I think Trump's threats to challenge the election are all fake.

[honest.abe]

Im sure his advisors are telling him it wont do any good if Biden wins by a substantial margin which is nearly certain he will. Trump's entire game plan has been to suppress the Democratic vote. This idea he will mount a legal challenge to the vote and win regardless of the vote tally is sending a message to Democrats that their vote doesnt matter so why bother.

Its not going to work as most Democrats are onto his lies and fake absurd claims, and in fact this could cause even more to show up that might not have.

We are gong to win big Tuesday and there's nothing Trump can do it about.

[TwilightZone]

1. There's really nothing he can do.

This has been beaten to death, but Trump can't do anything to force anyone to override state law where elections are concerned. They're done when they're done counting or when their state laws say they're done.

Even John Roberts has said that courts don't determine election law, state legislatures do. Trump's advisors certainly know what the message is there.

[empedocles]

6. trump concedes and the legal eagles flock after him

trump may not win, but anyone can walk into a court and sue, and delay . . .

[TwilightZone]

10. Nah.

Once states are called by the news agencies and media, courts are going to be highly reluctant to touch anything related. They also know what Roberts was signaling.

Besides, Trump's out of cash. Other than Dershowitz, I'm not sure who's willing to work for loser Trump pro bono.

[empedocles]

13. Even summary judgements take time and won't be automatic, and they can be appealed.

Cash seems to be around now. trump will file everywhere Nov. 4

[tblue37]

18. Giuliani doesn't charge him, either.

[lagomorph777]

29. And he's worth every penny.

I take that back. I think he should give Trump a refund.

[lagomorph777]

28. Dershowitz works pro boner.

[Harker]

31. But he'll leave his legal briefs on. n/t

[PutGramaOnThePhone]

35. Hahaha, Nice! n/t

[Harker]

37. They write themselves sometimes.

[Thekaspervote]

8. This!!

[Bradshaw3]

2. I think you are on to something

I don't know if people have noticed but drumpf doesn't do most of what he says he is going to do, either through incompetence or because he can't, which is what will happen after the election. How is he going to pay the lawyers required to make a long-term fight. Plus the establishment repubs are almost as sick of him as the rest of us.

[crickets]

12. 👆 This.

[Blue Owl]

3. The big, blustering, bloviating bully

n/t

[dewsgirl]

4. I hope you are right.

[relayerbob]

5. He'll fold like a cheap suit, IMO

[Thekaspervote]

7. If Biden were to happen to win FL and it's within the recount realm, he may try there

But not sure that will work. The loss of FL in a recount, well that would be too bad, but we don’t have to have FL to win.

[Demsrule86]

26. Why bother if it won't make you the winner...nope Trump is done.

[SomedayKindaLove]

9. Trump speaks loudly

And carries a small stick.

[KentuckyWoman]

30. I dunno how he can even hold his small stick ... with them bigly hands.

Childish ... I know.
I'm in a mood... sue me.

[SlogginThroughIt]

11. Maybe jill stein will collect donations for a recount on his behalf

[stopbush]

14. I think she has millions left over from the last recount she "paid for..."

[SlogginThroughIt]

15. Exactly!

[Warpy]

16. I have said that from the beginning

and while he might get a few phenomenally corrupt governors like Stitt and Abbot to go along with Barr's EC scheme, I doubt it would survive a challenge in the state courts.

What i do expect is a flurry of lawsuits filed by his mob lawyers who have been spending most of their time looking for loopholes, that and fending off criminal charges wherever he or his spawn have done business. I doubt this will go on forever, the man has a lot of really big bills coming due and I doubt his empire will survive them to the point he'll have to spend all his effort and remaining wealth on trying to stay out of prison.

While the best thing might be if he ran away, like all con men he thinks he'll beat the system if his lawyers stay at it long enough.

About the best hope he has is if he resigns when he loses and has Pence handle the transition, counting on a pardon for all Federal crimes while in office. I don't imagine Pence will be particularly thrilled with getting this dumped into his lap, so a pardon is far from certain.

[jimlup]

17. None of the Midwest will be in Tuesday night ...

Michigan, Wisconsin and critically Pennsylvania won't be reporting until at least Wednesday....

