Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:02 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

Should Biden go to Texas?

Beto thinks so. I agree.

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Should Biden go to Texas? (Original post)	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	OP
secure the great lakes states	StTimofEdenRoc	Oct 2020	#1
Im a Great Lakes stater. Biden should go to Texas	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#2
That strategy lost in 2016. Not saying it will again. Don't want to take a risk, to run up the score	StTimofEdenRoc	Oct 2020	#11
Joe by some is 10 points ahead in WI.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#33
He can walk and chew gum at the same time!	dchill	Oct 2020	#3
I totally agree. Secure the Blue Wall of MI, WI and PA. Send Kamala to TX.	grobertj	Oct 2020	#19
Just don't go to Dallas	tavernier	Oct 2020	#4
Too soon.	Bantamfancier	Oct 2020	#5
He was in Dallas earlier this year:	dalton99a	Oct 2020	#49
No, focus on PA and Florida	Dream Girl	Oct 2020	#6
If he can fit it in.	DFW	Oct 2020	#7
I say yeas, but am confident he knows what he is doing.	denbot	Oct 2020	#8
yep!	samnsara	Oct 2020	#9
I don't think so -- for optics more than anything else given 2016	karynnj	Oct 2020	#10
Isn't the Covid spreading badly in Texas?	FakeNoose	Oct 2020	#12
They Do in the Democratically Controlled Big Cities	Stallion	Oct 2020	#16
We are definitely wearing masks in Texas.	TexasTowelie	Oct 2020	#20
Actually as of 10/24/20	Liberal In Texas	Oct 2020	#50
OK, good to know!	FakeNoose	Oct 2020	#56
Yes. Places trump has been the worst spot.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#64
Texas is the Future. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are right now.	PubliusEnigma	Oct 2020	#13
Well said nt	Trumpocalypse	Oct 2020	#29
He's inPA today. He's been to WI. WI might like Kamala as much.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#34
I say focus on rust belt, Georgia, NC, and Arizona	Tom Rivers	Oct 2020	#14
A trip to AZ could also easily combined with a trip to Texas	BannonsLiver	Oct 2020	#62
I would go just for the optics. It would show we are competitive in red territory	Quixote1818	Oct 2020	#15
Yes. Soon, so that Trump freaks out and rushes there himself	Tom Rinaldo	Oct 2020	#17
Yes. It fits his message	MoonlitKnight	Oct 2020	#18
Yes	Gothmog	Oct 2020	#21
Yes, absolutely.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Oct 2020	#22
Yes	BlueJac	Oct 2020	#23
YEs, it panics the GOP	relayerbob	Oct 2020	#24
I agree. Right now Joe ahead in WI by 10 in some polls.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#31
No. He can send his money and Kamala.	SoonerPride	Oct 2020	#25
Yes! nt	tblue37	Oct 2020	#26
YES!	PTWB	Oct 2020	#27
Biden must go to Texas	PirateRo	Oct 2020	#28
He's in PA today.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#36
No. It's a waste of time and resources	Trumpocalypse	Oct 2020	#30
Yes	Renew Deal	Oct 2020	#32
Texas has been waiting for some National effort by Democrats to put us over the top.	Dustlawyer	Oct 2020	#35
I agree.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#37
YES!	tibbir	Oct 2020	#47
Yes	DAMANgoldberg	Oct 2020	#38
He should go to Lake Travis,	Sogo	Oct 2020	#39
✔️	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#44
Yep	vercetti2021	Oct 2020	#40
If he can make it happen, he should do it, but not at the expense of something more important.	Native	Oct 2020	#41
Not a bad idea if they can fit it in...	Wounded Bear	Oct 2020	#42
Yes. He should go to Texas and ask for support in a polite, respectful, dignified manner.	Midnight Writer	Oct 2020	#43
Yes, and run there like he means it. It'll boost results down the ticket	NotASurfer	Oct 2020	#45
There is an opportunity of a win in Texas, and as long as he is safe, then yes definitely.	OnDoutside	Oct 2020	#46
I live in Houston.	tibbir	Oct 2020	#48
That sounds great ! Hopefully Beto can swing it.	OnDoutside	Oct 2020	#53
Yes. Absolutely.	clutterbox1830	Oct 2020	#51
Yes	bdamomma	Oct 2020	#52
last time	Dem2	Oct 2020	#54
What does that mean?	brooklynite	Oct 2020	#55
We have TV here. We also get the internet.	Liberal In Texas	Oct 2020	#57
Nationally too. Pick a city with lots of Hispanic vote.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#58
Yes	JI7	Oct 2020	#59
I'm not sure, but if he's planning on one more trip to AZ	BannonsLiver	Oct 2020	#60
Absolutely! The payoff is enormous, and would realign the political map...	johnnyrocket	Oct 2020	#61
He should have an event with Beto in El Paso then	Rice4VP	Oct 2020	#63
Joe is in PA today. Obama is in Florida.	LakeArenal	Oct 2020	#65
Yeah. Kamala was in Ohio today	Rice4VP	Oct 2020	#66
YES!	Generic Brad	Oct 2020	#67
We have 10 days to go. Yes, to Texas, Arizona, and Florida.	Efilroft Sul	Oct 2020	#68

Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:03 PM

StTimofEdenRoc (445 posts)

1. secure the great lakes states

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Response to StTimofEdenRoc (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:04 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

2. Im a Great Lakes stater. Biden should go to Texas

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:12 PM

StTimofEdenRoc (445 posts)

11. That strategy lost in 2016. Not saying it will again. Don't want to take a risk, to run up the score

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Response to StTimofEdenRoc (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:11 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

33. Joe by some is 10 points ahead in WI.

Joe has been here. He can send Kamala to WI.

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Response to StTimofEdenRoc (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:04 PM

dchill (26,849 posts)

3. He can walk and chew gum at the same time!

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Response to StTimofEdenRoc (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:30 PM

grobertj (187 posts)

19. I totally agree. Secure the Blue Wall of MI, WI and PA. Send Kamala to TX.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:05 PM

tavernier (9,150 posts)

4. Just don't go to Dallas

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Response to tavernier (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:06 PM

Bantamfancier (253 posts)

5. Too soon.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:31 PM

dalton99a (59,242 posts)

49. He was in Dallas earlier this year:

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:08 PM

Dream Girl (3,769 posts)

6. No, focus on PA and Florida

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:08 PM

DFW (41,695 posts)

7. If he can fit it in.

Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Georgia are worthy of attention, too, and the clock is ticking.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:10 PM

denbot (8,863 posts)

8. I say yeas, but am confident he knows what he is doing.

I vote for people who are far more competent than I.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:12 PM

samnsara (14,243 posts)

9. yep!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:12 PM

karynnj (58,331 posts)

10. I don't think so -- for optics more than anything else given 2016

It would echo HRC going to Arizona, where there was a possibility she could win. Had she won election, no one would have said or thought anything of that or they might have noted it made the Republicans defend Arizona. However, if Biden went to Texas, the media would have spoken of areas of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin or Florida.

It might be good to send Kamala or a top surrogate - even one of the Obamas. Texans, who could resonate with undecided Texans or excite more people to vote?

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:14 PM

FakeNoose (17,203 posts)

12. Isn't the Covid spreading badly in Texas?

I mean, nobody wears a mask there, am I right?

It's not worth the risk to Joe, or infecting innocent people who might come to see him.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:22 PM

Stallion (5,974 posts)

16. They Do in the Democratically Controlled Big Cities

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:33 PM

TexasTowelie (81,245 posts)

20. We are definitely wearing masks in Texas.

Under the governor's executive order customers are required to wear masks when going to a business. The last time I went grocery shopping I would say that 90% of the people were wearing masks and the percentage is even higher at Walmart.

Within the past week the number of people that are infected and hospitalized has increased after several weeks of decline. I think that a Biden visit to San Antonio or one of the Rio Grande Valley cities would have the most impact to get Hispanic voters to go vote.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #12)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:36 PM

Liberal In Texas (10,568 posts)

50. Actually as of 10/24/20

I would think he ought stay out of Wisconsin by that reasoning.

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #50)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:13 PM

FakeNoose (17,203 posts)

56. OK, good to know!

Thanks for showing me my wrongness.

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #50)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:37 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

64. Yes. Places trump has been the worst spot.

Fox River Valley is on fire.

Appleton the home of Ron Johnson I believe.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:15 PM

PubliusEnigma (1,570 posts)

13. Texas is the Future. Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin are right now.

Next time, Texas.

