Sat Oct 17, 2020, 07:56 AM

erronis (9,332 posts)

Heather Cox Richardson: "palpable sense of rats leaving a sinking ship"

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/october-16-2020

This is a very powerful piece.

The theme of the day was the palpable sense of rats leaving a sinking ship as Republicans, administration officials, and administration-adjacent people distanced themselves from the president.

There was a foreshadowing of that exodus on Wednesday, when Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE) let loose about the president in a telephone call with constituents. Sasse was an early critic of Trump but toned down his opposition significantly in the early part of the administration. On Wednesday, he reverted to his earlier position, saying he had “never been on the Trump train.” He complained about the way Trump “kisses dictators’ butts,” and went on: "The United States now regularly sells out our allies under his leadership, the way he treats women, spends like a drunken sailor…. [He] mocks evangelicals behind closed doors...has treated the presidency like a business opportunity" and has "flirted with white supremacists." He said: “What the heck were any of us thinking, that selling a TV-obsessed, narcissistic individual to the American people was a good idea?"

The theme of abandoning the administration became apparent yesterday, when officials leaked the story that intelligence officials had warned Trump against listening to his lawyer Rudy Giuliani. This was a high-level leak, and suggests that more and more staffers are starting to look for a way off the S.S. Trump.

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Meanwhile, at his rally tonight in Georgia, Trump told the crowd “You should… lock up the Bidens, lock up Hillary.” The crowd then began to chant “Lock them up.” But one thing about a bully: when people finally start to turn on him, there is a stampede for the exits.

Tonight, at his Georgia rally, Trump outlined all the ways in which he was being unfairly treated, then mused: “Could you imagine if I lose?... I’m not going to feel so good. Maybe I’ll have to leave the country, I don’t know.”

Can't imagine which country he and his family could go to.... I don't think vlad would have much use for him and his cohort any more.

