Pro Trump caravan, escorted by police, tried to intimidate voters in Ft. Worth.

[Nevilledog]

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David Kimball
@wxandnews
Yesterday, a pro Trump caravan, escorted by Fort Worth police, tried to intimidate voters by driving through a polling station in a predominantly Black neighborhood. But the community wasn’t having it.

[ananda]

1. Well done, voters!

Good

[LizBeth]

2. Good for them. Fuck the cops.

[tulipsandroses]

3. Tell me again how white people are supposed to be scared because black people are going to invade

their neighborhoods? Here You have MAGATS driving through black neighborhoods with trump flags and AR15s and police escorts. But its " white suburban housewives" that should be scared of BLM and ANTIFA?

[iluvtennis]

16. Exactly. The hypocrisy is stifling. nt

[soldierant]

23. The projection ...

not that projection isn't a form of hypocrisy.

[iluvtennis]

32. + agree.nt

[Cha]

4. Rt for Democracy!

[madaboutharry]

5. Another video clip that makes me want to move to another country.

Seeing this breaks my heart.

I just can't get my head around this kind of behavior. The only reason these people would drive through other peoples' neighborhood in their pick-up trucks with their stupid Trump flags is because all they have in their hearts is hate.

[Celerity]

9. I live in another country and this all is just stressing me the fuck out

An America ripping itself apart within the next 20 years max (if not far before) is the biggest threat to the planet in history (the Nazis and the Japanese had no nukes (they were starting to get close though).

[localroger]

12. For the record, neither the Nazis nor the Empire of the Sun where anywhere near having nukes

The Nazis had only one measurement for the neutron cross-section of carbon which was erroneous, causing them to rule it out as a possible moderator for reactors, and our allies blew up their last heavy water plant. They never had a reactor that sustained a chain reaction and even if they had, they had nowhere near the resources we needed to apply to turn that accomplishment into a weapon. As for the Japanese, the few people they had working on atomic science were mostly doing it to avoid their own military draft, and had no hope of even building something that might resemble a reactor.

[Celerity]

13. WaPo - How Nazi Germany got a lot closer to building a nuclear weapon in WWII

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/how-nazi-germany-got-a-lot-closer-to-building-a-nuclear-weapon-in-wwii/2019/05/10/3181c168-71b2-11e9-8be0-ca575670e91c_story.html

A cube of uranium. A Nazi plan to build a nuclear bomb. A search for the fate of the remaining pieces of an experiment that might have altered history. It sounds like a basis for a war thriller. Instead, the story appears in the latest issue of Physics Today, the membership magazine of the American Institute of Physics. It’s the tale of 664 uranium cubes produced by researchers in Nazi Germany. They sought to crack the nuclear code in a subterranean laboratory in the “atom cellar” of a castle in Haigerloch. But the experiment failed.

When a two-inch cube from the failed reactor made its way to Timothy Koeth, a physicist at the University of Maryland at College Park, his curiosity was piqued. Miriam Hiebert, a doctoral student in the materials sciences and engineering program there, volunteered to help him learn more about its past...........................

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Instead of pooling its resources, Nazi Germany split the researchers into three competing teams, and the very contest the Germans thought would fuel innovation ended up stifling it.

But they came much closer to a nuclear weapon than scholars previously thought.

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[localroger]

28. Article is misleading

What it implies is that the Nazis were closer to having a nuclear reactor than we thought. A nuclear reactor isn't an atomic bomb though, it's just the very first step. What this implies is that while we never thought they even got across the starting line, they were close to actually making a lap -- of the Indianapolis 500.

[Celerity]

33. You twisted my words, that article backs me up

[Celerity]

15. LA Times - New evidence of Japan's effort to build atom bomb at the end of WWII

https://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-japan-bomb-20150805-story.html

Reporting from Tokyo — In August 1945, the U.S. dropped atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Now, as Japan and the rest of the world prepare to mark seven decades since the end of World War II in the Pacific, new evidence has emerged about the Japanese military’s own secret program to build a nuclear weapon.

A retired professor at the state-run Kyoto University recently discovered a blueprint at the school’s former Radioisotope Research lab, Japan’s Sankei newspaper and other local media reported recently.

The notebooks were related to research work by Bunsaku Arakatsu, a professor at the university whom Sankei said was asked by the Japanese navy to develop an atomic bomb during the war.

Also found were drawings of a turbine-based centrifuge apparently to be used for the study of uranium enrichment. It was dated March 1945. Another blueprint was found of a centrifuge that a Japanese company, Tokyo Keiki, was producing, with a notation indicating the device was scheduled to be completed Aug. 19, 1945 — four days after Japan announced that it was surrendering.