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Response to PubliusEnigma (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:52 PM

Trumpocalypse (6,143 posts)

29. Well said nt

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Response to PubliusEnigma (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:12 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

34. He's inPA today. He's been to WI. WI might like Kamala as much.

I do.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:16 PM

Tom Rivers (459 posts)

14. I say focus on rust belt, Georgia, NC, and Arizona

Texas feels a bit like fools gold. With very high turnout it could flip, still think we're another cycle or two away.

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Response to Tom Rivers (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:14 PM

BannonsLiver (11,759 posts)

62. A trip to AZ could also easily combined with a trip to Texas

But if they’re not planning on going back to AZ before the election, it makes less sense.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:18 PM

Quixote1818 (25,669 posts)

15. I would go just for the optics. It would show we are competitive in red territory

It would get some media play and could do some good in other states. It would also get under Trump's skin.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:27 PM

Tom Rinaldo (21,739 posts)

17. Yes. Soon, so that Trump freaks out and rushes there himself

Biden might actually win Texas, which would be incredible and give him a very strong mandate to govern. But Trump can't afford to divert resources to Texas. If Biden went to Texas one day and Obama went the next the Trump team will absolutely freak out and their panic will be impossible to hide. They will be thinking "what do they know!" and it will demoralize Trump supporters everywhere. Obama can pick up a rally for Biden somewhere else to offset Biden taking the time to go to Texas. Trump does not have any powerful surrogates.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:28 PM

MoonlitKnight (1,393 posts)

18. Yes. It fits his message

That he won’t just be President of blue states, but of the United States.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:33 PM

Gothmog (92,004 posts)

21. Yes

I would love for Joe and Dr. Biden to come to Texas. Senator Harris' trip was cancelled tdue to staffers testing postive for COVID

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:33 PM

PoindexterOglethorpe (18,109 posts)

22. Yes, absolutely.

If not Joe, then Kamala.

Writing off any state, even the reddest of the red, is dumb. I can just hear Joe Biden's soft voice, somewhere in the middle of deep, deep red country, saying, "I know many of you here won't vote for me. But if I win this race, I will be your President, too." And then he goes on to say one of the many compassionate things he says so often.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:33 PM

BlueJac (6,373 posts)

23. Yes

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:37 PM

relayerbob (3,484 posts)

24. YEs, it panics the GOP

He *can* in fact, walk and chew gum at the same time. He's already going to the midwest states also, and will continue to do so. They have this thing now, they are really cool, they are called "airplanes"! :-D

Comparing him to HRC not even going to WI in 2016 is silly, in fact, any comparison to 2016 is just a waste of time.

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #24)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:05 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

31. I agree. Right now Joe ahead in WI by 10 in some polls.

2020 is NOT 2016.20

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:38 PM

SoonerPride (9,379 posts)

25. No. He can send his money and Kamala.

Biden needs to focus on the rust belt states

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:39 PM

tblue37 (45,900 posts)

26. Yes! nt

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:39 PM

PTWB (2,660 posts)

27. YES!

Biden should be traveling between Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona and maybe Iowa - then repeat the loop. He should be hitting several of these states EVERY DAY.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:48 PM

PirateRo (872 posts)

28. Biden must go to Texas

And PA Nd FL.

He should have hit Texas at least twice already. Things don’t just fall in hand. He’s hot to do the work.

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Response to PirateRo (Reply #28)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:12 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

36. He's in PA today.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 01:53 PM

Trumpocalypse (6,143 posts)

30. No. It's a waste of time and resources

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:05 PM

Renew Deal (79,238 posts)

32. Yes

There has to be some time to swing through.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:12 PM

Dustlawyer (9,680 posts)

35. Texas has been waiting for some National effort by Democrats to put us over the top.

If we get there we would not have to worry much about swing states. This is the first national election where we have seen Democratic candidate campaign ads. Usually we only hear from Republicans. Hearing only one side kept us Red.

The focus this year has helped register a lot of voters for us that were previously uninvolved. Think of Joe’s trip here as an investment for Democrats for the future. It may also help him pull off the upset!

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #35)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:13 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

37. I agree.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #35)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:19 PM

tibbir (1,162 posts)

47. YES!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:20 PM

DAMANgoldberg (1,218 posts)

38. Yes

Houston, Austin, and El Paso in one day.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:25 PM

Sogo (2,064 posts)

39. He should go to Lake Travis,

site of the famous Battle of Lake Travis, where several Trump vessels were sunk!

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Response to Sogo (Reply #39)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:35 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

44. ✔️

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:26 PM

vercetti2021 (5,140 posts)

40. Yep

Just one visit can make a huge difference. Texas is a battleground state. Don't let it slip by you!

