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(445 posts)LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)StTimofEdenRoc
(445 posts)LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)Joe has been here. He can send Kamala to WI.
dchill
(38,451 posts)grobertj
(187 posts)tavernier
(12,369 posts)Bantamfancier
(366 posts)dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)DFW
(54,302 posts)Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Georgia are worthy of attention, too, and the clock is ticking.
denbot
(9,898 posts)I vote for people who are far more competent than I.
samnsara
(17,606 posts)karynnj
(59,498 posts)It would echo HRC going to Arizona, where there was a possibility she could win. Had she won election, no one would have said or thought anything of that or they might have noted it made the Republicans defend Arizona. However, if Biden went to Texas, the media would have spoken of areas of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin or Florida.
It might be good to send Kamala or a top surrogate - even one of the Obamas. Texans, who could resonate with undecided Texans or excite more people to vote?
FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)I mean, nobody wears a mask there, am I right?
It's not worth the risk to Joe, or infecting innocent people who might come to see him.
Stallion
(6,473 posts)TexasTowelie
(111,972 posts)Under the governor's executive order customers are required to wear masks when going to a business. The last time I went grocery shopping I would say that 90% of the people were wearing masks and the percentage is even higher at Walmart.
Within the past week the number of people that are infected and hospitalized has increased after several weeks of decline. I think that a Biden visit to San Antonio or one of the Rio Grande Valley cities would have the most impact to get Hispanic voters to go vote.
Liberal In Texas
(13,533 posts)I would think he ought stay out of Wisconsin by that reasoning.
FakeNoose
(32,596 posts)Thanks for showing me my wrongness.
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)Fox River Valley is on fire.
Appleton the home of Ron Johnson I believe.
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Next time, Texas.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)I do.
Tom Rivers
(459 posts)Texas feels a bit like fools gold. With very high turnout it could flip, still think we're another cycle or two away.
BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)But if theyre not planning on going back to AZ before the election, it makes less sense.
Quixote1818
(28,919 posts)It would get some media play and could do some good in other states. It would also get under Trump's skin.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)Biden might actually win Texas, which would be incredible and give him a very strong mandate to govern. But Trump can't afford to divert resources to Texas. If Biden went to Texas one day and Obama went the next the Trump team will absolutely freak out and their panic will be impossible to hide. They will be thinking "what do they know!" and it will demoralize Trump supporters everywhere. Obama can pick up a rally for Biden somewhere else to offset Biden taking the time to go to Texas. Trump does not have any powerful surrogates.
MoonlitKnight
(1,584 posts)That he wont just be President of blue states, but of the United States.
Gothmog
(144,945 posts)I would love for Joe and Dr. Biden to come to Texas. Senator Harris' trip was cancelled tdue to staffers testing postive for COVID
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)If not Joe, then Kamala.
Writing off any state, even the reddest of the red, is dumb. I can just hear Joe Biden's soft voice, somewhere in the middle of deep, deep red country, saying, "I know many of you here won't vote for me. But if I win this race, I will be your President, too." And then he goes on to say one of the many compassionate things he says so often.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)relayerbob
(6,537 posts)He *can* in fact, walk and chew gum at the same time. He's already going to the midwest states also, and will continue to do so. They have this thing now, they are really cool, they are called "airplanes"! :-D
Comparing him to HRC not even going to WI in 2016 is silly, in fact, any comparison to 2016 is just a waste of time.
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)2020 is NOT 2016.20
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Biden needs to focus on the rust belt states
tblue37
(65,227 posts)Biden should be traveling between Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Arizona and maybe Iowa - then repeat the loop. He should be hitting several of these states EVERY DAY.
PirateRo
(933 posts)And PA Nd FL.
He should have hit Texas at least twice already. Things dont just fall in hand. Hes hot to do the work.
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)There has to be some time to swing through.
Dustlawyer
(10,494 posts)If we get there we would not have to worry much about swing states. This is the first national election where we have seen Democratic candidate campaign ads. Usually we only hear from Republicans. Hearing only one side kept us Red.
The focus this year has helped register a lot of voters for us that were previously uninvolved. Think of Joes trip here as an investment for Democrats for the future. It may also help him pull off the upset!
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)Houston, Austin, and El Paso in one day.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)site of the famous Battle of Lake Travis, where several Trump vessels were sunk!
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Just one visit can make a huge difference. Texas is a battleground state. Don't let it slip by you!
Native
(5,936 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)Midnight Writer
(21,719 posts)NotASurfer
(2,147 posts)Even if he doesn't win, TX will be a lot bluer. Beto speaks from experience, his run at Cruz helped flip state Senate & House seats and inspired a sweep of every judgeship in Harris Co if I remember correctly.
And I suspect that Joe would have Whataburger takeout a few times while he's there. Trump would never do that, way too out of touch
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)tibbir
(1,170 posts)As long as they stay in the large cities and maintain their usual standard of care, everyone will be perfectly safe.
We've gotten absolutely no attention from the Democratic party for so many years. The presidential and senate races are extremely close this time - turnout is what will make the difference. Visit from Biden or Harris would be huge.
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)clutterbox1830
(395 posts)Trump is spending nothing TX, GA, IA, and OH these days. Outside probably OH, I'll definitely spend some resources there. It is wide open.
In 2016, Clinton team focused all their money and effort in PA, FL, and NC and lost of these states despite outspending Trump.
Biden's camp should definitely spend money to get out the vote and make sure mail in ballots are returned, in Pa, NC, FL, MI, and WI, but there is definitely diminishing return on investment in ads. I live in PA and we are totally saturated with ads. It is better investment to play ads in states where they do not as many and where the market is open.
bdamomma
(63,801 posts)he should go.
Dem2
(8,166 posts)Hillary supposedly had a shot in TX.
Let's not go down this path this time, it's a bad bad idea.
brooklynite
(94,373 posts)Houston?
Dallas?
San Antonio?
Austin?
Amarillo?
Corpus Christi?
Odessa?
Texas is massive with multiple media markets. How much impact is a single visit going to have?
Liberal In Texas
(13,533 posts)So his visit would be broadcast all over the state. Isn't that weird?
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)Then it would seem like it might be possible to combine that with a visit to Texas in one swing.
johnnyrocket
(1,773 posts)When the Dems finally win Texas, it's an entirely new ballgame.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)swing by Arizona. But the focus should be Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina and Nevada
LakeArenal
(28,806 posts)Supposedly we have tons of money.
Take the jet to Texas.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)Scare the hell out of Trump and force him to play defense there.
Efilroft Sul
(3,578 posts)Get in front of Hispanic voters and remind them that Trump called people like them stupid for showing up at immigration hearings, condemn the administration's child separation policy, tell them he hasn't forgotten about the citizens of Puerto Rico, and let them know one and all that they are the future of this nation and their support can make that happen sooner than later.
Do it. And have Harris and Obama hit other areas in those states during the days following his visits.