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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't believe the DMR/Selzer poll. Too much of a swing by independents in one month.
See the DMR story:
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2020/10/31/election-2020-iowa-poll-president-donald-trump-leads-joe-biden/6061937002/
In the Registers September Iowa Poll, Biden led with independents 50% to 38%. But today, Trump wins them back and leads 49% to 35%.
I think that the key to what's happening with President Trump is that he is leading with independents, Selzer said. That is a group that in Iowa in our September poll looked like it was swinging to Joe Biden, and it's come back to be a Trump asset.
I think Iowa will be very close. But I don't see ANY reason why it would have gone from a tie a month ago to a 7-point Trump lead now.

exboyfil
(18,222 posts)That poll was very accurate last time. I think Trump/Ernst are outspending Biden/Greenfield in the ads which I see (I only watch regular tv during NFL games, otherwise it is Hulu ads or Youtube ads). I don't know if we are spending enough on Hulu or Youtube.
LizBeth
(11,191 posts)rso
(2,557 posts)Yeah, seems inaccurate.
Thekaspervote
(35,631 posts)Just_Vote_Dem
(3,272 posts)As it's only 6 electoral votes, I'm not panicking.
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PTWB
(4,131 posts)Theyre very different groups.
Jamesyu
(259 posts)That shows Trump with a wide lead in Iowa, I remember in 2016 a lot more polls agreed with them like Manmouth and NBC also had Trump +8 and 7 which are also A + polls. This time they are + 3 and tied so who knows who is right.
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)Or theyve gotten a funky sample and therefore an odd result this time around.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)41 in recent national poll October 15-27 as opposed to 35 in prior poll September 30-October 14
What the hell happened? Independents were always going to decide this thing
I noted the switch from 35 to 41 but assumed it was still low enough
Tribetime
(6,550 posts)highplainsdem
(55,892 posts)And not just because of independents. Selzer found an unexplained percentage of women moving back to Trump from Biden, in just one month.
A small sampling:
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Thekaspervote
(35,631 posts)This has been the single most stable race in political history. Why would IA suddenly swing so wildly?
Does anyone but me remember how wildly the polls swung in IA during the primary? Biden would be up by 5 then down by 7.
The DMR did not correctly call the last 2 dem prez primaries.
Fiendish Thingy
(19,266 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)538 has called her the best pollster in the country. She made her name predicting Obama to win the caucus in 2008.
That said, even the best of the best pollsters can and do make mistakes and have outliers. Thats one of the reasons theyre the best - they dont ever put their thumb on the scale.
This poll isnt guaranteed to be accurate but there is just no way to spin it as anything but horrible news.
Indykatie
(3,857 posts)Why are so many people freaking out about a single bad Iowa poll? We Dems can't help but elevate mole hills into mountains sometimes. The Media and pundits are hyping the IA poll like its the end all be all for Biden and it aint. Same applies to FL and the Miami/Dade Hispanic vote.