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Logical

(22,457 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:29 PM Sep 2012

Wow, three state trying to legalize pot for general use! But I bet none of them pass!

Colorado, Oregon and Washington have amendments on the ballot.

They seem to be polling well but so was CA and it still lost by 5 points.

Any residents of these three states have any more information? Feeling positive?



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Wow, three state trying to legalize pot for general use! But I bet none of them pass! (Original Post) Logical Sep 2012 OP
Arkansas has medical marijuana on the ballot too. BlueToTheBone Sep 2012 #1
Wow, that is shocking there. Good luck! Logical Sep 2012 #2
Medical marijuana initiatives have a very good track record. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #7
ocotber 1, the FEDS will move in Bennyboy Sep 2012 #3
Things are looking very good in Washington and Colorado, not so much in Oregon. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #4
Nice information! Thanks! n-t Logical Sep 2012 #5
It's looking good, but still kind of scary. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #6
hope Uneeque Sep 2012 #8
Even if they don't pass..... Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #9
I think Washington will almost certainly pass, and Colorado is very likely. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2012 #10
LOL, I have never done pot but might make a trip there if legal. Logical Sep 2012 #14
Arkansas janlyn Sep 2012 #11
With TWO parents who died of tobacco caused cancer Bigmack Sep 2012 #12
CO Will Pass - It's Time otohara Sep 2012 #13
I agree, otohara. Colorado's will pass. kaiden Sep 2012 #15
I hope you are right. But for some reason people get scared to vote yes closer to election. Logical Sep 2012 #17
It lost in CA because the Northern CA pot growers wanted it to be illegal. vinny9698 Sep 2012 #16
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. Medical marijuana initiatives have a very good track record.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:01 PM
Sep 2012

The only state where it has lost is South Dakota.

Initiatives won in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Maine, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Washington.

A medical marijuana initiative will win in Massachusetts on November 6.

It could happen in Arkansas, too.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
3. ocotber 1, the FEDS will move in
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:37 PM
Sep 2012

and arrest shop owners, growers etc, Big plants looks scary on TV.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. Things are looking very good in Washington and Colorado, not so much in Oregon.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:46 PM
Sep 2012

In Washington and Colorado:

--The campaigns have 10 point leads in the polls. In Washington, they're at 57%, in Colorado at 49%.
--The campaigns have lots and lots of money. $2 million in Colorado, $3 million in Washington.
--The campaigns have carefully crafted, moderate, tax and regulate initiatives.
--The campaigns have broad lists of endorsers, including many mainstream figures.
--There is very little sign of any organized opposition.

In Oregon:

--The campaign is trailing in the polls, 41% to 37%, but still very close.
--The campaign is broke, hasn't managed to garner big funder support.
--The campaign is being hammered by suspiciously timed newspaper exposes about pot trafficking under the medical program.

The best shot looks like Washington, but Colorado could well win, too. Oregon now is a longshot.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
6. It's looking good, but still kind of scary.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 01:58 PM
Sep 2012

Prop 19 in California in 2010 led in the polls up until just about this point in the election cycle.

Some differences this time:

--This is a presidential election year. Enthusiams for Obama should bring lots of pro-marijuana voters to the polls, even though Obama's position in indistinguishable from Romney's on the issue.

--Prop 19 was broke at the end. Richard Lee shot his $1 million wad getting the signatures gathered, and the campaign couldn't raise enough money to effectively advertise in the nation's largest media market. As I noted above, the Washington and Colorado campaigns are flush with cash. In swing state Colorado, where the air waves are filled with political ads, organizers did an $800,000 ad buy months ago, when rates were cheap. In Washington, they've already done one TV ad campaign and bumped upward in the polls after that. There will be plenty of money for October ad blitzes by both campaigns.

--And we're two years further down the road. Support for marijuana legalization has only increased. It's now at 50% nationwide according to the latest Gallup poll, and around 58% in the West. We're riding a wave. Yeehaw, surf's up!

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
9. Even if they don't pass.....
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:22 PM
Sep 2012

they raise public awareness and get publicity. I know it's the long slow, road, but eventually this will be fixed. The War on Drugs has been one of the worst things the American government has perpetrated in its history.

The American people are tired of it.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
10. I think Washington will almost certainly pass, and Colorado is very likely.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 02:53 PM
Sep 2012

I will be in Denver on election night. I hope it's a pot victory party.

janlyn

(735 posts)
11. Arkansas
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 03:00 PM
Sep 2012

It's on the Ballot here in Arkansas too.. But it is not likely to pass here!!

We are in the midst of the bible belt.. Enough said!

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
12. With TWO parents who died of tobacco caused cancer
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 03:28 PM
Sep 2012

I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY TOBACCO IS LEGAL AND MARIJUANA IS NOT!!!!!!!! I'm not a big user of MJ - have tried it, did inhale, don't much like being high, but I sure as hell can see ANY reason why it is illegal! As far as I'm concerned, tobacco SHOULD be illegal, but it never will be. Alas. Ms Bigmack

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
16. It lost in CA because the Northern CA pot growers wanted it to be illegal.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:02 PM
Sep 2012

Same thing with Oklahoma and prohibition. The state was the last state to reinstate alcohol, the moon shiners kept voting not to legalize alcohol.

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