Hello, DUers! The Friday Afternoon Challenge awaits with: Notorious, Second Edition!

[CTyankee]

What is “notorious” about these images?

Good luck, and of course...no cheating...
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[CTyankee]

1. Hey, where are my peeps?

C'mon folks. Somebody has to have a guess...

[IcyPeas]

2. no clue. awaiting answers

[CTyankee]

3. Clue: where bad things happened...

[Angry Dragon]

4. #5 is from WWII

#1 is from South-East Asia

[joeybee12]

5. I think it's Dresden...nt

[CTyankee]

13. Not Dresden, no.

[CTyankee]

6. Actually, not really on # 5 but close. On #1, where in Southeast Asia?

#1 has a "name."

[Angry Dragon]

8. Vietnam

[kentuck]

16. Hue?

??

[Angry Dragon]

18. Hue?? do not understand your post

[CTyankee]

21. I am sorry, it was the "hanoi hilton" complex. That's what I meant about "name."

[Angry Dragon]

45. I was replying to kentuck

You always perfect sense ...........

[sakabatou]

7. Tokyo?

[Bozita]

9. #1. Hanoi Hilton?

[CTyankee]

10. Wa-hoo! You get the prize, Bozito!

Congrats!

[horseshoecrab]

11. #3

#3 was the Freedom Memorial near Checkpoint Charlie in Berlin. The cross on the far left front memorializes Peter Fechter, a bricklayer, who was the first person killed trying to escape from what had become East Berlin.

The memorial crosses stood from October, 2004 until July, 2005.


Hi CTyankee.

[CTyankee]

12. Wonderful. How did you know the story on Fechter?

[horseshoecrab]

17. well...

Used my handy magnifying glass to try to see the name on that cross clearly, then looked him up on google and found a photo of the memorial.

[CTyankee]

24. I tried using my magnifying glass to identify him but could not...good for you, tho...

[WCGreen]

56. Cool. I thought it was something involving the Cold War...

[Bozita]

14. #5. Guernica?

[CTyankee]

22. You are correct! I hope the fountain in the square and the 1930s vintage car gave it to you!

[Bozita]

43. The car, the architecture, and the bombing damage made me think Spanish Civil War.

Then Guernica popped into my mind.

[CTyankee]

49. Kind of an aching reminder of this town that was so decimated by order of its own country's

leader! Franco was a monster...no wonder Picasso said his "Guernica" painting would remain at the Museum of Modern Art in NYC until Franco died. When he finally did, Guernica was returned to Spain and it is now in the La Reina Sofia in Madrid. I saw it in the fall of 2008 and was stunned by its size (a full room length) and power...

[Angry Dragon]

15. #6 is from the Middle-East .......... Israel??

[CTyankee]

26. No, wrong area of the world...

[burrowowl]

19. Kick

[Kingofalldems]

20. Wild guess

#2 Three Mile Island?

[CTyankee]

23. Oh, no...very far removed from this place. But very much in the news at one time!

[Warpy]

25. Wild Guess #2

#6 Rachel Corrie monument?

[CTyankee]

28. Where is that?

[Warpy]

30. Gaza Strip

[CTyankee]

35. No. It is actually in the wrong continent...

[cbayer]

27. #2 looks like a ferry stop. Somewhere where the ferry hit the dock?

[CTyankee]

29. Hmmm, a ferry, huh? Well, well...

[JHB]

31. Chapaquiddick?

[Warpy]

32. That might have been my guess, but there's a bridge

and if you'd ever been over it, you'd know why whoever was driving Kennedy's car missed it at night in the fog.

[CTyankee]

34. now that it has been guessed...Kennedy says that he got out of the car before it went onto

the bridge and went to get the ferry. The last one had left so he said he had to swim across to Edgartown. The bridge (I think it is called the Dyck Bridge) has been rehabbed and is in good shape but you can no longer get to Edgartown from it, which you could in the 1960s, because so much of Chappy has washed away.

My daughter has a place there so I see that same sign every time I take the ferry over to Edgartown...

[CTyankee]

33. Yes! How did you know that?

[JHB]

36. 1) the ferry comment prompted thought#2. 2) I've been to Martha's Vinyard once, long time ago...

...in fact, it was at the same time Spielberg was filming Jaws and Edgartown had "Amity" signage all over the place. It's the only place I've seen really small, low ferries (the kind that would need signs about not blinding the captain). (I know they exist in other places, but it's the place where I've seen them.)

3) Having associations of "ferry" and "Martha's Vinyard" spring to mind, there was one obvious connection. Wasn't particularly sure of it, but it was worth a guess and turned out to be right.

