General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFauci just struck a decisive blow to Trump
What he just did, publicly breaking with Trump and sounding the alarm, is way more devastating than what Comey pulled on Clinton 11 days before the election I think. Imagine if you were pro Trump and this dropped in the closing days? They must be irate and panicking. There is natural anxiety because even though it looks good, we wont rest easy until its really over and we are victorious. This is good. It drives people to act and if our goal was to bank our votes ahead of time to avoid any imperial entanglements, drive early voter turnout through the roof and bring in a ton Democratic voters who sat out 2016, I am pleased with what I am seeing and proud of all those who worked so hard to achieve this remarkable feat. Go team blue! Full pedal to the metal and lets finish strong!
Alacritous Crier
(3,804 posts)Well done, Fauci... Well done, Obama!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Maybe only magats do
cwydro
(51,308 posts)He shouldve spoken out long ago.
JI7
(89,173 posts)huge headlines "BREAKING NEWS , CLINTON EMAIL EMAIL EMAILS ........................."
mucifer
(23,373 posts)Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)jaxexpat
(6,702 posts)He's certainly not the first or only to stand in mute horror beside the "stupid kabuki" of "showman" Trump. If you have a long lived and highly respected career as an expert "anything" in the federal monolith, you're not expecting total ass-hattery from the oval office. Especially when you appear, even only as a prop, to help provide legitimacy for some inscrutable plan. You might even be inclined to go along so as to aid the executive to, as you are able, deal with a pandemic because it's, like, your duty. But even now he's not gone totally up front, full blown righteously outraged. A very constrained (non-political my ass)Republican is our Fauci. Who for too long let the whole truth hang out to dry and it's too late to remedy that. History will not leave him unscathed. By his proximity will his acquiescence be discerned as complicity. A perfect example of bureaucratic "Peter Principle" in action.
Another casualty of the "perfect storm" which yet blows. Except this one isn't anonymous.
Squinch
(50,773 posts)a long, long time ago.
Now that it won't make any difference, lots of folks are getting very chatty so they are on the record as having disagreed with Donny Bodybags.
I find it creepy and cowardly.
mucifer
(23,373 posts)more would die if he spoke out against trump earlier and was fired.
I sure don't envy him being in that position
secondwind
(16,903 posts)getagrip_already
(14,249 posts)He is a weasel and coward. He SHOULD have spoken out from day 1, either in the administration or outside of it.
Imagine a daily fauci spot telling the unvarnished scientif facts without trump shutting him up and moving some clown in to talk.
He blew it for selfish reasons. He wanted to keep his job.
Fire him with the rest and let him go on a talk show. It's all he deserves at this point.
Let's not forget it was his arrogance - believing chinese labs could enhance the virus and control it - that funded the science that could have caused this.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)every time he appeared.
If he was OUTSIDE the administration, his word would have carried more weight. As it is, he just hemmed and hawed, dancing around the truth. He hurt his reputation greatly. He was only slightly better than the scarf lady, Dr. Birx, who was a bona fide embarrassment to the medical community.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)100%!
I lost respect for him months ago.
paleotn
(17,778 posts)and rationally decide "this is what I would do" before losing respect. Sure, go balls to the wall, get fired and labeled as an alarmist crank most Americans won't listen to anymore. You have to take into account that most Americans are fucking idiots and tread accordingly.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But even she thinks this is too little, too late.
I think he enjoys the fame just a wee bit too much.
paleotn
(17,778 posts)I don't envy him. I'd hate to be in his shoes through this catastrophe. But for Tuesday voters, if he gives some a moment of pause before pulling the R lever, it's worth it.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Ill take it!
paleotn
(17,778 posts)Does he go all out and risk getting replaced by someone as nutty as Atlas? Or does he do what he can to mitigate as much damage as possible without risking getting booted by the orange lunatic? It's not an easy call for him or Birx. With the country literally on the precipice of burning to the ground, maybe he just had enough and figured it was time to gut the son of a bitch.
paleotn
(17,778 posts)Three or four weeks ago, new cases were lower than the summer peak. He might have felt he would be seen as an alarmist and loose credibility in the face of a full on Donnie attack. He might have feared losing his job would open the door to more nutty yes men like Atlas. That part might still be the case. People in this country have to have reality literally shoved in their goddamn faces to get their attention. They're finally seeing reality now. Reality experts have been warning about for months. Welcome to the greatest nation of unthinking clods the world has ever seen.
thesquanderer
(11,954 posts)And even then, some right-wingers have already written him off.
Plus at this point, it looks like more than half of those who are going to vote have probably already voted.
But I suppose it could still have some impact, and every bit helps.
doc03
(35,148 posts)search and see if I can find out.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)I don't know either. It's 5:46 on the left coast so the right side of the country has a 3 hour head start.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)The Trump supporters I know do not like nor do they believe in Fauci.
mnmoderatedem
(3,706 posts)by this time, minds have mostly been made up. And trumpanzees have already demonized Fauci enough by now so that few will be swayed at this point.
Probably the only real effect is that Fauci will need to beef up his personal security even more, as the trumpanzees will ratchet up more death threats. It's what they do after all.
thesquanderer
(11,954 posts)Delarage
(2,182 posts)I hadn't heard anything
helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)helpisontheway
(5,004 posts)Delarage
(2,182 posts)I'll read that after church.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:11 AM - Edit history (1)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142617999beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,787 posts)We know that diehard tRumpanzees are a lost cause.
The OP said that they would be panicked, with the implication that it is not to change their vote but from worry that others would.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)of little importance for the election outcome
Tarc
(10,472 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,787 posts)luv2fly
(2,475 posts)Nothing about his comments makes a difference to anyone. Trump supporters hate Fauci, Biden supporters like him. This changes nothing.
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)catbyte
(34,170 posts)believe him.