GOP blew it with Barrett.

[Eyeball_Kid]

IMO:

There is a large chunk of Trump supporters who are Christian, single issue voters.

They are perceiving that, after decades of longing and fighting for a rock-ribbed “conservative” USSC, they finally achieved their dream and their glory with tonight’s Barrett confirmation.

And now as they run their victory laps, they will find NO REASON to vote for Trump. They only put up with him so he would pave the way for packing the courts. As far as they’re concerned, they already got from Trump what they wanted. Now they’ll have to decide whether they want to spend hours voting in a meaningless election or doing their laundry.

McConnell should have held off on the confirmation until mid-November. Yeah, there would have been downsides for that maneuver, but not something that, in all likelihood, could contribute to the disintegration of the GOP. The Barrett confirmation will widen the Biden lead and decimate the Republican Party.

[TheRealNorth]

1. They hate Democrats and POC

that is reason enough for them to vote for Trump.

[sfstaxprep]

2. They Got Points On The Scoreboard

The Court now has a 6-3 tilt. The ONLY way the Democrats have to get a fair shake for the next couple of decades, will be by adding Justices, and that is by no means a sure thing.

The repubs will now have a means to stop ANY Biden program they want, even though they don't have the Senate or the House.

[Eyeball_Kid]

7. Two steps:

1. Add two more justices to the USSC.

2. Impeach Kavanaugh for perjury.

[Progressive Jones]

26. Kavanaugh absolutely has to be removed. I don't really care how. nt

[mwooldri]

31. I would argue for four more...

We need one judge for every judicial district. Plus a Chief Justice. I believe that makes 13 in total.

[Eyeball_Kid]

37. I'm sensitive to political boundaries.

I’d love to see more, but for a lot of folks, and even for Democrats, impeaching Kavanaugh and adding two more seats would be too difficult to swallow.

[orangecrush]

61. Too bad they aren't

They have gotten away with this crap for too long. Give them a taste of their own medicine.

[cstanleytech]

73. Removing Kavanaugh is unlikely to happen as you need 2/3 of the Senate to convict.

[meow2u3]

74. Impeach Kavanaugh AND Barrett for perjury

They both knew they were under oath and both of them lied to Congress: Kavanaugh by lying about slang terms for degrading sex acts and Barrett by refusing to tell the whole truth.

[PSPS]

21. Not necessarily

If we take the senate, eliminate the filibuster and unpack (add seats to) the supreme court, the republicans will be powerless to stop anything. If legislation is passed to fix the obstacles to voting that republicans have purposefully placed, then the republicans will never win another election, at least in their current anti-american form.

[calimary]

70. Works for me!

Especially your second sentence, PSPS!

[dchill]

3. That's my take, too.

[marylandblue]

4. No, you've got it wrong. They all think Biden will pack the courts now.

So they won a battle, but not the war. Because we are not stopping either.

[BComplex]

17. And the truth is, the REPUBLICANS have "packed the courts" by slimy

cheating measures. And they appointed slimy cheating judges.

[Eyeball_Kid]

18. Some of them may think so,

but a sufficient number will drag their feet because they just don’t think that way. At this juncture, it won’t take much to see a landslide. And it may come down to a percentage of those who are in it for the judges and who lose their fanaticism.

[Indykatie]

5. No One Ever Accused the GOP of Being Bright Just Ruthless

Any way they handled the Barrett nomination had down risk but they decided to plow ahead anyway. Like most things they do it will backfire.

[Cracklin Charlie]

6. You're right.

May the blowback be epically spectacular!

[Tumbulu]

14. Yes, hoping for that as well

But they really set the stage for the ultimate in damage.

[Cracklin Charlie]

77. But why?

Why would Mitch risk so much, if he could’ve confirmed her just as easily two weeks after the election?

What made the turtle rush?

[Tumbulu]

81. That remains a mystery

but I guess we will find out.

[Tumbulu]

8. Well said, and I can only conclude

that McConnell and the rest of the republicans do not want Trump to remain in office and this is why they rammed it through like this.

They have done what they promised these religious zealots that they would do and now they can all exit stage right.

[leftieNanner]

9. McConnell knows that they will most likely lose both the WH and the Senate

Shoving her on SCOTUS was an end point for them in and of itself. After Nov 3rd, and after a powerful loss, it would be even more difficult for him to pull his caucus together to vote for her.

Turtle Man is proud of the fact that he believes that he has fucked the Democrats for a generation or more with all of the toxic judges and justices that he has put in place.

[BigmanPigman]

32. I am surprised my TV is still in one piece after I saw

that evil, greedy monster glowing and gleefully announcing how the GOP has "mission accomplished so fuck off Dems", something close to that if not exactly that statement.

