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Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:30 AM Oct 2020

Diane Fienstein is really beginning to bother me ..

I thinking her hug of Lindsey was a planned move ..just as her making wrong noises about filibuster when President Obama called it a relic of slavery...

What is her angle?


Is this the result of some internal squabble with Schumer that we don't know about. EVEN if she lost some power struggle - does she forget who is she supposed to be fighting for?


I can give somewhat of a pass to Andrew Yang .. though I really think he partly chose to fire those shots to soften her up for the upcoming fight for speaker's role and get a more progressive champion.


But what is Diane's Axe?

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Diane Fienstein is really beginning to bother me .. (Original Post) Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 OP
lol at the excuse for Andrew Yang who said he would consider a pardon for Trump JI7 Oct 2020 #1
She and her husband are huge investors in the defense industry. Solomon Oct 2020 #2
+1 Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #10
And ? I'm not sure what that has to do with hugging Graham, can you expand ? OnDoutside Oct 2020 #27
On some things, yes, she is poor, like domestic spying. She is good on others, but De Leon Celerity Oct 2020 #32
Just now? BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2020 #3
She certainly did Jaime Harrison no favors by hugging Graham. panader0 Oct 2020 #4
I'm having lots of trouble picturing a SENATOR KATIE PORTER behaving bullwinkle428 Oct 2020 #5
Diane doesn't have an axe. She has known graham for many years. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #6
ABCDEFG is besides the point Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #8
No she isn't. Hugging Graham is not undermining us. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #12
Yep, it is. USALiberal Oct 2020 #15
You're damn right it is. PTWB Oct 2020 #16
Aside from giving succour to that shitbag, what if Graham is a spreader ? She's supposed to be a OnDoutside Oct 2020 #28
Yes it is, it is terrible optics on multiple fronts (the no mask, no social distance for another) Celerity Oct 2020 #33
Praising and hugging the hypocritical traitor Graham PTWB Oct 2020 #14
If you support Democrats Sympthsical Oct 2020 #17
Agree. She's a pro who knows what she's doing. Hortensis Oct 2020 #20
This isn't the first time she's stepped in it. lark Oct 2020 #7
Feinstein was just reelected handily, and Hortensis Oct 2020 #25
It hasn't made a dent in repugs reputations. lark Oct 2020 #35
Back to the days when our Dems put their friendships with their Republican opponents Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #9
A hell of a lot got done in those day...and now nothing gets done. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #13
I'm not so sure. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #18
Beginning? Laelth Oct 2020 #11
Me too. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #19
There's no mechanism to remove her. Laelth Oct 2020 #21
Maybe public pressure will help her see the light. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #22
Maybe. Laelth Oct 2020 #24
If all goes well, the Dems will need to move very quickly with the legislative program they will OnDoutside Oct 2020 #30
Go back and listen to Jello Biafra talking about running against her for mayor of SF. theaocp Oct 2020 #23
I am so put off ... Silver1 Oct 2020 #26
The hug, FUCK, and hugging without wearing a mask, FUCKFUCKFUCK! Alex4Martinez Oct 2020 #29
She's fine. Xolodno Oct 2020 #31
Way too nice for a sham hearing mvd Oct 2020 #34

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
2. She and her husband are huge investors in the defense industry.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:38 AM
Oct 2020

She's conservative at heart even though she's a democrat.

Celerity

(43,268 posts)
32. On some things, yes, she is poor, like domestic spying. She is good on others, but De Leon
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:58 PM
Oct 2020

would have been far better overall.

Where she is really going to do damage is if we win back the Senate, as she will be leading 'the filibuster stays' and 'the SCOTUS must never be expanded' crowd in our Caucus. Hopefully Schumer and Biden and Harris can negate her influence, if it comes down to that. Manchin and Sinema are lost causes, so unless we flip SEVEN or more Rethug seats, just those 3 can block both, and unfortunately, there are multiple others too who will vote to block both (as it stands).

panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. She certainly did Jaime Harrison no favors by hugging Graham.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:47 AM
Oct 2020

Does she not realize that we are involved in a life and death struggle with evil?

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
5. I'm having lots of trouble picturing a SENATOR KATIE PORTER behaving
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:48 AM
Oct 2020

in any way, shape, or form similar to that under the same circumstances. In fact, she'd be more like to use that white board to beat Lindsey Graham over his stupid worthless head!

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
6. Diane doesn't have an axe. She has known graham for many years.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:54 AM
Oct 2020

Last edited Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:29 AM - Edit history (1)

I suggest you leave her alone. She is a Democrat and had done well over the years. Those whining that she must do something need to understand, barring a miracle, there is no way to stop Barratt. That ship sailed in November of 16. When the ' but her emails crowd' failed to support Hillary Clinton, the only one who could have stopped the right.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
16. You're damn right it is.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:33 AM
Oct 2020

Jaime Harrison is a razor’s edge from beating him. Hugging and praising Graham’s handling of this sham hearing is absolutely undermining us.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
28. Aside from giving succour to that shitbag, what if Graham is a spreader ? She's supposed to be a
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:32 PM
Oct 2020

leader, and that's not leading.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
14. Praising and hugging the hypocritical traitor Graham
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:31 AM
Oct 2020

when we have someone who has a razor thin chance of unseating him... is doing WHAT to help us?

