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Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:11 PM

Trump gaining in PA?

One of my friends posted on FB short time ago that Trump is gaining steam in PA? Is there a new poll out or something?

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Reply Trump gaining in PA? (Original post)
Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 OP
Loki Liesmith Oct 2020 #1
TwilightZone Oct 2020 #2
Polybius Oct 2020 #5
TwilightZone Oct 2020 #6
lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #7
Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #22
Claustrum Oct 2020 #3
lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #9
Claustrum Oct 2020 #13
lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #16
Claustrum Oct 2020 #17
SouthernCal_Dem Oct 2020 #4
Under The Radar Oct 2020 #8
PTWB Oct 2020 #10
Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #11
Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #24
SoonerPride Oct 2020 #12
vercetti2021 Oct 2020 #14
budkin Oct 2020 #15
NRaleighLiberal Oct 2020 #18
BGBD Oct 2020 #19
USALiberal Oct 2020 #20
Politicub Oct 2020 #21
Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #23
grantcart Oct 2020 #25
Locutusofborg Oct 2020 #26
Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #27
helpisontheway Oct 2020 #34
FakeNoose Oct 2020 #28
Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #29
Trenzalore Oct 2020 #30
SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #31
Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #35
SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #36
radius777 Oct 2020 #38
SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #39
radius777 Oct 2020 #41
tormadjax Oct 2020 #37
SlogginThroughIt Oct 2020 #40
DarthDem Oct 2020 #32
BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #33
Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #42
TeamPooka Oct 2020 #43


Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:12 PM

2. Facebook is not a valid source.

For anything, really.

And, no, he's not. Even Rasmussen has Biden +3.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:15 PM

5. +3 is not enough

He was +10 two weeks ago.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:16 PM

6. Not with Rasmussen he wasn't.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:17 PM

7. Right, but Rasmussen is shite. Add 5 points to Biden.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #5)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:30 PM

22. His poll average in PA

is pretty steady. It may tighten a bit but I'm not worried. Biden will carry the state.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:12 PM

3. I think there is a recent poll +1 on Biden

It was Trafalgar yesterday.

Edit: Not saying it's a good pollster. Just that some people cherry pick this poll to show the "tightening" narrative.

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Response to Claustrum (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:18 PM

9. HAHAHAAAA! Trafalgar!

Come on, don't expect to be taken seriously if you cite Trafalgar. You can do better than that.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:20 PM

13. Look at my edit

I said they are a bad pollster but some people cherry pick it for the "tightening" narrative. But there is bad polls out there (yes, they have a huge right lean and should not be taken seriously).

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Response to Claustrum (Reply #13)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:22 PM

16. OK - gotcha.

Have to (at a minimum) compare the same poll to itself.

Better, follow the average at 538.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:23 PM

17. I completely agree with you. That's why I did the edit before you even responded.

Though, the OP asked if there is polls showing PA tightening and the fact is there is. Just that the pollster should (at the very least) be taken skeptically.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:17 PM

8. Polling was bad enough for Trump to pull television ads in Pennsylvania

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:18 PM

10. Don't use FB.

It is full of conservative propaganda no better than Fox News (and often much worse).

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:18 PM

11. Facebook? Seriously?

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:35 PM

24. Well

I assumed he was referring to a poll put out.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:19 PM

12. The less information you get from Facebook, the more informed you will be.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:21 PM

14. Facebook lmao

Don't listen to dumbass Facebook.

Last time I saw, Joe was up in PA by 5.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:21 PM

15. Nope

Been the same Biden +6 for a bit

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:24 PM

18. please stop!

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:25 PM

19. Rcp

Has a bad methodology for how they cal averages. Use 538

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:28 PM

20. Quit reading Facebook FFS! Nt

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:29 PM

21. Maybe your friend saw a sign in someone's yard?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:35 PM

23. 538 PA avg: Biden +6.4%, 538 odds: Biden 87/Trump 13 (same as national odds)

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:42 PM

25. PA has tightened 1-2 points


Virtually every other state is frozen or Biden is increasing.

It is going to tighten in Florida

On the other hand GA TX and OH are tightening our way, tied or pulling ahead

(Cannot believe someone alerted on this.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 03:50 PM

26. The most recent PA polls

Latest Pennsylvania polls:
Rasmussen Reports/Pulse Opinion Research--Oct. 18-19--47% Trump/50% Biden
HarrisX Oct. 12-15--46%Trump/51% Biden
Ipsos Oct. 13-19--45% Trump/49% Biden
Reuters Oct. 13-19 --45% Trump/49% Biden
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/20 ... nsylvania/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll ... -6861.html

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 04:53 PM

27. FYI: PA has only voted once for a gop prez in the last 24 yrs

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #27)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 05:32 PM

34. And the one they voted for is running right now. Nt

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 04:56 PM

28. No if anything he's losing

Pennsylvania will vote for Joe Biden, at least ENOUGH OF US will!
Many of us have already voted.



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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 05:00 PM

29. Just to clarify

One of my friends (not a Trumper at all) was doing one of those 270 to Win maps and mentioned that PA was tightening, hence the reason for my post. I had assumed that he had a valid poll-related reason to say that. I am not blindly trusting everything I read on FB or I wouldn't be here asking.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 05:02 PM

30. He's dumping all his remaining resources here

Visiting every other day.

I'm not sure if that is getting him any traction.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 05:02 PM

31. Why are people on this site SUCK jackasses?

OP clearly wasn’t saying that the info that they got off of facebook was a reliable source, just that they had heard something on FB. And the people just unload on them. Lately I see a ton of posts on this site flaming people for their posts. It really is a turnoff.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 12:48 PM

35. Thanks for the support

I didn't expect such a angry reaction.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #35)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 09:04 PM

36. Yeah I just don't understand

Yeah I just don't understand why it is wrong for someone to say "hey I heard something somewhere does this sound right to you guys?"

Unreal.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #36)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 09:48 PM

38. Because there's alot of disinformation out there

especially this close to an election.

There are lots of valid posts that raise concerns about poll tightening etc - where the source is properly cited, or if no source is available a more thorough description should be made. I see later on the original poster made a clarification about the source of the info - that should've been included in the original post.

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Response to radius777 (Reply #38)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

39. Take a look at how long the OP has been here.

Before jumping to this idea that the poster may be spreading disinformation it is helpful to look and see how many times the poster has posted and been a member.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #39)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

41. Still, people can inadvertently spread disinfo.

And there have indeed been high-count posters over the years who were subsequently banned and revealed to be trolls. Not saying the OP falls into that category, just that vigilance is required in this day and age.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #31)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 09:37 PM

37. The Quarantine Quarrelers?

 

Cranky from being shut in so much maybe?

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Response to tormadjax (Reply #37)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

40. Quite possible!

You might be right.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Tue Oct 20, 2020, 05:07 PM

32. Nope


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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:12 PM

42. No three new polls today.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

43. pardon me while I trash this thread

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