I hope the GOP senators up for reelection all lose big time and continue to lose for many elections to come. And I hope the Dems take advantage in every possible way to screw the GOP's greedy, hypocritical moves from the past 30 years. Do unto others...play like the GOP and be ruthless! We the majority are sick of being ruled by the minority with dark money and deep pockets. Don't get mad, get even. Destroy the GOP and their backers!

[Eyeball_Kid]

39. That's the kind of sentiment

that drives a landslide.

[budkin]

82. Yeah he basically gloated that "there's nothing they can do about it."

We'll see about that you rotting motherfucker.

[BigmanPigman]

83. Rotting is the perfect word.

I hope those bruises on his hands and face are a sign of things to come for that bastard.

[Pobeka]

52. Turtle man is proud that he f*cked all non-rich, non priviledged americans, GOP folks included.

He must get no end of enjoyment getting people to vote for him that he screws over, and over again. LIke some kind of sick game.

[AlexSFCA]

10. GOP prefers SC to congress or presidency - they can overturn anything now

SC is more powerful than congress and presidency as it has the final say in all matters but military. Extreme SC can overturn every legislation and EO that dems pass. Even if GOP loses big this election, they’ve actually won for a long time. Even if thomas retires and gets replaced by dems, SC would still remain very conservative for decades.

[Autumn]

11. His supporters will vote for him no matter what, he validates and allows their racism to be front

and center and accepted. She is just the icing on the cake for the GOP party leaders. His voters don't give a fuck.

[CountAllVotes]

12. Roe v. Wade will take them all down

Last edited Mon Oct 26, 2020, 07:48 PM - Edit history (1)

If they overthrow this one, they are as good as gone as a party.

They won't exist.

Republicans get abortions too.

So do Christians; Catholics included.

[Zoonart]

13. I agree.

Ideally...the horse pulling the cart, NEVER gets the carrot on the stick hanging before the nag so that it will continue to pull the cart.
Who will pull the cart now? Eh?

Let them celebrate. They can strike down laws and we will write new ones, modern ones. We sill strengthen the courts and voting and the rights of citizens because the horse will no longer pull their cart.

[Takket]

15. the GOP knew the pain was coming and decided to nuke the bridge on the way out.

if drumpf had any brains at all he would have realized he could have used the empty SCOTUS seat as leverage to get more votes, but he's stupid, and he let mcconnel use him to help steal this seat. drumpf would have been far better off to leave it open and he still could have sat her in the lame duck session if/when he lost.

[Eyeball_Kid]

41. Yes. n/t

[Mariana]

16. I don't think Trump's Christian voters are going to turn on him.

He got the majority of the Christians' votes in 2016. He may have lost a few percentage points with them since then, but I think there's a very good chance the majority of Christians will vote for him again.

You believe Trump's Christian voters "put up with him" but it is not so. Many of them have made loyalty to Trump into a tenet of their Christian faith. They adore him, and they would enthusiastically support installing him as dictator for life.

[Eyeball_Kid]

29. With Biden's poll numbers,

it won’t take much to cause a landslide. Think of the 1% difference in WI, PA, and MI in 2016. Only a percentage of evangelicals or conservative Court enthusiasts who have dirty laundry to wash on 11/3 are needed to do it.

Elections are won at the margins. In the same way, a victory can morph into a landslide.

[Mariana]

38. We shall see. nt.

[greenjar_01]

19. Say that in 30 years when she's completely reshaped our society into reactionary trash

Obergefell is gone within six months. That's tragedy enough. But it's going to keep happening and happening and happening. This is a generational loss of unbelievable proportions. They've won it all.

[moose65]

43. But the Supreme Court can't just go out and "rule" on something

There has to be a case out there that works its way up to them. What case is out there right now that would undo Obergefell?

[greenjar_01]

63. My God, they have a whole industry whose only purpose is to file and fast track

legislation for right wing judicial activists. Do you think this is a fucking game? Same sex marriage will be overturned within the year, and will devolve to states. People's marriages will be unrecognized. people will be deported. This is not a game. these people are fucking serious. And then Roe.

Jesus, they basically took us back pre-1965 in voting rules. By judicial fiat. You think they won't declare same sex marriages null and void?

Get your head out of the sand. These people would kill us in the streets if they had the fucking chance. Wake up.

[moose65]

86. You don't need to berate me

I don't need to wake the fuck up, thank you very much. I know who these people are and how they operate. My head isn't in the sand, but some people seem to think that the Supreme Court just sits there in judgment and rules on things willy-nilly. They do NOT do that.

Yes, I fear for the overturn of Roe, but they probably will just chip away at it. They've got to keep the rubes voting for them. Same with same-sex marriage. They can't lose their victim status!

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

64. The Citizens United fuckery was pulled out of their asses. The case

that went in front of them was much, much narrower. So yes, they can twist cases that come to them how they see fit.

[Blue Owl]

20. Oh I think these idiots will still vote for tRump

Anything to "screw the libtards" is their mission.