Experts say the material buttresses information contained in U.S. archives and casts light on the direction the research was headed. For some, the documents also have contemporary resonance, and are a painful reminder that Japan was headed toward developing the same kind of intensely destructive weapons the United States had.

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[localroger]

29. Even more misleading

So the Japanese didn't even almost have a reactor, they had a drawing of the racetrack and a prototype Soapbox Derby car.

The US poured truly vast resources into creating the Bomb, spending around USD $2 billion in 1945 dollars to do it. Even if someone had used a time machine to give both of them blueprints for Little Boy and fifty kilos of enriched Uranium neither axis power had the resources to complete the project This is very well documented in Richard Rhodes' The Making of the Atomic Bomb. All things considered I choose to believe the guy who got a Pulitzer Prize and National Book Award.

I suppose this historic revisionism which always comes up is driven by an uncomfortable realization that in any objective evaluation of the events of WWII, the creation of the Bomb which led to the Cold War and several titanic nuclear disasters is almost entirely our fault and was in no way ever a good idea. Leo Szilard, who had the original idea for the nuclear chain reaction, warned everyone that even to test the bomb was tantamount to giving it to our enemies -- which turned out to be true. It turns out the true secret of the atomic bomb is that it is possible to build them at all, as without that certain knowledge no sane person would expend the resources necessary to make a realistic stab at it. On the other hand once your neighbor is setting them off it becomes worth whatever expense is necessary to be able to mount a defense, and so the Soviets with far more limited resources than we had got their bomb in just a few years.

[Celerity]

34. You twisted my words, that article backs me up

[ProfessorGAC]

30. They Were Not Remotely Close

This article talks about their blueprints & one(!) centrifuge in production.
With that method, they would have needed a couple hundred centrifuges, so 1 unfinished device means they were less than 0.5% of the way toward having the production infrastructure.
They were also woefully short of uranium ore, so getting the multiple kilogram mass at 96% or higher purity was unlikely to occur in under a decade.
Lastly, the no longer had the economic resources to build the rest of the manufacturing capability.
I could get the blue prints to build a 747, but it doesn't mean I could actually build one.
This article merely confirms that Japan had a program to attempt building a weapon. We pretty much knew that, but this confirms that belief
Neither the Germans nor the Japanese were even close.

[Celerity]

35. The poster I replied to twisted my words, these articles back up what I actually said

[ProfessorGAC]

36. I Read Them

They do not fully support your contention.
Were they working on a nuke? Obviously, yes. They had plans & blueprints.
Did they have a small lump of uranium? Yes. Was it enough for a device in those days? No.
Were they building an enrichment centrifuge? Yes. One, not yet finished when they needed 15 or 20 dozen.
On many prior readings on this subject, their plan was a gun barrel U-235 based device like Little Boy. Little Boy had 140+ pounds of 98.7% enriched U-235. The cube mentioned in one of the cites would have weigh roughly a pound. The technology didn't exist then to get 1 pound to critical mass.
As to the economic infrastructure, the Manhattan Project cost about 0.7% of the entire expenditure for WW2. Japan only had a GDP of about $24 billion. They were already spending 75% of GDP on the war.
They didn't have another 8% to do what the US had.
They also lacked the electrical infrastructure to process all that uranium due to the bombing campaigns.
Lastly, raw material was a gigantic problem. It requires 140# of high quality ore to get 1# of 90% or higher fissile product.
They did not have access to a ton of quality ore. It's very rare in Japan, and they didn't have control, after 1942, of any region with reasonable ore deposits.
Your cites clearly confirm they had a plan, understood the science, and were actively pursuing a nuclear weapon.
They don't cover feasibility or probability of success.
If they had the money, they were at least 3 years away (likely closer to 5), and they didn't have the economic resources.
They were not even close.

[Celerity]

37. Starting to does not equate to imminent nt

[angstlessk]

6. Those cops should be fired! n/t

[MagickMuffin]

7. My hometown, disgusted!

Hey Mayor Price: What ya gonna do about voter intimidation?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Too many low-info rednecks here :(. Sad to say

[Takket]

10. i'd like to drive through some lines of drumpf voters with my Biden Harris flag

can anyone tell me who i call to arrange a police escort for my voter intimidation efforts?

