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SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:13 PM Nov 2020

Trump Telling Advisers He's Spooked at the Prospect of Being Indicted if He Loses

President Donald Trump is reportedly telling his advisers that he is becoming increasingly nervous about the fact that he could be indicted if he loses the election on Tuesday.

Trump is currently protected from indictment under all federal laws because he’s president, but if he loses, that would all change.

Trump has gone through great lengths to avoid releasing his taxes, leaving him vulnerable to being indicted for tax fraud. Cyrus Vance Jr., the district attorney for Manhattan, is also probing the possibility that Trump has provided insurers with false information regarding his financial position in order to receive lower premiums and interest rates on loans.

In addition to Trump’s potential crimes, numerous people connected to the president — through his campaign, his presidency, or even his business — have been charged with crimes.

More....

https://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/trump-reportedly-telling-advisers-hes-increasingly-spooked-at-the-prospect-of-being-indicted-if-he-loses/

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Trump Telling Advisers He's Spooked at the Prospect of Being Indicted if He Loses (Original Post) SouthernCal_Dem Nov 2020 OP
THUMBS UP!!! elleng Nov 2020 #1
good...let him worry FirstLight Nov 2020 #2
"From Russia with Love" Trump Arrest Montage (video) NurseJackie Nov 2020 #20
That was fun, thanks! scarletwoman Nov 2020 #71
Comey is my Homey! Classic! n/t aggiesal Nov 2020 #84
It's subtle... and missed by many. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #85
I love this video (wish it were real) Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #92
It didn't age well... but it's still fun to watch. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #93
Oh for sure Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #95
Guess he shouldn't have chosen a life of self-indulgent, traitorous, money laundering crimes Roland99 Nov 2020 #3
+1 Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #9
Not just that. If he stayed quiet and stayed a local con, he would be fine. Claustrum Nov 2020 #38
Exactly, he just HAD to be a big shot. Ligyron Nov 2020 #51
I still believe he never believed he would take the republican nomination, let alone the presidency Claustrum Nov 2020 #55
Just like Al Capone. LakeArenal Nov 2020 #4
You beat me by like, 3 seconds. louis-t Nov 2020 #7
😉🇺🇸 LakeArenal Nov 2020 #8
And, like Al Capone, he dies dead broke in prison. louis-t Nov 2020 #5
Capone died outside of prison with a good deal of money greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #14
He Regressed To The Level Of A 10 Year Old ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #35
Capone was paroled in 1939 and died in Florida in 1947 TeamPooka Nov 2020 #17
Served 8 years before parole empedocles Nov 2020 #40
yes but those are not the flase facts in question here. but thanks i guess TeamPooka Nov 2020 #45
Feels good to know empedocles Nov 2020 #46
As well he should be. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #6
Indictments are only part of his troubles. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #29
Trump's going to try to create leverage to negotiate his way out of indictment greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #10
How about a deal where he confesses on live TV what a complete fraud he is? Girard442 Nov 2020 #21
No way I'd trust him to provide a full and complete allocution to his crimes. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #74
Federal deals won't help him in NY (or any other state) N/T IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2020 #24
Precisely how does Biden nullify potential state indictments? LanternWaste Nov 2020 #58
After noon on January 20, I think a whole boat full of indictments are going to hit him. roamer65 Nov 2020 #11
I'm guessing they are sitting on a whole stack of things to indict him for. cbdo2007 Nov 2020 #12
He is OLDMDDEM Nov 2020 #13
Sounds like he knows he's guilty. Marie Marie Nov 2020 #15
Face it. He's BEEN worried about that. dchill Nov 2020 #16
Maybe he and Rudy can share a spider hole in Iraq. yellowcanine Nov 2020 #18
