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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhitmer kidnap suspect wants out of jail. He's diabetic, and fears COVID-19
Kaleb Franks of Waterford, a recovering heroin addict who says he has turned his life around after doing time for cocaine and home invasion, has diabetes and high cholesterol, takes insulin daily and fears contracting COVID-19 in jail, his lawyer argued in court documents filed this week.
The filing shed more light on the life of the 26-year-old defendant known as 'Red Hot,' who maintains that he can be trusted not to flee and that he is not a threat to society, despite the judge concluding on Oct. 13 that "he remains a danger to the community."
According to testimony and court records, Franks was part of the surveillance operation outside Whitmer's cottage and was one of five suspects who drove to a meeting hoping to buy explosives and tactical gear, only to get arrested in what turned out to be a setup by the FBI.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/30/suspect-whitmer-kidnap-plot-jail-kaleb-franks/6085247002/
malaise
(268,715 posts)They can dish it out but can't take it - fuck off you woman hating terrorist
Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)mitch96
(13,871 posts)Lochloosa
(16,061 posts)chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)denbot
(9,898 posts)Yoink!
mitch96
(13,871 posts)It sorta takes the emotional gravity of "thoughts and prayers" and smacks it in the face with
m
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)reACTIONary
(5,768 posts)...embarrassed to make that claim.
phylny
(8,368 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)In It to Win It
(8,225 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)I mean, isnt that part of their narrative somewhere?
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)iluvtennis
(19,835 posts)DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Case closed!
no needs for masks and quarantines ... it is all a big government hoax
If this was fiction, it would be considered too absurd.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)So yeah...by participating in this kidnapping plot has said that covid is bullshit.
Joedog
(718 posts)Their beef was that Covid was a hoax according to the dumbass in chief and should not require special circumstances.
catbyte
(34,338 posts)and do something nefarious.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)And he can contemplate his vulnerability and what he did to increase it. I'm sobbing in my bourbon.
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)mopinko
(70,022 posts)i think he's an idiot.
i pray he gets it.
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)And, what's with this "He turned his life around" bullshit? No he didn't. He's part of a plot to kidnap and execute the Governor of Michi8gan. In what universe is that "turned his life around"???? What bullshit. Let him rot.
ProfessorGAC
(64,861 posts)It's just the meth now!
And, he doesn't know where to get meth in jail!
Give the guy a break, can't ya!
nycbos
(6,034 posts)... he hooks up with terrorists and NOW says he is afraid of COVID?
hatrack
(59,578 posts)Asshole.
mucifer
(23,487 posts)MerryBlooms
(11,757 posts)of carrying out what these terrorists were planning. Nope, do not pass go, and do not get out of jail.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)And good job of turning your life around...
Botany
(70,447 posts)Celerity
(43,123 posts)MyOwnPeace
(16,919 posts)being part of a surveillance operation to kidnap a government official and planning to buy explosives and tactical gear is showing evidence that you have "turned your life around........"
mitch96
(13,871 posts)Cartaphelius
(868 posts)he forfeited ANY such rights by actively PLANNING to deny
Governor Whitmer of her rights.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Freedumbs make you immune from hoaxes, so don't use the virus as an excuse.
Turned his life around? 360-degrees, huh?
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Governor of Michigan?
I have no words..... his folks must be proud..
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)Usually shows up first in their mug shot where they look like they've been crying.
getagrip_already
(14,642 posts)How about posting a selfie of you acting tough in jail? Waiting on that one.
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)Remember, this bunch wanted to kidnap her because of her efforts to protect people from COVID!!
I've heard of voting against your own best interests, but criminal conspiracy against your own best interests ?? That's some kind of a new record.
snowybirdie
(5,219 posts)So against the Governor for trying to prevent Covid spread? Wait, it's a hoax, isn't it? Bless his heart.
kacekwl
(7,014 posts)diabetes and fear covid. What makes you special snowflake ? Cry to your law and order president tough guy.
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)this "very fine person"?
getagrip_already
(14,642 posts)He could grab him from the state though and put him in witness protection.
Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)He's also afraid. Prisons are dangerous Covid hotspots. If you are a black man convicted of a felony, you are going to wait in fear.
This whole militia thing isn't the Boy Scouts.
Maybe sitting in his cell will be a deterant to others thinking of strapping on an assault rifle and kidnapping a governor.
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)in a plan to kidnap, try, and likely execute a sitting Governor for crimes those idiots determined.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)onecaliberal
(32,780 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)All you tough guys hiding behind your paramilitary clothing and toting weaponry that no citizen needs to own are really pathetic cowards stricken with ignorance and hate.
Sounds like the perfect candidate for 20-30 years behind bars.
Bengus81
(6,928 posts)PatSeg
(47,282 posts)He's a mess for someone who is only 26 years old.
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)the sunlight.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)he'll wear a mask there, I bet.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)your dictator declared the virus has turned the corner. Get the fuck to jail.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,104 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)"Never commit a felony when a misdemeanor would do."
paleotn
(17,884 posts)NO!!!
dalton99a
(81,404 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)A guy who wanted to kidnap and torture someone afraid he won't get his medicine? Fuck these people. Put them in jail and never let them out.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)I guess the final sentencing should be dismissed too . Put him in an isolation cell and give him his meds. He can pretend he is like millions of Americans shut into their homes.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Someone needs to get this jerk-off a dictionary so he can look up the definition of "consequence". Sincere apologies to those jerk-offs who might consider this remark as being offensive!
