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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 10:27 AM Sep 2012

Why was Jimmy Carter on (ex ?) Mormon LaBaron's hit list?

Watched a few of the videos on Romney's cousins who are still in Chihuahua Mexico and one chapter stood out. They talk about "Blood Atonement" and how a Mormon family went on a killing spree that crossed international borders and left 20 people dead. One of the family is still on the lamb with a $20,000 reward offered by the FBI. The killings continued after the capture, arrest and death prison of Ervil Labaron because he left a list of more people to kill.

Ervil LeBaron, 52, polygamous (13 wives, at least 25 children) leader of the tiny Church of the Lamb of God, is the target of investigations by police departments from San Diego and Los Angeles to Salt Lake City and Denver. Even the Secret Service is interested in his whereabouts, since some of his followers sent a threatening letter to the then presidential candidate Jimmy Carter in September 1976. LeBaron’s alleged crime: inducing several of his 40-odd disciples, including a number of women, to murder between 13 and 20 people who failed to abide by what he decreed to be the “constitutional law of the Kingdom of God.”

http://mexfiles.net/2009/07/08/the-more-than-mormon-murders-chihuahua/

This is the relevant part of the video series:



The Labarons are neighbors with the branch of the Romneys who never left Mexico.

What I can't seem to find is: Why did they target Jimmy Carter?
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Why was Jimmy Carter on (ex ?) Mormon LaBaron's hit list? (Original Post) KurtNYC Sep 2012 OP
Because Jimmy Carter is a Christian and orpupilofnature57 Sep 2012 #1
maybe this: KurtNYC Sep 2012 #2
As the author of the article in the link... richmx2 Sep 2012 #3
the VICE videos that I watched had what might seem a sympathetic tone KurtNYC Sep 2012 #4

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
2. maybe this:
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 11:08 AM
Sep 2012
It was toward the end of his prison term in Mexico that Ervil came to the attention of the U.S. Secret Service. In the fall of 1976, before Ervil's release, an organization called the Society of American Patriots was formed. Letters from the group were sent to Evangelist Billy Graham and Presidential Candidate Jimmy Carter, among others, threatening them with death if they did not intercede to free Ervil. The Secret Service traced the letters back to two of Ervil's wives, who had rented a post office box in Pasadena in the society's name.


http://www.murderpedia.org/male.L/l/lebaron-ervil.htm

The secret service gave credence to the threats because of the number of murders that Ervil's wives had carried out in the United States during the 1970s. Does any of this tie into Carter's grandson and the 47% tape release?

richmx2

(2 posts)
3. As the author of the article in the link...
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:31 PM
Sep 2012

... I've been hearing a lot about that crappy "VICE" video. The Canadian company (which has a history of alarmist anti-Mexican propaganda) doesn't seem to distinguish between those Mormons, like the Romneys, who emigrated to Mexico in the 1890s, and the LeBaron Colony, which came in the 1920s. They consider each other heretics, something I'm not qualified to judge, but most correspondence I've had with Mormon scholars and Latin Americanists point out that the LeBarons are to the Latter-Day Saints (Mitt Romney's denomination) as the Methodists are to the Roman Catholics... i.e., a break-away sect of a break-away sect from an older denomination.

Ervil LeBaron, most agree, was mentally ill... asking why he threatened Jimmy Carter is probably fruitless.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
4. the VICE videos that I watched had what might seem a sympathetic tone
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:36 PM
Sep 2012

when looking at the drug war raging along the Mexican border, implying that actions by the US are fanning the flames in northern Mexico. I am curious to know your take on that. And now I am curious about what angle a Canadian company has in releasing this stuff 50 days before the US election. Most documentaries that wind up on YouTube have a fairly blatant bias one way or the other. I watched a couple of these trying to figure out what their bias was. I confess I failed to find a strong political bias -- the only clear passion in them seems to be the fascination with weapons, small scale warfare and warlords.

In what little research I have done, it seems like LDS has made some major changes in their doctrine at strategic moments. Polygamy, the Cain doctrine, etc. It is hard to tell if these fairly radical changes are embraced by the adherents or whether there is significant variation between what is announced and what is practiced. Your article does a far better job of conveying the nuances and details than does the VICE vid which is sloppy on the distinctions you mention.

Best I can tell the answer on Carter is there was one semi-threatening letter telling him he was not 'following the word of God' -- a similar letter/threat was sent to the Rev Billy Graham. And then a separate threat was made to try and pressure Carter to get LeBaron released.



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