"Straight from the WHite House to prison." Damn! That sounds so good. nt Binkie The Clown Nov 2020 #19
"...from the White House to the Big House" whathehell Nov 2020 #28
I wonder who is leaking that? RGTIndy Nov 2020 #22
"Prospect" LOL. More like a flat-assed, stone cold, lead pipe cinch! Just by who and how many years brewens Nov 2020 #23
"Trump is currently protected from indictment under all federal laws because he's president" lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #25
It's just a memo like... lame54 Nov 2020 #86
EXACTLY! Yet it's treated with all the reverence of Holy Scripture. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #89
That Pres immunity by DOJ memo is another thing Biden and a coti Nov 2020 #26
Yup! It is completely anti-constitutional. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #31
That memo was practical legal politics. Mueller could have prosecuted, etc., empedocles Nov 2020 #42
With the current SCOTUS Sgent Nov 2020 #48
& his "advisors" are leaking it? Cha Nov 2020 #27
Also, maybe he should have chosen advisors who could keep their yaps shut. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #34
lol.. yeah.. not exactly the "best people". Cha Nov 2020 #39
Pardon me for mentioning it Bmoboy Nov 2020 #30
I was going to say welcome to DU, but you've been here forever! renate Nov 2020 #41
Thanks for the welcome Bmoboy Nov 2020 #50
From the White House to the Big House. Girard442 Nov 2020 #32
NY AG social media people knew what they were saying here... irisblue Nov 2020 #33
He's gonna lose a lot more than the Presidency...and he knows it. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #36
Maybe trump should never have run for President in the first place?. dubyadiprecession Nov 2020 #37
Fun thread empedocles Nov 2020 #43
I don't care what happens to him Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #44
I want justice served. Duppers Nov 2020 #88
Thoughts and Prayers modrepub Nov 2020 #47
Just now figuring that out. honest.abe Nov 2020 #49
My first incredulous thought as well. Really? Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #77
Don should pull himself up by his boot straps. sarcasmo Nov 2020 #52
Hey Donnie, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. You scumbag. Stinky The Clown Nov 2020 #53
Baretta. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #78
Sadly, Biden, as a Unity Candidate, isn't going to do that. joshcryer Nov 2020 #54
Misstatement there. He is not protected by federal laws from prosecution. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #56
I hope to god, reality will come crashing down on him and his asshole criminal family. Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #57
He should be spooked. nt SunSeeker Nov 2020 #59
I hope he sweats bullets non-stop until he gets that cold knock on the door. n/t ClusterFreak Nov 2020 #60
I'm thinking he will go from being mankind's most healthiest human Democrat 4 Ever Nov 2020 #61
Just because you're paranoid, Donnie, William Seger Nov 2020 #62
I don't Rebl2 Nov 2020 #63
Ooooh. Maybe he'll take the Hitler-in-the-bunker way out. LudwigPastorius Nov 2020 #64
Maybe he should start playing this at his final rallies... Buns_of_Fire Nov 2020 #65
if he loses the election? bluescribbler Nov 2020 #66
There's only one job in the USA that could have been exploited to permit this Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #67
We can have modern day Nuremburg trials IronLionZion Nov 2020 #68
Pull the whole criminal gang passport noneof_theabove Nov 2020 #76
He should be worried... Hulk Nov 2020 #69
All he has to do is resign before January anamnua Nov 2020 #70
It's nice to see he's finally developing some self-awareness! Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #72
Who's the leak? TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #73
Prospect? SheltieLover Nov 2020 #75
Since he is 74, in terrible shape, should we bug him literally all over without his knowledge &... Brainfodder Nov 2020 #79
Increasingly spooked? RobertDevereaux Nov 2020 #80
If true, it raises an interesting point DFW Nov 2020 #81
EVERYONE VOTE!! Lock him up!! Nt ecstatic Nov 2020 #82
There will be some sort deal for him. Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #83
K&R UTUSN Nov 2020 #87
I think he'll try to escape the country. NNadir Nov 2020 #90
Reaping Faux pas Nov 2020 #91
Seems like Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #94