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Heather Cox Richardson: "palpable sense of rats leaving a sinking ship" (Original post)	erronis	Oct 2020	OP
It may be a good idea...	Newest Reality	Oct 2020	#1
His fleeing the country would be the best case for Democrats and the country.	jaxexpat	Oct 2020	#40
If he left the country we could claim 2016 was illegitimate	Buckeyeblue	Oct 2020	#59
I like your thinking. It's legitimate after all these years of being forced to pretend.......	jaxexpat	Oct 2020	#75
I like your list...	Buckeyeblue	Oct 2020	#77
I agree and hope he flees	pandr32	Oct 2020	#63
Well said	live love laugh	Oct 2020	#76
He can go exchange love letters with Kim	UpInArms	Oct 2020	#2
He could go hang out at an Esso gas station.	Girard442	Oct 2020	#3
I see what you did there......	getagrip_already	Oct 2020	#41
"Could you imagine if I lose?"	coeur_de_lion	Oct 2020	#4
It delights the imagination, Moron. n/t	sarge43	Oct 2020	#22
Certainly, He Went Off Script	ProfessorGAC	Oct 2020	#25
Well, that's what foreign agents do	wnylib	Oct 2020	#34
Subpoenas and warrants will be waiting for Trumpy-Boy the moment Biden is sworn in.	Eyeball_Kid	Oct 2020	#53
Good point	coeur_de_lion	Oct 2020	#72
Benedict Arnold was a man without a country	SallyHemmings	Oct 2020	#5
This isn't how people act when they have a "secret plan" to steal the election...nt	Fiendish Thingy	Oct 2020	#6
Trump is probably worse than I am mocking evangelicals, and I am brutal! I think "W" did as	brewens	Oct 2020	#7
Take trump and all his cult followers	Andy823	Oct 2020	#8
Good idea. Let them prove to us that	wnylib	Oct 2020	#42
Saint Helena ?	DBoon	Oct 2020	#78
Drop them off on the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. It's not sinking any time soon.	Hekate	Oct 2020	#79
He and Snowden can be roomies.	George II	Oct 2020	#9
Great post, brother of mine.	PWPippinesq	Oct 2020	#10
One can only hope	musclecar6	Oct 2020	#11
Where was Ben Sasse during impeachment?	BarbD	Oct 2020	#12
YEP - fornicate the POS	Cosmocat	Oct 2020	#20
Yup. Rats deserting a sinking ship	wnylib	Oct 2020	#48
he's trying to make up in advance for voting for barrett	certainot	Oct 2020	#61
No excuses and no do-overs allowed.	BarbD	Oct 2020	#65
vote is right, but i hope people will do more	certainot	Oct 2020	#74
He could establish a commune in a small	Harker	Oct 2020	#13
Epstein's Island has vacancies	flibbitygiblets	Oct 2020	#17
It's still US territory so the FBI would have juridiction	csziggy	Oct 2020	#43
You beat me to it's!	True Blue American	Oct 2020	#52
That would be perfect; Is that why he wanted to buy Greenland? n/t	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#31
Maybe so...	Harker	Oct 2020	#68
I have a prediction...lets see if it happens	Escurumbele	Oct 2020	#14
Agree. When Barrett is confirmed	wnylib	Oct 2020	#56
They may indeed escape the sinking ship...	dchill	Oct 2020	#15
He can join ken lay on his island.	niyad	Oct 2020	#16
I nominate the Central African Republic.	TexasProgresive	Oct 2020	#18
How about Iraq? Just drop him in the middle of a street	Escurumbele	Oct 2020	#21
Once he is out of office he will not be of any use to vlad, the usefulness of the idiot will end	Escurumbele	Oct 2020	#19
They only "love" him because he has power.	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#32
Too much too little too late	Chainfire	Oct 2020	#23
No, I don't think Putin has much use for a disgraced former president who is under investigation.	tanyev	Oct 2020	#24
No, but maybe he'll break up with him over some of that polonium tea he seems to be so fond of...	dixiechiken1	Oct 2020	#26
Are you kiddng? Putin would LOVE it....	getagrip_already	Oct 2020	#46
Wrong word, Shitbag	Aviation Pro	Oct 2020	#27
I think Putin would offer Trump safe haven, a beautiful gosdacha in Peredelkino...	Silent3	Oct 2020	#28
He and his MAGA idiots should move to Russia. Seriously, it is made for their narrow thinking	Vivienne235729	Oct 2020	#29
Too late.	zentrum	Oct 2020	#30
There's ways to fix the courts.	Turin_C3PO	Oct 2020	#37
"Hallo Amerikaner soldier! I am... ah... Swiss! Yes, Swiss, not German!"	JHB	Oct 2020	#33
It would be best for all of us if he fled the country.	Chemisse	Oct 2020	#35
Trump's the one we need to lock up RIGHT NOW so he won't leave the country! Either that, or	Illumination	Oct 2020	#36
So we can count on Sasse to vote NO on the ACB SCOTUS nomination. That is the best exit route he has	usaf-vet	Oct 2020	#38
Russia	tiptonic	Oct 2020	#39
He's telling us he's going to leave the country to avoid prosecution.	blueinredohio	Oct 2020	#44
Great essay!	volstork	Oct 2020	#45
Frankly, Putin will likely be indifferent when Trump loses	Mr. Ected	Oct 2020	#47
I met a man recently who'd been a young teen in Germany in 1945. He said when news of Hitler's death	NBachers	Oct 2020	#49
The Bush family bought property in Uruguay.	colorado_ufo	Oct 2020	#50
This message was self-deleted by its author	roamer65	Oct 2020	#54
and so it begins	mnmoderatedem	Oct 2020	#51
He will flee to his favorite place.	roamer65	Oct 2020	#55
Our historian on Facebook	h2ebits	Oct 2020	#57
For those of us who avoid fb, she also posts on substack	erronis	Oct 2020	#62
Oh, thank you! I'll follow her there.	h2ebits	Oct 2020	#66
It's always my pleasure to recommend away from fb. HCR Wikipedia page:	erronis	Oct 2020	#70
Thanks again.	h2ebits	Oct 2020	#73
FYI, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and UAE don't have extradition treaties with the United States.	Efilroft Sul	Oct 2020	#58
Let the Saudis take him in - and his whole grifting family.	scarletwoman	Oct 2020	#60
Oh he's such a child...	abakan	Oct 2020	#64
I think the UAE is the most likely place of exile	muriel_volestrangler	Oct 2020	#67
I heard Iran wants him	dweller	Oct 2020	#69
Could always extract oil from his well-larded body.	erronis	Oct 2020	#71
Poor Bully Victim trumpVirus.. such a Sad Sad	Cha	Oct 2020	#80
Sasse never was on the Trump train, huh?	Wednesdays	Oct 2020	#81

Response to erronis (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2020, 08:03 AM

Newest Reality (12,704 posts)

1. It may be a good idea...

It may be a good idea for a traitor to leave the country he has totally betrayed. It's less messy that way after you create chaos and division just to hold onto power.