However, they are the minority...

[GoCubsGo]

22. Yup. The dog who chased cars finally caught one.

I knew one of those dogs years ago. He liked to chase cars, too. One day, he chased a Ford F-250. Got a hold of one of the rear tires. Wound up underneath it. The GOP is about to meet the same fate by big, blue F-250.

[Progressive dog]

23. I wish that were true, but I doubt it.

They will have a new rationale for supporting Trump, probably had one already.

[bdamomma]

24. Just showed

McConnell reporters asking him questions did not say SHIT. He can drop tioo.

[Mr. Ected]

25. Don't forget about the hundreds of Obama appointees that they held forever

And replaced with hundreds more of their own ilk in 2016.

We simply need to mirror their use of power. When we've got it, we better use it, if for no other reason but to even the playing field again.

[Eyeball_Kid]

33. Harry Reid was too nice.

Maybe Schumer will be different. He should end the filibuster on day one and get down to business immediately.

[dhol82]

69. Schumer is an idiot. Don't see anything impressive coming out of him.

[MiniMe]

27. I agree with you, but...

I think the repukes know they will lose the senate. And once they lose the senate, they can't have an Amy Coney Barrett

[Eyeball_Kid]

30. They are still in control during the lame duck session. n/t

[Ms. Toad]

28. I suggested that the moment Trump announced a plan to fill the seat immediately. n/t

[Justice]

34. Agree, have been saying this to friends.

[Poiuyt]

35. I don't think it will matter. They'll vote for Trump just because they hate liberals so much.

[0rganism]

36. you underestimate their ambitions

the religious right doesn't just want the SCOTUS justice, that's only a means to a much larger end -- an important means to be sure, but hardly the end itself.

they're looking for the real social changes. until we have a society where minorities can be openly oppressed and refused service at will, women can be owned as chattel slaves, and teaching evolutionary biology in public school classrooms can be punished with fines and jail time, their project will continue unabated.

[misanthrope]

54. Their goal: The Gilded Age

Vast wealth discrepancy with a negligible middle class.
Jim Crow law.
Partial citizenship for white women.
No consumer protections.
No environmental protections.
No public education.
A tiny public sector with most services privatized.
That's the prize in their eyes.

[kentuck]

40. Interesting theory.

I think you may be right.

[Efilroft Sul]

42. There is no air between Trump supporters and al Qaeda pilots. None.

They would kill us all if they could, taking themselves down in the process, for their orange, bloated, lamprey-mouthed god.

[Ferrets are Cool]

44. Poppycock

They vote R because they HATE liberals, not because they love OrangeAnus. We will have to disagree vehemently on this one.

[Thekaspervote]

45. There might be a few that will just stay home, but I don't think many

[RicROC]

46. I side with Elie Mystal

Whatever he feels to deal with the SCOTUS is fine with me. Dems will try to be 'moderate' by adding 2 new Justices.
I say, Let's at 20 and start the Biden Administration right.

[Mr.Bill]

47. You are correct on that issue.

But now they will pivot to GUNZ! GUNZ! GUNZ!

I've often thought that hypothetically it the Democratic party gave up on the abortion and guns issues, the republican party would have no reason to exist. Now, I'm not saying they should, but it speaks to the fact that the rebublicans will be losing a huge reason for their base to vote for them.

[Puppyjive]

48. A disgrace to her family

I find Barrett is a disgrace to her own family. I don't think she thought of the ramifications that her family will endure. It doesn't matter to her that that the majority of the US is opposed her appointment. I don't think she is a good mother. She picked power over her family and that sends a huge message to me that she does not care about her children.

[andym]

49. That's 1 reason why the GOP is making "packing the court" such an issue

basically, Republicans want to convince evangelicals that they still need the vote GOP to prevent the Democrats from changing the game and keeping abortion legal.
Biden was smart to call for a commission to defuse this issue for now.

[StarryNite]

50. For a lot of them, their loyalty is to trump above all else.

When they look in the mirror they see trump staring back at them.

[misanthrope]

51. I thought the same

It would have been more politically advantageous to keep that carrot dangling in front of those who would hold their noses while voting for him.

[Arazi]

53. Rs need The Handmaiden to take care of the remaining election law cases. 40 +/- coming

Plus the big case coming down the pike for #Traitor when he appeals his own challenges to them

[warmfeet]

55. Fuck them all.

I really don't care what they do, except die. I am interested in that. They want me dead, return in kind.

Fuck them.

[relayerbob]

56. Nah, irrelevant

Before or after doesn't matter, it was a done deal a month ago. They. Don't. Care. There is still far more damage they perceive as needed to get Jesus to come back. Unfortunately, they will be on the very wrong side of that equation.

