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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt is always the women's fault with this lot...
Of course, she would do this. Her lived life is being subservient to and controlled by men. The narrative of her life is about punishing women for having & enjoying sex outside the pure biblical construct. I am very sure that the fact that this young lady found herself in jail means that in the mind of this horror story she was asking for it, or complicit in the attacks you know in the same way these types think if you are wearing a mini skirt and get raped it is your fault for flaunting yourself? Same thing here, if she had not made life choices that led her to being locked up, she would not have exposed herself to potential harm from her rapist. Ergo it is her own fault. It is always the womens fault with this lot, whatever the situation or circumstance, the white patriarchal power structure is entrenched in their mind set.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)PCIntern
(25,518 posts)I pray for Karma to come to these individuals who do this to others.
Arkansas Granny
(31,513 posts)FBaggins
(26,727 posts)It doesn't appear to have anything to do with it being "her own fault" or that she "exposed herself".
Nobody questioned that the rapist was responsible for his own actions. The question was whether the county was responsible.
There's a reason that Democrats didn't bring the case up during the hearings. The decision (which Barrett didn't write) was unanimous (including a Clinton appointee). And the same court (with Barrett on the panel) voted unanimously the other way in a similar case where the county was responsible.
sl8
(13,720 posts)Thanks for your post.
jaxexpat
(6,815 posts)IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)Someone in local government there has oversight of prison workers and should have a safe way for victims to report crimes without fear of retaliation.
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)There's a reason (apart from simple decency) that companies implement anti-harassment policies and training. If an employee does something illegal out of personal motives and the employer has clearly said that such behavior is unacceptable, then the employer generally is not liable for that act. The closer it comes to an employee being able to say that he was just doing his job and the employer never told him that he couldn't behave that way... the closer it comes to being something the company is liable for.
Barrett's time on the 7th circuit actually involved two facially similar cases of inmate rape. In the Polk county case, two Trump judges and one (believe it or not) Ford appointee, split on whether the county was liable. They initially ruled against the county (with one Trump judge dissenting). The full 7th circuit then heard the appeal and overturned the panel's ruling 7-4 (with Barrett joining the majority).
But in this case, the ruling was unanimous (including a Clinton judge), the full circuit declined to rehear the case.
What was the difference? As you imply... county prisons should have policies and practices protecting inmates from assault. That doesn't mean that ANY assault makes them liable... but Polk county had inadequate training on the subject and a bad track record. There was a history of tolerating sexually abusive language without repercussions. An investigation of a prior guard assault also showed inadequate training and minimizing sexual abuse, so they were on notice. And they did almost nothing to implement the Prison Rape Elimination Act that had been on the books for years. This caused the court (including Barrett) to decide that the county was "deliberately indifferent" to a known risk to their prisoners.
But in this case, the opposite was true. Guards had been explicitly trained that even "consensual" sexual behavior with inmates was unacceptable and against the law. That's the opposite of what the OP implies. Even if the prisoner was literally "asking for it"... the guard was on notice that it could not happen... and (unlike in the Polk case) any accusations of such behavior would be investigated and they would fire and prosecute violations.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Mostly going through Max Kennerly's analysis, but their conclusion was
In this case, it was the former; the judges essentially had to both ignore the facts and re-write the relevant statute to overturn the jury verdict:
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2020/10/the-textualists
zanana1
(6,106 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,743 posts)And even paid escort Melania was not good enough for Donald.
He had to seek out a porn star who reminded him of his daughter.
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Need a better word for 'good'.
Kinky? Exotic? Special? Alive?
Illumination
(2,458 posts)Donald & Ivanka! Makes one wonder about the two of them & their "relationship" if you know what I mean.....
calimary
(81,193 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)but I wanted to stay as classy as I could...considering the subject material.
speaknow
(321 posts)what they do. Try this BS, she wanted it! or she was asking
for it, even though she might be 12 years old it doesn't matter
the age. Because the Parrett made her choice. She will
apply the same BS to ACA, like, you didn't have to choose
ACA. Also the same for Roe V Wade . Above all she sided
with " No responsibility " Taking the side of corporates
over people. Parretts mind is pre made up for everything
already, always favor the wealth over the poor.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)神様、私はこれらのクソ共和党員が嫌いです!!!
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)Favourability Level: Loathsome.