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
2. good...let him worry
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:15 PM
Nov 2020

Unfortunately, that also makes his crazy ass MORE desperate to stay in office and he is already doing some dangerous shit and ginning up violence

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
92. I love this video (wish it were real)
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

but I can't stand the lionization of Comey. He's a big part of what wrong for Hillary in 2016 and helped Trump (and ironically Trump STILL fired him based on the crazy idea that HE was partially responsible for a supposed "Deep State Coup" )

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
95. Oh for sure
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:51 PM
Nov 2020

I have it saved to my YT and glance at it every once in a while. It sort of smarts that the Mueller investigation didn't turn out to be as important or significant as it probably should be and it won't be until Trump and his ilk are gone that we will actually know the full truth behind the investigation and what happened and what Barr's role was in it ending. I tend to think that Mueller was a decent person but had to have been greatly constrained by Rosenstein and then Barr. Hopefully, we will know more sooner rather than later.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
38. Not just that. If he stayed quiet and stayed a local con, he would be fine.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

He somehow had to take his con to the national level and becomes a politician. Yeah, your past will get you in trouble. Politician's whole life is known to be scrutinized to death.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
51. Exactly, he just HAD to be a big shot.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:21 PM
Nov 2020

They'll have to pull him kicking and screaming out from under his bed at Merde a Lardo for extradition to New York ... off you go now fat boy.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
55. I still believe he never believed he would take the republican nomination, let alone the presidency
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:54 PM
Nov 2020

He entered the race so he could spill his racist rhetoric so he could get some Fox News role.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
14. Capone died outside of prison with a good deal of money
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

He did, however, have syphilitic dementia.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
40. Served 8 years before parole
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

' . . . Capone began serving his time at the U.S. Penitentiary in Atlanta, but amid accusations that he was manipulating the system and receiving cushy treatment, he was transferred to the maximum-security lockup at Alcatraz Island, in California’s San Francisco Bay. He got out early in 1939 for good behavior, after spending his final year in prison in a hospital, suffering from syphilis . . .

www. History.com

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
29. Indictments are only part of his troubles.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:31 PM
Nov 2020

There are a flood of personal lawsuits waiting for him.
And now that he's no longer useful to Putin, he knows too much about Putin's plans. He may want to avoid windows and tea.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
10. Trump's going to try to create leverage to negotiate his way out of indictment
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:19 PM
Nov 2020

under a Biden administration.

Many media figures will support a "deal" to unite the country that allows Trump to avoid indictment and "move forward," etc.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
21. How about a deal where he confesses on live TV what a complete fraud he is?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:22 PM
Nov 2020

He could confess to his (ex?) supporters that he's been leading them to fascism because Putin paid him to.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
11. After noon on January 20, I think a whole boat full of indictments are going to hit him.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:19 PM
Nov 2020

He won’t have pardon power at that point.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
12. I'm guessing they are sitting on a whole stack of things to indict him for.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

Both state and federal charges.

OLDMDDEM

(1,572 posts)
13. He is
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

a loser and a sucker. He deserves anything and everything that will come to him. Same way with his family.

brewens

(13,574 posts)
23. "Prospect" LOL. More like a flat-assed, stone cold, lead pipe cinch! Just by who and how many years
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

are the question. I suppose he can delay things long enough to die and avoid actually going to prison. I'd say that's his best case scenario.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. "Trump is currently protected from indictment under all federal laws because he's president"
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

Well, really only because:
(1) He has Low Barr acting as his personal liability and criminal attorney.
(2) There is a specious DOJ memo that needs to be rescinded by President Biden.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
42. That memo was practical legal politics. Mueller could have prosecuted, etc.,
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:45 PM
Nov 2020

to no effective end.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
48. With the current SCOTUS
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:10 PM
Nov 2020

we have a unitary executive, so there is no such thing as an independent agency. We would need to bring back an independent council law (which was abandoned after Clinton) and even then I'm not sure it would survive challenge at this point.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
27. & his "advisors" are leaking it?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:29 PM
Nov 2020

Well, at least trump is aware of one thing.

he should have thought about not having a 2nd term before he went on a treasonous murdering rampage. and, did nothing but LIE relentlessly.

Bmoboy

(266 posts)
30. Pardon me for mentioning it
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:31 PM
Nov 2020

He will have until Jan 20 to come up with a deal or resign and have Pence do a full federal pardon.

He will still have access to money and hire a pirate ship full of lawyers to delay state and civil cases as long as possible.

Under Secret Service protection, and he'll get to charge them for everything. And never pay.

Or not ...

renate

(13,776 posts)
41. I was going to say welcome to DU, but you've been here forever!
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:44 PM
Nov 2020

I guess you're a "speak softly (or rarely) and carry a big stick" type! Nice to see you!

Bmoboy

(266 posts)
50. Thanks for the welcome
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:12 PM
Nov 2020

I've been official for awhile, but glitched out by the computer overlords for unknown reasons for months. Just got back on THIS week.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
32. From the White House to the Big House.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:32 PM
Nov 2020

From POTUS #45 to Prisoner #45601
From Commander-in-Chief to convicted thief.
From famous and rich to gang leader's bitch.
From "Four more years" to "Forty to life."

dubyadiprecession

(5,706 posts)
37. Maybe trump should never have run for President in the first place?.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

Considering how batshit crazy he is, plus all of his crooked, white trash problems!

