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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 07:08 AM Oct 2020

Hillary Clinton had favorability polls in the mid-60's - until she became the candidate against DJT.

It was all strange and new territory, the name-calling, the insults, the racism, the misogyny, etc. The Trump campaign was a novelty campaign that could not be fully comprehended.

Hillary had rehabilitated her image after Bill's unseemly exit from the Presidency. She was highly respected by about 65% of the people, in some polls, until she was attacked by the tactics and language of Donald Trump and the Republican Party. She had been a successful and hard-working Secretary of State, although heavily criticized for the Benghazi attacks on our CIA agents, until she was called to carry the banner for the Democratic Party. Our country was not accustomed to such a style of politics, at that time.

The personal attacks and the name-calling were especially crude and disrespectful. It was not the proudest moment in American politics.

Was Hillary as disliked, as most in the media are now reporting, or was she more of a victim of character assassination by Trump and the Republicans?

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Hillary Clinton had favorability polls in the mid-60's - until she became the candidate against DJT. (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2020 OP
Thank you, but she was a victim of character assassination from not just Trump and Republicans. betsuni Oct 2020 #1
Yes Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #11
HOLD THEIR NOSE..... I DON'T THINK SO groundloop Oct 2020 #14
+1 and the primary all the way thru. LizBeth Oct 2020 #15
you need to review the approval record, Hillary was 50% and under beachbumbob Oct 2020 #2
And this: kentuck Oct 2020 #3
She had a great approval rating when she left her SoS job NewJeffCT Oct 2020 #5
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2020 #12
Look at the data in the second article karynnj Oct 2020 #7
As soon as it became apparent that she'd run in 2013, her favorability dropped Arazi Oct 2020 #13
She was attacked just as viciously by the Bernie Bros, remember Susan Sarandon? Happyhippychick Oct 2020 #4
THIS AmericanCanuck Oct 2020 #8
She was wrongfully lied about and maligned WyLoochka Oct 2020 #6
Definitely a Victim of Character Assassination from the Right AND the Left Skraxx Oct 2020 #9
+1 LizBeth Oct 2020 #16
misogyny jcgoldie Oct 2020 #10
K&R Character Assassination and those in the media jealous of her popularity ffr Oct 2020 #17

betsuni

(25,138 posts)
1. Thank you, but she was a victim of character assassination from not just Trump and Republicans.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 07:30 AM
Oct 2020

Corrupt, neoliberal, status quo, Wall St., corporatist, establishment, third way, elite, centrist, identity politics, ideologically and morally bankrupt, beholden to the "donor class" and oligarchs and lobbyists, lesser of two evils, racist, warmonger, weathervane, liar, etc. That wasn't coming from Republicans.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,355 posts)
11. Yes
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:11 AM
Oct 2020

She was hated pretty equally by the far left and far right. Biden is not liked much by the left either but more people are willing to hold their nose to vote for him to get rid of Trump.

groundloop

(11,488 posts)
14. HOLD THEIR NOSE..... I DON'T THINK SO
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:22 AM
Oct 2020

I resent it when people claim their 'holding their nose' to vote for Biden, and it doesn't do us any favors. That statement is right up there with claiming that both parties are the same, or that Biden is only marginally better than tRump.

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
5. She had a great approval rating when she left her SoS job
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:42 AM
Oct 2020

and then Republicans went to work attacking her because they knew she was the presumptive favorite to win in 2016.

The Benghazi machine cranked up over the next 3-4 years to throw red meat to the GOP base, drive up fundraising and all the noise from the GOP eventually crept into the maintream.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,355 posts)
12. +1
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:15 AM
Oct 2020

And Republicans (I think including Meadows) flat out admitted that that was the intended result of all of their Benghazi conspiracy theory-mongering.

karynnj

(59,475 posts)
7. Look at the data in the second article
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:34 AM
Oct 2020

There was a strong downward slope in favorability and increase in not favorable starting in 2013. The article speaks of 2015-2016, but the turning point is very clearly 2013. Incidentally, had they said 2013-2016 the point would still have been the same. Though she announced in 2015, there was no question that she was almost certain to run starting in 2013.

In 2013, few would have thought Trump would be the Republican nominee.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
13. As soon as it became apparent that she'd run in 2013, her favorability dropped
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:17 AM
Oct 2020

It's one thing to be a public servant, an entirely other thing to be President.

A lot of people just viscerally did not want her to be President. She (and her most fervent supporters) would never acknowledge that.

Still can't

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
4. She was attacked just as viciously by the Bernie Bros, remember Susan Sarandon?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:31 AM
Oct 2020

Trump and the Republicans didn’t need to do a thing when they had people like her attacking Hillary at every chance.

WyLoochka

(1,629 posts)
6. She was wrongfully lied about and maligned
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:13 AM
Oct 2020

She had a very high favorability rating after working hard as a Senator and serving with distinction as Secretary of State. Trey Gowdy and other Repubs said the relentless hammering on Benghazi and emails was specifically drummed up in order to bring her ratings down.

The viciousness worked. I am dismayed at the number of people who rally in support of cruelty. It is still working with far too many. Americans are becoming known as mean people. We will be pariahs in the world if we can't overcome the mean November 3.

Skraxx

(2,965 posts)
9. Definitely a Victim of Character Assassination from the Right AND the Left
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:00 AM
Oct 2020

I was incredibly disappointed in A LOT of Dems and people on the left who bought into it. It was revolting.

jcgoldie

(11,584 posts)
10. misogyny
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:02 AM
Oct 2020

Sure her approval ratings were in the 60s until that uppity woman had the gall think she could run for president....

ffr

(22,649 posts)
17. K&R Character Assassination and those in the media jealous of her popularity
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:01 PM
Oct 2020

Plus the horserace stories they kept at until people began believing that same E-mail story must be true, it's all the news outlets, all of the news outlets (Andrea Mitchell) were talking about.

Not one positive story about the fact, as you mention, her rock star popularity when she's in office. People are certainly okay with her then, just not as a candidate, Andrea?

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