choice, and end our democracy.

It would be immoral and insane to just give her a pass.

[stopwastingmymoney]

84. There's no cap for Medicare, fyi

The ACA has extra medicare over 200k, I suppose that will end if they have their way

[Mariana]

53. They're going to pretend she's being persecuted for her Christianity.

Pence brought up that angle during the debate. I'm sure we'll hear it again.

[summer_in_TX]

83. I already did, tonight from John Cornyn.

Tonight was the Texas debate between US Senator John Cornyn and M.J. Hegar. It was amazing. We will be so lucky to have a no-nonsense woman of her courage, quick wit, and mind like a steel trap. What a force!

[cilla4progress]

9. Looking forward to the help this gives Dems

down-ballot!!!

[bucolic_frolic]

10. What I expect from Joe

is Obama-esque pedal to the metal warp drive. Obviously, at this point, Biden has some of the shrewdest and more experienced election personnel of the last 50 years. If Dems can build with the wave it will make a tidal wave into a tsunami with bone-crushing consequences for the GOP. Not saying it's a given, depends on circumstances, but I will say I'm optimistically cautious. This is an extension of out 2018 results that was supposed to be a mere House capture but steadily built as results trickled in over the next weeks. We won what? 14 of those late-count races? Out of 14?

Give me a home where the buffalo roam but give me a trend that is steadily rising in an election where there are few undecideds. It means the message, logic, issues, strategy is hitting the motherlode. Democrats, thank you Tom Perez, have built political infrastructure.

[Newest Reality]

11. Our collective strategy?

Our collective strategy in order to overthrow this insane dictator is?

A MASSIVE blue wave!!!

VOTE LIKE EVERYTHING DEPENDS ON IT. IT REALLY DOES!

Get people out to vote!

[exboyfil]

12. Let's hope down ticket is shackled to a corpse

And given his potential behavior after the election, let's make sure the public remembers his facilitators in 2022.

[uponit7771]

14. kGOP reply:"... cheat more !!!! "

[boyedav1969]

16. Quick, throw him an anchor or two, or a hundred

Quick, throw him an anchor or two, or a hundred. Let's hope the entire GOP feels it.

[niyad]

17. "trump collapsing" had my heart leaping. . Then I saw the rest. Sighhhhhh.

One can hope!

[catbyte]

19. My fantasy for this election? The biggest landslide since 1936, lol.

FDR: 523 EV
Alf Landon: 8 EV

Okay, okay. How about 1972?

Nixon: 520
McGovern: 13

I know, I know. It'll be much, much closer but a gal can dream, can't she?

[Wounded Bear]

45. I'd settle for 400 EV or so...

[lastlib]

47. I'm dreamin' right along with ya!

I'd love to see Biden go over 400 EV's, but I will take ANYTHING over 270! I just want the bast--d out!

Realistically at this point 350-390 is possible. If AnusMouth continues to make an ass of himself, over 400 can happen!

[Le Roi de Pot]

20. Not womp womp

weer weer weer weer ....... wok wok



Voters eating Trumpman up

[BlueWavePsych]

21. Take nothing for granted. GOTV

Meanwhile, enjoy the moment (news) ...

[ResistantAmerican17]

22. Stomp the gas and keep driving them into the abyss.

[dlk]

23. Trump is collapsing physically, as well

He is disintegrating as Americans watch in horror.

[lindysalsagal]

24. and hopefully this will bring on more gop defections and retirements

They're all huge money guys: If it can't be made in politics, it's available elsewhere.

[mdbl]

25. I guess the are realizing he just can't become presidential

like they said would happen after they elected the moron in 2016.

[BumRushDaShow]

27. There are STILL "pundits"

who keep bemoaning - "Well this could have been his 'defining moment' since he contracted the virus"... "Well maybe he coulda woulda shoulda.... ".

[mdbl]

31. I think it's too nice to call them pundits, more like propagandists

they are also good at the "what abouts"

[BumRushDaShow]

42. Well they do often amplify the "propaganda"

although I call them "pundits" as their occupation - at least those who don't necessarily "work for" or "get paid by" by the originators of the "propaganda".

To me, the "propagandists" are the Kellyanne Conways and the Kayleigh McEenanys and the Jason Millers and every RW talk host, who appear in various communications formats to spew abject bullshit.

I never thought I'd miss the now-"tame" nonsense that Spicey would utter.

[Fiendish Thingy]

28. 400+ Electoral Votes!!! Sometimes dreams do come true! Nt

[Cognitive_Resonance]

29. Wipe them out. nt

[SlogginThroughIt]

30. I would settle for him just collapsing.

[honest.abe]

32. I dont see any way Trump campaign turns this around by Nov 3.

In fact its more likely to get worse. Trump is getting crazier and more desperate by the day and he is losing his influence among GOP congressmen and his cabinet who are seeing him as a loser and a liability. Many Republican and Independent voters are becoming more and more convinced he is liar and lunatic. Democrats are energized around Biden/Harris and fired up about sending Trump packing on Nov 3.

Its going to be a wipeout of historic proportions.

[OregonBlue]

34. Emerson College poll for Montana Oct. 5-7 says the opposite:

https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2020/10/08/montana-elections-2020-republicans-lead-some-top-races-emerson-poll/5923732002/

very bad news for Dems.