[orleans]

17. thanks for the chuckle. very well said my friend

[Pepsidog]

11. Get your bitch ass out of here for good. Trump Trash.

[JohnnyRingo]

14. That was weird.

I wonder what the Trumpies expected. There are only so many scenarios one could play out in the mind. Maybe because they had cops with them (that made it weird) they thought they would cause the black people to go loot something. I don't know.

[RussBLib]

18. Escorted by police?

Seriously, wtf?

[irisblue]

19. I bet the trumper in the SUV had to powerwash the drivers seat. It is not the 1950s trumper

[orangecrush]

20. History repeating itself

Back to the days of cops with dogs and fire hoses attacking black civil rights protestors.

Trump told them the "good old days" were back.

2 more days and the bill comes due.

And when democrats retake the country, this must not go unanswered and unpunished.

[panfluteman]

21. The Worst Part About It All Is That the Ft. Worth Cops Were Complicit in Voter Intimidation

So much for all that "protect and serve" BS.

[yellowdogintexas]

27. If they had not been there to provide a barrier, there could have been a serious incident

Those guys would have "felt threatened" by the crowd, jumped off that truck, proboably showing arms and basically started a riot which was their intent. Serious injuries and possibly deaths would have been the result. The police surrounded the truck to keep them in check ; they were there to provide a barrier between the two groups.Those rednecks are just itching to start up a war - Pumpkin Spice Pol Pot has revved them up so tightly they would have blown gaskets on that crowd if those police officers had not been there.

This past week there have been several incidents with this crowd, they even stopped the campaign bus on the interstate. They have caused trouble all along the route that bus was taking. There were memes on Facebook calling them in to 'welcome' Kamala to Fort Worth yesterday. Scary.

Tuesday is going to be a very hairy day. I am glad I am not an election judge this time. Watching that bunch of assholes parade around all week has me worried about our polling locations. I expect to see stuff like this all day Tuesday; probably in the largely minority areas. We have 300 voting locations and that will spread the police pretty thin.

I have seen the FWPD do this when we had protest marches; get between us and any hecklers - form a human barrier between us and the hecklers. They have never been anything but polite to us and have kept people from bothering us.

It is much more disturbing that these maggots are on the verge of exploding. I think the voters were more upset that they were there than the police.

One time we had a bunch of awful hecklers at a march; the law enforcement officers (county constables and city police) told us they could not make them leave as long as they stayed on the courthouse lawn, but if they stepped out into our permitted area (the street, for our protest) they would locke them up. So they kept getting more and more obnoxious so the police and sheriff dept guys encircled them and kept them isolated so we could go on and do what we came to do.

I also watched a group of cops surround a man almost twice their size and walk him away from us because he was threatening us. That was another situation that could have gotten nasty real fast if they had not been there.

[Rice4VP]

22. And they wonder why people want them to be defunded...

Pathetic!

[Crowman2009]

26. +1

[BobTheSubgenius]

24. Shortly after the 2016 election, I predicted that there would be gunfire in the streets.

I have to admit, it was partly facetious, but there was a large component of sincerity. I truly believed it, but didn't want to appear like Chicken Little, I guess, so I diffused my opinion with some dark humour.

I am now horrified, because stories like this are how it will start. Imagine a Democrat in that situation exercising his or her 2nd Amendment rights, and decided to just pull it, not intending to shoot anyone, but advertising that they were not helpless. A trigger-happy hillbilly sees it and lets a shot go.

And it's on.

I know. It's a little far-fetched...but in what way do you find it far-fetched? That one of the Democratic supporters would be the one to pull a concealed weapon? I find the other half of the equation totally believable.

I need another glass of Shiraz and a good Netfiix doc, all in my so-comfy bed. I'm more rattled than I thought I'd be.

[tulipsandroses]

41. Not a far fetched scenario at all. This wasn't the first incident of these knuckleheads going

into a black neighborhood. There was one report I read, where they actually scared off elderly voters. I am concerned about the members of the community. Its admirable what they did here, forcing them to turn the truck around and leave. I am worried though about things escalating. Who protects these community members, if things get out of hand and they do exercise their 2nd amendment rights to defend themselves and their community?

[MustLoveBeagles]

25. Wow

I'm disgusted with the behavior of the trump humpers and the cops. I'm glad that the residents didn't put up with their BS.

[Vivienne235729]

31. Proving once again why law enforcement needs to be fumigated

This is terrible and whoever was involved need to have their badges removed.

[BusyBeingBest]

38. Get yo ass outta here!

He speaks for all of us.

[Blue Owl]

39. K&R

[dalton99a]

40. Nazis protecting Nazis.