[Rice4VP]

57. I was telling my parents this exact thing this morning

These people are horrid and transactional just like Trump. They aren’t going to waste their time coming out to stand on a long line to vote now. Their freakish fantasies have come true

[radius777]

58. The backlash cometh. The country is center-left

as evidenced by the fact that Dems have won the popular vote in 6 of the past 7 presidential elections (and in a few days it likely will be 7 of 8) - and a hard right court will not be compatible with the views of the people. Women's rights, civil rights, workers' rights, voting rights, the environment, healthcare, science etc - are all in jeopardy.

The Repubs are a right-wing, rural party that retains power via minoritarian mechanisms, ie voter suppression, the Electoral College, the Senate, USSC, gerrymandering, etc.

[JI7]

59. Most Christians that Support Trump are Racist and don't care about Abortion

although they are anti gay. But these are reasons they will vote for him.

People who are truly anti abortion for religious reasons are very small in number and don't necessarily support Republicans. These people are also anti death penalty and support government funding for undocumented immigrants.

[Hekate]

60. Don't think so. This result is exactly what McConnell et al. have been working on for decades...

Presidents come and go, but the Supreme Court is forever. Presidents come and go, but lifetime appointments to federal judgeships are not only forever, but they are the literal pipeline to SCOTUS appointments.

Mitch McConnell held up as many federal vacancies as he could during Obama’s 8 years, then began to fill them as fast as possible once Trump was in. Moscow Mitch has managed to get two hundred (200) lifetime appointments filled.

This is McConnell’s legacy: not Trump or any other president, but swing the SCOTUS and lower courts hard right. Very hard right.

[MarcA]

62. If the USSC tries to go full throttle on a radical agenda,

destroying minority and women's rights, ending affordable healthcare, privatizing the nation, etc.
the damage done to the 99% will be so great that many will have nothing to lose and the radical
USSC and it's supporters will not have a nation to rule. The little people would lose but so would
the rulers, and that's not good for business.

[paleotn]

65. And with new Covid-19 cases mounting...

Hospitals in various parts of the country are filling up now. Imagine what it will be like by this coming weekend? I wonder how many will be too afraid to vote next Tuesday? After all, they've got 3 seats on SCOTUS now. Why not sit this one out?

[customerserviceguy]

66. I disagree

They will want Trump being the one to nominate any future SCOTUS Justices over the next four years. It is possible that Thomas may want to retire as he is now 72, and Stephen Breyer is 82, while he would clearly not retire in the next four years of a second Trump term, things happen when we're in our eighties.

They'll want Trump to serve at least two years of a second term, so that their real choice, Pence, could run for election in both 2024 and 2028.

The only election fallout among the GOP over the timing of this confirmation vote may well be that Collins doesn't get re-elected. Some Maine GOP'ers will probably think that six years of a Democratic Senator is worth getting a Republican candidate in 2026 who is more reliably right wing.

[judesedit]

67. We have to put Garland on the court in his rightful position.

Won't that just bust Moscow Mitch's sack. That wuss doesn't have any real balls.

[progree]

68. Except for one thing, Trump people don't do laundry 👀😊

Now they’ll have to decide whether they want to spend hours voting in a meaningless election or doing their laundry.

[Joinfortmill]

71. Interesting point

[panader0]

72. There was a saying or a song after WWI about the returning doughboys--

"How you gonna keep them down on the farm after they've seen Paree?"
You can try to go backwards, but it won't work. Once a person or group has had
a right, it's difficult to legislate it away. It may be possible but won't work.

[keithbvadu2]

75. Barrett will always be the Supreme Court Justice with no integrity. She got her position solely for

Barrett will always be the Supreme Court Justice with no integrity. She got her position solely for political partisanship, not her qualifications.

[Liberty Belle]

76. Nah, they'll be afraid Dems would pack the court to regain a majority.

The rabid Evangelical right wing won't vote Democratic even though their lives depend on it. Only lives of fertilized eggs count in their pea brains - not the lives of hundreds of thousands of American adults and children dying of COVID-19.

[ecstatic]

78. I initially thought they'd hold off for this very reason

Now? I don't know anymore. I don't understand reTHUGS at all. Some of them truly support and worship trump. I am worried sick about next week. I can't do another 4 years of trump.

[yuiyoshida]

79. The Republican party will pay for their mistakes... a time is coming for them

a FUCKING HUGE TSUNAMI is coming... and its gonna wash this shit away!!

[Sogo]

80. What you say is exactly what one of the CNN panel

of uncommitted voters in NC said after last week's debate:

He's pro-life, and if Barrett gets confirmed before the election, then he plans to vote for Biden.

Interesting logic....

[LeftInTX]

84. Don't agree

Trump's supporters want all the Democratic justices out too

I follow Ted Cruz's page and read their comments

[Bluepinky]

85. I think they are going to use Barrett's vote on the SC to try to steal the election.

[llmart]

87. Bingo!

Correct answer.