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
88. I want justice served.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 03:56 AM
Nov 2020

What good are laws if they don't apply to everyone?

He is a criminal.

And importantly, he should not be allowed to buy any network & keep bombarding the public airways with his hate filled lies. His minions will then keep causing trouble in the country. We've already had enough of that with Fux Lies. He won't allowed public interviews in prison.


joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
54. Sadly, Biden, as a Unity Candidate, isn't going to do that.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:49 PM
Nov 2020

But he should pull out all the stops and really drain the swamp if he wants the Democratic Party to prosper. They need to be taught a lesson.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
56. Misstatement there. He is not protected by federal laws from prosecution.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:55 PM
Nov 2020

It is only a Justice department policy.

Leia Idliby apparently doesn't check the facts.

Vivienne235729

(3,383 posts)
57. I hope to god, reality will come crashing down on him and his asshole criminal family.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:58 PM
Nov 2020

They all deserve to rot in jail for the rest of their lives. And then I hope they rot in hell too.

Democrat 4 Ever

(3,941 posts)
61. I'm thinking he will go from being mankind's most healthiest human
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:04 PM
Nov 2020

in the history of time to begging to be released from jail because the COVID will “suddenly” become dangerous. He’ll u turn so fast his supporters will get whiplash. I want him in jail. His supporters need a clear example of the rule of law.

Rebl2

(13,492 posts)
63. I don't
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:13 PM
Nov 2020

care if he’s scared/spooked if he’s indicated. Do you? About time he gets some jail time like some of his people did that worked for him!

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
64. Ooooh. Maybe he'll take the Hitler-in-the-bunker way out.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

Many people are saying that such an extreme narcissist would never have the balls to do such a thing.

Prove 'em wrong, Donny!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
67. There's only one job in the USA that could have been exploited to permit this
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:24 PM
Nov 2020

Fucker should be happy he stole 4 years of freedom. He also defecated on our Constitution, pissed on the American people, and still believes himself to be above every single one of us, including his army of misdirected devotees. If anyone at any time in world history deserved to be tried in public for every single one of his transgressions, it's this evil, cowardly, pustulent example of everything that is wrong with mankind that needs to be fixed.

This man threw a wrench in the works and we're all damned lucky to still be alive.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
68. We can have modern day Nuremburg trials
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:24 PM
Nov 2020

Some Trump officials will try to flee the country. Take away their passports while they stand trial. I doubt even Russia will grant them asylum. They may have to try North Korea.

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
76. Pull the whole criminal gang passport
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:43 PM
Nov 2020

Then if he wins, after all states have certified, somewhere around Dec 10
maybe they can get them back. Some still need to stand trial like JarVanka.



 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
69. He should be worried...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:27 PM
Nov 2020

They are licking their chops for January 21 to arrive😈

I'm worried about what this draft dodging coward con artist is going to do to our government and our nation before then.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he takes off to Russia right after he leaves the White House. Mark my word👿

anamnua

(1,109 posts)
70. All he has to do is resign before January
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:28 PM
Nov 2020

in return for a pardon from President Pence -- a la Nixon/Ford '74.

RobertDevereaux

(1,856 posts)
80. Increasingly spooked?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:05 PM
Nov 2020

THE SOLUTION IS THIS:

You and Pence resign NOW!

THIS VERY MOMENT!

You'll gain such peace of mind. We guarantee that. As well as an abundance amount of SOLITARY TIME to contemplate your innumerable failings.

What a GIFT that would be to you. GRAB IT while you can.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
81. If true, it raises an interesting point
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:14 PM
Nov 2020

It would indicate he hasn't completely lost contact with reality after all..............

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
83. There will be some sort deal for him.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:31 PM
Nov 2020

But creditors will come after him. He'll end up selling most of his properties.

But I do think the Trump TV thing might happen. It won't last long. Trump is a one act pony. Soon, even his most ardent supporters will grow tired of his act.

Those running for president in 2024 will never utter his name.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
90. I think he'll try to escape the country.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:57 AM
Nov 2020

He certainly committed enough crimes to put him away for life. The most notable are treason and obstruction of justice.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
94. Seems like
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:45 PM
Nov 2020

Worrying about losing your legal immunity if you lose should be an automatic disqualification. Just sayin'

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