That means if we don't get Florida (which we may really not based on recent polling and other troubling signs) then the earliest indicator will be Arizona at about 10PM or later. The electoral vote will still be undecided BUT if Arizona goes blue it will likely be over.

Nevertheless, assume the worst. Assume that tRump and his lawyers will challenge everything and that those challenges will prevail. Then ask yourself how we will win? Let's NOT LET UP. FULL IN AND FULL THROUGH THE FINISH LINE.

[My Pet Orangutan]

20. MI - 95% Biden, WI - 93% Biden (538)

Both will be called by 11 PNM EST, like they usually are.
This is not 2016.

[jimlup]

38. I think Michigan will be

speaking from within MI our Democratic base. Yes, MI may be in by 11PM. Election officials are working hard to make that so.

HOWEVER

Neither MI nor WI can count pre-votes UNTIL ELECTION DAY. In Michigan, no ballots can be counted until 7AM Tuesday morning. If the clerks are prepared, then they can get those votes into the database before the polls close. If they are not, it will take quite awhile.

I'll be optimistic AFTER Joe has 270+ electoral votes. Until then, I'm phone banking to help get out the Democratic vote in PA.

[My Pet Orangutan]

39. Yes. Sometimes I let my hopes get ahead of me.

WI can't start processing absentees until election day.

I'm dreaming of a Blue Texas, Trump crushed, 400+ EC votes. Whatever happens, I want MAGA to know they have lost. Lost big time.

[NRaleighLiberal]

19. well, trump is certainly fake

[ailsagirl]

21. Can't he tie up the courts indefinitely??

[Blue_playwright]

22. Has anyone been out to Free Republic or other...

... sites to see how they are faring? Are they as confident as we are?

[Aussie105]

27. Some of their headlines:

Biden is being eaten alive by his own 'supporters'

Sorry Liberals, But Trump Still Has a Very Clear Path to 270

Kamala Harris Promotes Socialism Two Days Ahead of Election: ‘Equitable Treatment Means We All End Up at the Same Place’

Leaked Zoom Calls Reveal Federal Workers Conspiring To Shut Down White House/Disrupt Government

Hunter Biden Sold the Clintons’ Phone Numbers to the CCP

=============================================

Now, I'm not going to read any of those threads beyond their headlines.

But yes, they seem like it's a done deal.

(Mods: please delete if this post is against DU guidelines.)

[gordianot]

23. Considering Trump is angry with his pet Gorilla Bill Barr.

How long would it take to throw an attorney under the bus and ruin any chance for a legal career?

[Aussie105]

32. More to the point:

Who is going to wash that bus afterwards?

[moonscape]

36. I'm not convinced he's overly angry, because although Barr

didn't go along with 45's wet dream of going after Hunter, Joe, Barack, Hillary, et al ... he might well be mollifying him by preparing after-election mischief in case the election is close.

[dchill]

24. Then why is he barricading WH and Lafayette Square?

[Aussie105]

25. Fake?

Nope, Trump is simply using his normal techniques of wishful thinking and bullying.

He has a very positive outlook on life, and being a Bigly Brained Genius, he (still) thinks Reality will conform to his wishes.
"It is what it is, because I say so. It will be what it will be, because I say so. It is going to go my way, I have a gut feeling, I have a bigly Genius Gut as well as Bigly genius Brain, polls are just Fake news, etc."

There is no room in his Bigly Genius Brain or Bigly Genius Gut to even contemplate non-success in the election game.

Throw in a few threats, run the opposition down into the ground, and he has it made. So he thinks.

Except, his enablers - those who willingly tried to make Trump's wished come true in the past, are now looking at each other and realizing they need to somehow survive and have a life after the election.

Sucks to be Trump. Sucks even more to be a Trump enabler. Karma is coming!

[Illumination]

33. Americans & others despise Trump so much, that voting is like a movement pushing for

change!...

[captain queeg]

34. I think he'll try something but the Rs have had enough of him

They've gotten the important stuff they want, they won't follow him in the destruction of the country

[raccoon]

40. From your keyboard to dogs ears. NT