[grantcart]

40. NYT last poll shows Senate race tied

[OregonBlue]

44. Hope NYT is right. The Emerson poll is a good one but it was only 500 LV.

[grantcart]

52. I suspect Emerson is correct. The internal polls are the best and

If we were close Dems would be spending more, like Alaska where all of a sudden we are buying more ads there.

[H2O Man]

35. Recommended.

Gosh, the president better keep doing more of what he is doing.

[grantcart]

37. We are going to have to give him the "2020 most valuable asset award"

We could not have taken Texas without his contribution.

[grantcart]

36. 2 TX polls show him leading there today.

[TheRickles]

46. Which "him"? n/t

[grantcart]

51. Biden

[TheRickles]

54. Thanks. More good news!

[IronLionZion]

39. Great! Hope he collapses their whole party

and take down the Senate and House and downticket GOP races too. We need more Dems in office everywhere.

[Yavin4]

50. The vast majority of Americans realize that in order to get life back to normal we have to overcome

this virus. In order to do that, we have to get rid of Trump.

[cayugafalls]

58. Time to get busy. We need a landslide, blue tsunami.

Pummel trumplicans like a cheap punching bag.

We will win and he will go to prison.

We must win.

[ThoughtCriminal]

59. The picture's pretty bleak, gentlemen...

I posted this late last night



https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181414130

[StClone]

81. Good Republican model of extinction

I remember that cartoon from back when. It was published pre-Chicxulub meteor extinction event theory acceptance.

[Grins]

61. Maybe, it's their message...?

Call it a hunch.

[DeminPennswoods]

63. Trump catching SARS2, being treated with the care

unavailable to nearly anyone else, then completely disregarding the heatlh and safety of everyone around him has shown what a careless, callous and self-centered person he truly is. Outside the committed cultists, the rest of Americans can see that clearly.

[rocktivity]

67. Makes perfect sense to me -- he's awakened the actual silent majority

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the 63% who didn't vote at all in 2016:



Romney made the same mistake -- alienating independent voters by, uh, refusing to show his taxes.



Unless Trump really is a stable genius and has decided that if he can't leave a winner, he'll loot the treasury on the way out.


rocktivity

[Larissa]

68. Please people

VOTE!

[kimbutgar]

72. Listening to MSNBC today you'd think the race is a dead heat

I wasn’t watching but my hubby had it on in another room and overhead them saying the Susan B Anthony group is going around door to door to say vote for MF45 because he will save the unborn. So a bunch of cells is more important than losing ones health care, social security, Medicare, Civil rights or their house and community to a terrible storm Is less important? These people are friggin insane.

And don’t get me started on watching the Daily show last night with Jordan Klemperer talking with his mentally ill supporters.

[Pacifist Patriot]

73. Why don't they just say "alienates reasonable human beings?"

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But a girl can dream.

[warmfeet]

77. Losers gotta lose.

This one has a life time of experience.

[James4Biden]

79. Covid is going to take this guy down. Could he have responded any more crazy than he has?

Pennsylvania
More Voters Trust Biden on Covid
Tuesday, Oct. 6, 2020
Challenger pulls into double-digit lead over Trump

West Long Branch, NJ – Joe Biden holds a 12-point lead over Donald Trump among all registered voters in Pennsylvania and anywhere from an 8-point to 11-point lead among likely voters, according to the Monmouth (“Mon-muth”) University Poll. This marks an improvement from Biden’s single-digit lead in a Monmouth poll just over one month ago. More voters trust the challenger than the incumbent on key issues, such as handling the pandemic. The poll does not find much shift in opinion since the president’s own Covid-19 diagnosis. Other findings show a Democratic advantage in a trio of statewide office races and a tight margin in the generic party preference for Congress.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_pa_100620/

[StClone]

82. Yes he could, they are pushing Iran to an altercation

Sanctions are killing innocent people in Iran who were formerly pro-American and now are being denied, medicine, food, supplies. No matter what Iran leaders do to appease Trump he will keep squeezing them. Venezuela, N. Korea and Syria may all now be bullied so to provoke some confrontation so to produce a WAR PRESIDENT. This could get ugly as this cornered Trump rat lashes out. If you heard his rant on arresting Obama, Hillary and even Biden you can sense Trump's franticness.

[Kath2]

80. Excellent to hear!

Let us not get complacent. Everyone vote!

That said, enthusiasm for Biden - Harris is very high where I live.

[calimary]

90. My neighborhood is full of Biden/Harris signs.

Not a trump one to be found.

[sandensea]

85. Nothing illustrates rank incompetence like a disaster

It's become almost unifying in the way almost everyone can see it now.

[quakerboy]

86. Lets take Texas

and make it an early night

[Jarqui]

87. Trump will eventually find out that the only fraud going on in the election

is him

[oldsoftie]

89. We need a couple states with R governors to flip. Cant scream "Fraud!" when you're driving.

And 2-3 of the battlegrounds need to be won by large margins ON ELECTION NIGHT.
Pull that off, and trump cant kick and scream during the days after the election.

[Le Roi de Pot]

91. BREAKING NEWS

Trump is collapsing in external polls too