[CTyankee]

39. I just love it! I also love those ferries (there are two!). the trip takes all of 4 minutes and that

includes loading 3 cars. You can also just ride over w/o car. You get off right in the middle of Edgartown with great, upscale shops and restaurants and lots and lots of Democrats, especially in the summer! Chappy is still pretty rustic. Only one paved road (coming from the ferry). The trees get sorta bent over because it is an island and it is really dark at night (no street lights obviously). If you live there in the summer, the ferry is essential cuz no stores on Chappy (except one little General Store with not much).

[Warpy]

41. I've gone over that bridge in the early 70s

and it was scary enough even with new signage and guard rails in broad daylight. At the time of the accident, it was a low cement arrangement with curbstones on either side and not much else. There were no lights and only a couple of small reflectors to show you where it was.

[CTyankee]

44. Not too much better now, but I think safer (I mean the bridge).

Chappy residents kinda love the "authenticity" of the old ferries (you know New England yankees).

Since there are no street lights (no paved streets either) on Chappy it must have been VERY dark when Kennedy and Kopechne took off in the car. The stop sign where he said they got confused is a bit of a distance from the ferry, but it really makes no sense to me why he didn't know which way to turn. It makes me wonder if he was even in the car at that juncture, but who knows?

[Generic Other]

37. I believe #4 depicts the death of a warrior in the Trojan War

Sarpedon. Killed by Patroclus the beloved of Achilles. Hermes is there to take him to the underworld. Hermes is clearly depicted wearing his hat and carrying his aegis or wand. The other two figures are Trojans, I think. Their names are included on the vase.

The vase maker is famous.

I teach mythology.

[Generic Other]

38. I am not sure I identified whyy it is notorious

Did someone steal it?

[CTyankee]

42. Yep. It was stolen from an Etruscan tomb, probably of rich person who bought it from a

merchant since it is Greek in origin.

It was sold under false pretenses to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City. The government of Italy sued to have it returned to Italy as part of its patrimony and won and it went back to Italy, where it is displayed in the Villa Guilia in Rome.

The piece is called The Euphonious Krater.

Great guess, Generic Other!

[Generic Other]

50. Ah. I was wondering if I had seen it

I recall spending a lot of time in the Mets' antiquities section.

[CTyankee]

52. I think it was returned in late 2006-2008. So you probably saw it if you were there before then.

It's really something. In beautiful shape. It kills me that it sits in lone splendor in the Villa Giullia with so few people visiting it...but patrimony is patrimony...

[CTyankee]

64. Where do you teach mythology?

Is it a course within a specific discipline?

[CTyankee]

40. It sure is! See above for full explanation, but you are totally correct.

[CTyankee]

47. The sad thing is that, altho I agree that it is the patrimony of Italy (in some ways), the

Villa Giulia does not have nearly the size of the patronage of the Met in NYC. So fewer people see this beautiful vase. As a matter of opinion, I think it probably should be the patrimony of Greece, but it was probably bought by an Etruscan from a Greek trader in artifacts.

However, it is not disputed now that the krater was stolen from the tomb of an Etruscan 2500 years ago. That's a long time, so...

[CTyankee]

48. It is the famous Euphonious Krater. A black eye for the Metropolitan Museum in NYC who had to

give it back to Italy.

How much other art and artifacts are owned by famous museums illegaly?

[horseshoecrab]

61. Hermes

Nice work Generic Other.

I love Hermes' (Mercury's) winged feet in this depiction! I've never seen this vase and have not seen this depiction of Hermes before.

The whole work is incredibly beautiful.

Thanks for the great challenge, CTYankee!

[gateley]

46. Kick!

[CTyankee]

51. # 6 is left. It is famous because of a famous world leader who was there. He was a prisoner.

[WCGreen]

54. Mandella?

[XemaSab]

55. I cheated

and yes.

[CTyankee]

57. Yay, WCGreen! You got it!

do you know where?

[WCGreen]

60. It was the vehicle in the backround that made me think of Africa...

[CTyankee]

59. It is Robben Island, where rocks were broken by prisoners...

[WCGreen]

53. Is five from Marid during the Spanish Civil War?

[CTyankee]

58. It is Guernica in the Basque country in Spain. Great, WCGreen!

What a dreadful turn of events in the Spanish Civil War that was!

So glad to see you here! I hope you'll come back to the Challenge again next week!

On edit: Picasso's famous painting of the same name was smuggled out of Franco's Spain to NYC where it hung in MoMA until Franco died and then, according to Picasso's will, it was returned to Spain. It is in La Reina Sofia in Madrid, where I saw it in 2008. It takes up the length of a room. Quite impressive.

When the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao was opening several years ago, they asked that museum if it would lend "Guernica" to it for its premiere. The answer was a polite "no." I think they didn't want to risk them not giving it back...

[blaze]

62. Thanks, as always, CTyankee!

Always enjoy your weekly challenge!

[CTyankee]

63. Great! Glad you like them. See you this coming Friday for another go round...