A President who puts himself first and foremost is not only completely betraying his oath of office, he is kicking out the very foundations of our democracy because that is what tyrannical authoritarians do.

He wants four more years to finish that demolition off and he is literally begging for it now because the consequences may be far greater than mere winning or losing the office.

Trump want's his followers to FIGHT FOR HIM. Biden wants to FIGHT FOR US.

That's the real choice now.

Heather Cox Richardson: "palpable sense of rats leaving a sinking ship"

1. It may be a good idea...

40. His fleeing the country would be the best case for Democrats and the country.

59. If he left the country we could claim 2016 was illegitimate

75. I like your thinking. It's legitimate after all these years of being forced to pretend.......

77. I like your list...

63. I agree and hope he flees

76. Well said

2. He can go exchange love letters with Kim

3. He could go hang out at an Esso gas station.

41. I see what you did there......

4. "Could you imagine if I lose?"

22. It delights the imagination, Moron. n/t

25. Certainly, He Went Off Script

34. Well, that's what foreign agents do

53. Subpoenas and warrants will be waiting for Trumpy-Boy the moment Biden is sworn in.

72. Good point

5. Benedict Arnold was a man without a country

6. This isn't how people act when they have a "secret plan" to steal the election...nt

7. Trump is probably worse than I am mocking evangelicals, and I am brutal! I think "W" did as

8. Take trump and all his cult followers

42. Good idea. Let them prove to us that

78. Saint Helena ?

79. Drop them off on the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. It's not sinking any time soon.

9. He and Snowden can be roomies.

10. Great post, brother of mine.

11. One can only hope

12. Where was Ben Sasse during impeachment?

20. YEP - fornicate the POS

48. Yup. Rats deserting a sinking ship

61. he's trying to make up in advance for voting for barrett

65. No excuses and no do-overs allowed.

74. vote is right, but i hope people will do more

13. He could establish a commune in a small

17. Epstein's Island has vacancies

43. It's still US territory so the FBI would have juridiction

52. You beat me to it's!

31. That would be perfect; Is that why he wanted to buy Greenland? n/t

68. Maybe so...

14. I have a prediction...lets see if it happens

56. Agree. When Barrett is confirmed

15. They may indeed escape the sinking ship...

16. He can join ken lay on his island.

18. I nominate the Central African Republic.

21. How about Iraq? Just drop him in the middle of a street

19. Once he is out of office he will not be of any use to vlad, the usefulness of the idiot will end

32. They only "love" him because he has power.

23. Too much too little too late

24. No, I don't think Putin has much use for a disgraced former president who is under investigation.

26. No, but maybe he'll break up with him over some of that polonium tea he seems to be so fond of...

46. Are you kiddng? Putin would LOVE it....

27. Wrong word, Shitbag

28. I think Putin would offer Trump safe haven, a beautiful gosdacha in Peredelkino...

29. He and his MAGA idiots should move to Russia. Seriously, it is made for their narrow thinking

30. Too late.

37. There's ways to fix the courts.

33. "Hallo Amerikaner soldier! I am... ah... Swiss! Yes, Swiss, not German!"

35. It would be best for all of us if he fled the country.

36. Trump's the one we need to lock up RIGHT NOW so he won't leave the country! Either that, or

38. So we can count on Sasse to vote NO on the ACB SCOTUS nomination. That is the best exit route he has

39. Russia

44. He's telling us he's going to leave the country to avoid prosecution.

45. Great essay!

47. Frankly, Putin will likely be indifferent when Trump loses

49. I met a man recently who'd been a young teen in Germany in 1945. He said when news of Hitler's death

50. The Bush family bought property in Uruguay.

51. and so it begins

55. He will flee to his favorite place.

57. Our historian on Facebook

62. For those of us who avoid fb, she also posts on substack

66. Oh, thank you! I'll follow her there.

70. It's always my pleasure to recommend away from fb. HCR Wikipedia page:

73. Thanks again.

58. FYI, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and UAE don't have extradition treaties with the United States.

60. Let the Saudis take him in - and his whole grifting family.

64. Oh he's such a child...

67. I think the UAE is the most likely place of exile

69. I heard Iran wants him

71. Could always extract oil from his well-larded body.

80. Poor Bully Victim trumpVirus.. such a Sad Sad