Harker
(13,985 posts)by planning to deprive another of theirs.
He lost.
onetexan
(13,023 posts)raccoon
(31,105 posts)ancianita
(35,938 posts)Dumbfucks always fight for their rights at the expense of others; so no, he IS a threat to society.
Where he is is where he can do the least harm to others. He brought his jail time on his own unempathic, armed grasshopper self.
MineralMan
(146,262 posts)He haz a worry.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Snowflake.
Oh, and domestic terrorist.
DFW
(54,302 posts)She fears getting kidnapped or murdered. She hopes you understand.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)to kidnap Gov. Whitmer. Weren't you one of those who refused to wear masks and hated her because she was trying to save your life? Karma's a bitch, not Whitmer.
appleannie1
(5,062 posts)catbyte
(34,338 posts)Vinca
(50,237 posts)Throw the key away.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)Tough.
Baby Kaleb is pictured in the bottom row
Illumination
(2,458 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)as the weakest one who would cry. You just have realize that Covid-19 is a hoax, and then man-up. Don't let it own you, you own it. Power through it.
If you can't man-up, then ask Gov. Gretchen for a deal. The jailers will deliver you to a Governor's peace "regulator", who will convene a judge and jury. If they convict you, then the peace "regulator" beheads you. Same deal as you were wanting to give the Governor.
pamdb
(1,332 posts)Tough shit. Shes my governor. As long as you get your insulin, you play the game, you take your chances.
keithbvadu2
(36,667 posts)No!
It's a hoax.
We've got it under control.
Almost nothing says Donnie Jr.
We're turning the corner.
And the jail has complete medical coverage, paid by the taxpayers.
Ingrate!
pamdb
(1,332 posts)Tough shit. Shes my governor. As long as you get your insulin, you play the game, you take your chances.
Marthe48
(16,904 posts)I have no sympathy for any of the bully boy thugs creeping out from under the rocks. With or without political parties, there are things decent people do not do. Kidnapping plots, threatening people with guns, running buses of the road are not acceptable.
I grew up in the 60's and there was a lot in the news about organized crime and protection rackets, and criminals threatening citizens with property damage, physical harm or harm against their families. Whatever steps were taken to make those crimes stop needs to be put in place to stop the modern thugs. Every single white supremacist arrested needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and if found guilty of charges, get the maximun fines and time.
safeinOhio
(32,641 posts)One plan they had was to tie her up, put her in a small boat and leave her adrift in Lake Michigan. Great terms for his release.
PatrickforO
(14,559 posts)the consequences before he entered into a right-wing extremist plot to KIDNAP THE GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN. Seriously.
I'm all for fair and humane treatment, and a fair trial, but this guy conspired to commit an act of domestic terror.
He did. He should not be let out.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)He's a domestic terrorist who wants a free pass because he's a diabetic. Oh. Well, Kaleb, you have a thinking deficit, I see. You could have assessed your health risks BEFORE YOU GOT INVOLVED IN THE KIDNAPPING PLOT. Now you're panicking. Cry me a river, Kaleb. You fucked up. Now you want special treatment, but not nearly the special kind of treatment you were willing to bestow upon the Michigan Governor. Take heart, Kaleb. You have a lawyer.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)dies from his diabetic pre-condition, the death certificate will still say Diabetes. So what if his life is shorten by the Covid. Trump doesn't see that as a factor to be concerned with.
yellowcanine
(35,694 posts)with terrorist buds, was he?
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)They all deserve to rot in prison. I hope every last one of them gets Covid-19 and suffer the consequences of their traitorous actions.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Can be trusted not to flee... good one.
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)You bought the fucking ticket, now you take the fucking ride.
bringthePaine
(1,727 posts)OldManTarHeel
(435 posts)Mickju
(1,797 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)AllyCat
(16,152 posts)Youd think that would appeal to him. If he was worried about COVID-19, maybe he shouldnt have been at the Capitol for an armed insurrection while wearing no mask.
iluvtennis
(19,835 posts)Aristus
(66,294 posts)He has access to medical care. Prison medicine isnt the best in the world, but if youve got a medical license and anything between the ears, you can manage insulin treatment for diabetes and statin therapy for high cholesterol.
Fla Dem
(23,590 posts)RockRaven
(14,906 posts)kairos12
(12,843 posts)sarge43
(28,940 posts)struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)a public official! It's not like I would hurt anybody else!"
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)SaintLouisBlues
(1,244 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)Great that he's no longer using heroin. Radical right-wing views, up to and including REAL domestic terrorism, though? I find it a tad troubling. Just a smidge. Anyone else?
Blue Owl
(50,271 posts)n/t
tblue37
(65,227 posts)Hekate
(90,562 posts)dweller
(23,613 posts)Rot in prison, then rot in Hell ...
🖕🏻
✌🏻
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Wow he really turned his life around
bdamomma
(63,801 posts)keep him there, if he contracts it, too bad.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)UTUSN
(70,649 posts)area51
(11,896 posts)Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.