Save it.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
17. If you support Democrats
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:36 AM
Oct 2020

You do not support anything that gives Graham a lifeline in a close race he has a real chance of losing.

Which is precisely what she did.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Agree. She's a pro who knows what she's doing.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:43 AM
Oct 2020

And outside rare campaigning, usually to help others get elected, almost none of this very powerful person’s job takes place in public.

lark

(23,083 posts)
7. This isn't the first time she's stepped in it.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 08:57 AM
Oct 2020

It certainly won't do her any favors back home, but maybe she's planning on retiring soon so doesn't care?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Feinstein was just reelected handily, and
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:00 AM
Oct 2020

Her term ends in 2025. What do you imagine as “stepping in it” might better be recognized as not needing to engage in public showboating to pander to those who don’t understand what her job is and how she does it.

Our party’s position on all this is extremely solid And known to most, and other politicians are acting it out in caricature for those who don’t read.

After all, Trump was right when he said elections have consequences. There is absolutely nothing our minority senators can do to stop this from going through. They can use it to make Republican senators up for reelection look like what they are.

lark

(23,083 posts)
35. It hasn't made a dent in repugs reputations.
Sat Oct 17, 2020, 11:06 AM
Oct 2020

It hasn't hurt them one bit with anyone who dislikes abortion, which is almost 100% of the right and about half of Independents. Look at non-progressive news and there's nothing bad in there about repugs or her because they all approve. There is nothing good about this for Democrats, women, the working class and even our country, not one damn thing. It is 100% bad and hypocritical of repugs. Now we have to expand the courts or we are a strongly right wing country for the next 50 years because any left move will be overturned by the extreme right wing SCOTUS. They could even install drumpf with her assistance, regardless if he loses by tens of millions of votes. So yeah, this is big and bad and I don't trust that lying Handmaiden one fucking bit.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
9. Back to the days when our Dems put their friendships with their Republican opponents
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:34 AM
Oct 2020

above fighting for the people who voted them into office. So sad.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
18. I'm not so sure.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:40 AM
Oct 2020

That was a time when black and brown people were told to pipe down prior to elections so the Dems didn't scare off the racist Southern whites.

That was a time when "All politics are local" meant that many of us who lived in white suburban communities were run-over by the backwater networks that made sure the surplus of Federal money was put in the hands of their inner circles, while the rest of us were bullied.

The story of what was lost during that time period, is yet to be written.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. Beginning?
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:25 AM
Oct 2020

You haven’t been paying attention to her for very long, then. She has been bothering me for over a decade.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. There's no mechanism to remove her.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:43 AM
Oct 2020

Those of us on the left have been griping about Di-Fi for a long time, but the people of California continue to re-elect her. Her voluntary retirement is about the only way that she will ever go away.

She can be de-chaired, and that’s what is being discussed, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
24. Maybe.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:55 AM
Oct 2020

It certainly wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Gavin Newsome had the opportunity to appoint a replacement for her.

-Laelth

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
30. If all goes well, the Dems will need to move very quickly with the legislative program they will
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:37 PM
Oct 2020

need to enact from Jan 20, it is not a time for the niceties of the past. If Republicans sense weakness they'll target it.

theaocp

(4,235 posts)
23. Go back and listen to Jello Biafra talking about running against her for mayor of SF.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:51 AM
Oct 2020

She been in the game for herself since forever.

Silver1

(721 posts)
26. I am so put off ...
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

What she did was a jab at every dem colleague in that room and she knew it. If she was so moved she could have hugged Graham off camera right? No, she chose to do it in full view because she wanted to politicize her support for him.

I hope Harrison wins.








Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
29. The hug, FUCK, and hugging without wearing a mask, FUCKFUCKFUCK!
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:36 PM
Oct 2020

She's always been on my shit list but in this moment, that entire scene was sending ALL the wrong signals.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
31. She's fine.
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 07:40 PM
Oct 2020

I doubt she goes for another term. It was considered a bit of a surprise she went for another term when telegraphing she was done. She's just keeping the seat warm. And Lindsey an her may be colleagues and get along behind the scenes. But both know one or the other is going bye bye first.

mvd

(65,169 posts)
34. Way too nice for a sham hearing
Fri Oct 16, 2020, 09:32 PM
Oct 2020

We can’t be doing that. Yes, she is one of my least favorite Democrats, but I was not expecting what she did. And at her age, hugging someone who may have COVID?

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