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:29 PM

Native (4,037 posts)

41. If he can make it happen, he should do it, but not at the expense of something more important.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:30 PM

Wounded Bear (43,095 posts)

42. Not a bad idea if they can fit it in...

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:35 PM

Midnight Writer (10,362 posts)

43. Yes. He should go to Texas and ask for support in a polite, respectful, dignified manner.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:36 PM

NotASurfer (1,683 posts)

45. Yes, and run there like he means it. It'll boost results down the ticket

Even if he doesn't win, TX will be a lot bluer. Beto speaks from experience, his run at Cruz helped flip state Senate & House seats and inspired a sweep of every judgeship in Harris Co if I remember correctly.

And I suspect that Joe would have Whataburger takeout a few times while he's there. Trump would never do that, way too out of touch

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 02:49 PM

OnDoutside (16,738 posts)

46. There is an opportunity of a win in Texas, and as long as he is safe, then yes definitely.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #46)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:24 PM

tibbir (1,162 posts)

48. I live in Houston.

As long as they stay in the large cities and maintain their usual standard of care, everyone will be perfectly safe.

We've gotten absolutely no attention from the Democratic party for so many years. The presidential and senate races are extremely close this time - turnout is what will make the difference. Visit from Biden or Harris would be huge.

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Response to tibbir (Reply #48)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:55 PM

OnDoutside (16,738 posts)

53. That sounds great ! Hopefully Beto can swing it.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:40 PM

clutterbox1830 (348 posts)

51. Yes. Absolutely.

Trump is spending nothing TX, GA, IA, and OH these days. Outside probably OH, I'll definitely spend some resources there. It is wide open.
In 2016, Clinton team focused all their money and effort in PA, FL, and NC and lost of these states despite outspending Trump.
Biden's camp should definitely spend money to get out the vote and make sure mail in ballots are returned, in Pa, NC, FL, MI, and WI, but there is definitely diminishing return on investment in ads. I live in PA and we are totally saturated with ads. It is better investment to play ads in states where they do not as many and where the market is open.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:40 PM

bdamomma (60,270 posts)

52. Yes

he should go.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 04:57 PM

Dem2 (8,097 posts)

54. last time

Hillary supposedly had a shot in TX.

Let's not go down this path this time, it's a bad bad idea.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:02 PM

brooklynite (68,529 posts)

55. What does that mean?

Houston?
Dallas?
San Antonio?
Austin?
Amarillo?
Corpus Christi?
Odessa?

Texas is massive with multiple media markets. How much impact is a single visit going to have?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #55)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:23 PM

Liberal In Texas (10,568 posts)

57. We have TV here. We also get the internet.

So his visit would be broadcast all over the state. Isn't that weird?

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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #57)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:30 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

58. Nationally too. Pick a city with lots of Hispanic vote.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 05:32 PM

JI7 (83,229 posts)

59. Yes

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:11 PM

BannonsLiver (11,759 posts)

60. I'm not sure, but if he's planning on one more trip to AZ

Then it would seem like it might be possible to combine that with a visit to Texas in one swing.

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:13 PM

johnnyrocket (1,771 posts)

61. Absolutely! The payoff is enormous, and would realign the political map...

When the Dems finally win Texas, it's an entirely new ballgame.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:32 PM

Rice4VP (1,203 posts)

63. He should have an event with Beto in El Paso then

swing by Arizona. But the focus should be Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina and Nevada

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Response to Rice4VP (Reply #63)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:41 PM

LakeArenal (16,471 posts)

65. Joe is in PA today. Obama is in Florida.

Supposedly we have tons of money.

Take the jet to Texas.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #65)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:43 PM

Rice4VP (1,203 posts)

66. Yeah. Kamala was in Ohio today

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Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:49 PM

Generic Brad (13,039 posts)

67. YES!

Scare the hell out of Trump and force him to play defense there.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:03 PM

Efilroft Sul (2,507 posts)

68. We have 10 days to go. Yes, to Texas, Arizona, and Florida.

Get in front of Hispanic voters and remind them that Trump called people like them stupid for showing up at immigration hearings, condemn the administration's child separation policy, tell them he hasn't forgotten about the citizens of Puerto Rico, and let them know one and all that they are the future of this nation and their support can make that happen sooner than later.

Do it. And have Harris and Obama hit other areas in those states during the days following his visits.

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