DMR's final poll had Obama winning Iowa by 17 in 2008. He won it by 9.

[Drunken Irishman]

[Jamesyu]

1. Yup they have been wrong in the past before

[Sogo]

2. Thank you for that perspective....

Now everybody exhale!!

[writes3000]

3. Yes, let's make more posts fixating on one Iowa poll. Wasn't your last OP about the Iowa poll?

Seems like this could have gone there.

[Drunken Irishman]

4. Thanks for the bump!

[writes3000]

8. More attention! More!

[Drunken Irishman]

14. Thanks again!

It is fascinating that my multiple positive threads are ignored:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214402302

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214402635

[MustLoveBeagles]

22. Thank you

I bumped those threads.

[Thekaspervote]

13. Thank you!! Classic example of one poll in a red state surrounded by very red states

And suddenly the upper MW is collapsing despite no reason to think so

For those still worried, please read this twitter thread

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Demonaut]

5. have another drink ..or ten

[Thekaspervote]

6. The DMR incorrectly predicted the last 2 dem primaries

[Drunken Irishman]

7. I do find caucuses are much more challenging to predict.

[Thekaspervote]

15. Agree... but one would think if they live in the state, are the gold standard they would have better

Methods to accurately predict their caucus..or stop predicting the outcome

[smirkymonkey]

9. Thanks for all your downer posts.

Really appreciated.

[Drunken Irishman]

12. lmao how is this a downer post? It just shows their poll can be widely off.

If you find that to be a downer post, that's not my problem.

[smirkymonkey]

17. You just seem to delight in posting information about negative Biden polls.

It's been pretty consistent with you. We don't really need to hear it. Spare us the doom and gloom.

There is nothing productive that can come from your posts. They are unnecessary. Just stop it.

[Drunken Irishman]

18. This just isn't true.

In the last week:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214402635

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214389455

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214386380

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214386389

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214382679

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214379239

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214379000

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214374198

All within the last week. I post polls.

But if you don't like my posts, go ahead and put me on ignore. It's not fucking hard, so, stop pretending I am forcing you to ready my posts.

The fact you think I only post negative polls, when in the last week a strong majority of my posts have been positive, tells me YOU have an ax to grind. Well, as I said, that's not my problem. Suck it up or put me on ignore.

[smirkymonkey]

19. Ok. Point taken.

I did not see your other polls, I only saw your negative ones, so my bad. I am sorry. My apologies. I was wrong.

But please try not to discourage us by posting the negative ones. They are not doing any good. I am sorry I missed your other posts. I know that it's best to know the truth, but right now, we need all the good news we can get. We are only a few days away from the election and I think most of us have voted already.

I appreciate your information, but it would just be nicer if we didn't have to hear anything discouraging right now, even if it is true. A lot of us are having a hard time with this. You probably are too. If you can, try to post the most positive things to keep our spirits up. It would really help right now. Thanks and again, my apologies.

[Drunken Irishman]

20. No one ever replies to my positive posts.

The only posts that get a response are ones that aren't glowing.

Spoiler alert: Unless I am beat to it, I'll be posting the ABC News/Washington Post polls that are coming out in a few minutes regardless if they're good for Biden or not. I post polls because I think it's important to not get caught up on one or two good polls while ignoring the bad polls. I started doing this after 2004 when it seemed only the rosy Kerry polls were posted and all the positive Bush polls were ignored and then on election day, everyone was floored Bush won despite a lot of polls pointing to it. I think it's good to have a context of all polls, good or bad, to get a reference of what we're looking at Tuesday.

Trust me. I don't do it to doom and gloom. I don't like doom and gloom posts that are rooted in essentially speculation (like OMG THEY'RE GONNA STEAL THE ELECTION!) but to me polls aren't speculation. They're just another layer to an already established point.

[smirkymonkey]

21. I suppose that is why that is the only ones i see.

Because you only get responses to the negative polls and they get kicked to the top. I honestly was not aware of your other posts because I didn't see them. Again, I am sorry. I was not aware of your other posts and was just reacting out of fear and anxiety. Please forgive me. It was wrong of me and I know that now.

[tormadjax]

10. How can we believe ANY of these polls or data points?! I'm even more confused than usual! n/t

[BainsBane]

11. Iowa isn't necessary

for a Biden win. The polling average has Trump up 0.6, but I believe the internal Democratic polls show Biden ahead (just an impression I got from an organizer). Still, Biden has plenty of paths to victory without Iowa.

[GeorgeGist]

16. Who can forget...

Dewey defeats Truman.