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What's Bill Clinton up to these days? (Original Post) Dr. Jack Oct 2020 OP
While I like both Hillary and Bill Clinton, I think it's best for them to stay out of sight. Claustrum Oct 2020 #1
Definitely. n/t shrike3 Oct 2020 #8
No one likes Bill Clinton anymore. He's seen as a liability. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #2
I still like Bill. But I'm obviously one voter. shrike3 Oct 2020 #4
I like Bill too. I mean, when I say 'no body' I mean in general. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #7
True, it is a different era. shrike3 Oct 2020 #11
Definitely. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #14
I feel bad for him as well. He did work his tail off for Obama. shrike3 Oct 2020 #16
I really have not thought of them. tormadjax Oct 2020 #3
Hillary is doing online events BainsBane Oct 2020 #9
Ok, thx n/t tormadjax Oct 2020 #10
Hillary is involved in some virtual fundraising events BainsBane Oct 2020 #5
I don't think Bill's health is very good. Those times I have seen him, he's looked very frail. shrike3 Oct 2020 #6
I spent a little time with him backstage at an event in 2016 and he was fine then. PTWB Oct 2020 #12
He just looks frail to me. I'm glad to hear he was hale and hearty when you met him. shrike3 Oct 2020 #13
I believe that Bill has gone full Vegan. That is ok, but a person has to watch food Blue_true Oct 2020 #21
I'm sure he has the best people advising him on diet. Again, this is purely my observation. shrike3 Oct 2020 #23
All declared Vegans that I have known looked frail to me. Blue_true Oct 2020 #25
You know, I've noticed the same thing. They all look frail. n/t shrike3 Oct 2020 #26
I would guess that their body fat is very low. Sometimes that isn't a good thing. nt Blue_true Oct 2020 #27
Maybe n/t shrike3 Oct 2020 #28
Carter has NOT been MIA . HE is old and also high risk if he got Covi . But he speaks out from home JI7 Oct 2020 #20
He hasn't been stumping though or doing fund raisers. MIA was a poor choice of words shrike3 Oct 2020 #22
He spoke at the convention in August. SharonClark Oct 2020 #15
He did a great job. n/t shrike3 Oct 2020 #17
Hopefully, he and Hillary have massive amounts of security around them. spanone Oct 2020 #18
Covid and he is high risk so i'm sure he isn't doing much in going out right now. JI7 Oct 2020 #19
Nope. Iggo Oct 2020 #24
I watched a recent episode of West Wing Jamaal510 Oct 2020 #29

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
1. While I like both Hillary and Bill Clinton, I think it's best for them to stay out of sight.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:48 PM
Oct 2020

No need to bring the "Clinton hate" in.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
2. No one likes Bill Clinton anymore. He's seen as a liability.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:49 PM
Oct 2020

Especially in the #MeToo era when the Democrats are going after Trump's character - parading around Bill Clinton, who has been linked to Epstein just like Trump, is not the look we need at this point. Plus, his coalition, unfortunately for him, is dead. The voters he used to bring to the table are likely already solidly Democratic, and therefore easily persuadable by guys like Obama, Warren and Bernie, or they've long gone GOP and aren't ever coming back.

shrike3

(3,486 posts)
4. I still like Bill. But I'm obviously one voter.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:50 PM
Oct 2020

I think it's wise, given what happened in 2016, for them to stay away.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
7. I like Bill too. I mean, when I say 'no body' I mean in general.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:52 PM
Oct 2020

He's the one guy whose favorability numbers post-presidency actually have slipped as opposed to improved like with Carter and Bush.

shrike3

(3,486 posts)
11. True, it is a different era.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:55 PM
Oct 2020

However, I think his achievements are lasting. He seems very well thought of internationally. When we travel and U.S. politics are discussed, Clinton invariably gets a thumbs-up. Brilliant, charming and interested in everything. Someone told me that Bill always buys the first round when he's out. His statue is still up in Ireland, re the Dayton Peace Accords, so far as I know.
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. Definitely.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:01 PM
Oct 2020

Bill will probably be seen in better light for future generations. But he's too close to his scandals and the cloud of sexual harassment/seedy connections, for it to be realized. In 20+ years, I suspect we'll think differently of him.

It's weird. Much like his presidency, his post-presidency has been filled with major ups and downs. When he left the White House, he was dinged pretty hard for the pardons and the rumors that his staff destroyed furniture on their way out (I think the only major thing they actually did do was steal the W keys off the keyboards, which is kinda funny). But he bounced back around 2004, when he had his open heart surgery, and really looked like the party's elder statesman again, especially when he and H.W. Bush worked together on the tsunami relief and then Katrina...until 2008 tainted his legacy a bit during the primaries with Obama and people questioned a lot of his comments that felt kind of borderline racist. Then in 2012, he was probably at the height of his post-presidency. He was such a valuable asset to Obama's reelection. He gave a barn burner of a speech at the DNC and worked his tail off to get him reelected.

It's been all down hill since. I feel bad for him.

shrike3

(3,486 posts)
16. I feel bad for him as well. He did work his tail off for Obama.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:06 PM
Oct 2020

Clinton's economy was the first time in my adult life I really felt like I was getting ahead. I'll always be grateful for that.

But you're right, things change. The tides may turn again. He's only in his 70s.

In the meantime, it's good he's staying away. Good pol that he is, I'm sure he understands.

btw, I had heard Hillary's handlers blew off his advice in 2016. ("Go to Wisconsin," he said.) One of the best political minds of his generation, but they knew better.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
9. Hillary is doing online events
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:53 PM
Oct 2020

fundraising and GOTV. I love Hillary, but many don't feel that way, so it's probably best she hasn't gone on the road.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
5. Hillary is involved in some virtual fundraising events
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:51 PM
Oct 2020

I attended one. I haven't seen Bill in ages, and I think it's for the best.

shrike3

(3,486 posts)
6. I don't think Bill's health is very good. Those times I have seen him, he's looked very frail.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:52 PM
Oct 2020

I can't imagine he'd be up to campaigning.

Also, Jimmy Carter and George W. Bush have been MIA.
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
12. I spent a little time with him backstage at an event in 2016 and he was fine then.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:57 PM
Oct 2020

Just some anecdotal evidence.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. I believe that Bill has gone full Vegan. That is ok, but a person has to watch food
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:40 PM
Oct 2020

intake to insure that all important and minorly important nutrients are being taken in sufficient amounts.

shrike3

(3,486 posts)
23. I'm sure he has the best people advising him on diet. Again, this is purely my observation.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:42 PM
Oct 2020

He looks frail to me. But then, I remember the Clinton who loved Big Macs and was always a little chubby, so there's that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. All declared Vegans that I have known looked frail to me.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:47 PM
Oct 2020

I have never met a declared meat-only eater and frankly don’t want to, so I have no way of comparing the two.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
20. Carter has NOT been MIA . HE is old and also high risk if he got Covi . But he speaks out from home
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:38 PM
Oct 2020

shrike3

(3,486 posts)
22. He hasn't been stumping though or doing fund raisers. MIA was a poor choice of words
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:40 PM
Oct 2020

"Not on the campaign trail" would have been a better choice. He certainly has valid reasons, as you pointed out.
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