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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:10 PM Nov 2020

To the majority of cops---the good ones:

I have personally known several of you. I liked and respected you and I believe that was reciprocated. But, some of the people wearing that same badge you wear are mean assholes.

Some are---yes---racists.

Some are sexist jerks.

Some are Rambo wannabes.

And, some became cops because they like to hurt people.

These people think "To Serve and Protect" is just that silly-ass slogan painted on their car.

These people think of themselves as "warriors" and that makes most of their community "the enemy".

These people tarnish the star YOU wear.

You know "legal" and "right" and "fair" and you know that common sense is just as important a law enforcement tool as your sidearm or taser.

Help us identify and replace these incompetents with others like you.

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To the majority of cops---the good ones: (Original Post) Atticus Nov 2020 OP
what makes u think the majority of cops are "good ones"? good cops who cover for bad msongs Nov 2020 #1
+100000 Nevilledog Nov 2020 #5
I believe the majority of people are basically good people. And I don't believe that good cops with Atticus Nov 2020 #6
Most cops who lose the jobs go and apply to another jurisdiction and get hired because they don't demosincebirth Nov 2020 #17
Lots of reasons, granted. And here we sit well knowing they are not on our side. LizBeth Nov 2020 #20
Joe is proposing a national registry that will stop the job-hopping for the bad actors. nt Atticus Nov 2020 #24
LE personal, want to make points with us, instead of standing against us, Hotler Nov 2020 #2
The good cops end up quitting. iemitsu Nov 2020 #3
No good cops. They had there chance the last handful of months and they all stand down LizBeth Nov 2020 #4
"Simplistic" is the best I can muster for that. nt Atticus Nov 2020 #9
Or watching the last 6 months and the silence from that blue line as they get in the caravans and LizBeth Nov 2020 #13
I simply believe you paint with way too broad a brush. nt Atticus Nov 2020 #16
Well staying quiet does make it a pretty broad brush cause I am not hearing any "good" cop LizBeth Nov 2020 #31
This is what happens to good cops wellst0nev0ter Nov 2020 #35
They seem to support Fascism Newest Reality Nov 2020 #7
ACAB aidbo Nov 2020 #8
Coast to coast...they're all behaving the same stillcool Nov 2020 #10
The majority of cops are not "the good ones". Statistical Nov 2020 #11
I see your point, but the brown shirts also got their due. demosincebirth Nov 2020 #19
There are no good cops. Codeine Nov 2020 #12
It is easy to say what "all of them" should do when it is not your ass that is on the line and when Atticus Nov 2020 #14
If the majority of them were good Codeine Nov 2020 #26
"If the majority of them were good then the pressures and "being hung out to dry" wouldn't be Atticus Nov 2020 #28
The good / bad always rends itself useless Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #15
Are you sure you are in the right thread? That was thoughtful! Thanks. nt Atticus Nov 2020 #18
I think joe and kamala know what to do Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #22
I'm not sure there are that many "good cops" JonLP24 Nov 2020 #21
"Some" is a useful word, as in "some" cops are mean assholes. "Some" is not nearly the same as "all Atticus Nov 2020 #23
I have seen police treat left wing protestors a lot worse than right wing protestors JonLP24 Nov 2020 #25
Depending on your color, your age, and your politics BlueIdaho Nov 2020 #27
More and more of us are figuring out Codeine Nov 2020 #29
My son and I were having this conversation today. I agree with you. LizBeth Nov 2020 #32
defund/demilitarize the police bdtrppr6 Nov 2020 #30
I think a lot of cops are good. I used to think the majority were renate Nov 2020 #33
The only thing a cop cares about is their retirement plan ansible Nov 2020 #34

msongs

(67,395 posts)
1. what makes u think the majority of cops are "good ones"? good cops who cover for bad
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:12 PM
Nov 2020

cops are not actually "good ones" IMO

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
6. I believe the majority of people are basically good people. And I don't believe that good cops with
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:26 PM
Nov 2020

bill's to pay and kids to feed are immune to the fear of losing their jobs, their reputations and their paychecks for not being "loyal" to others on the force. It takes a lot of courage to report bad fellow cops for wrongdoing. While I wish more would, I will not judge those who don't to be "bad" cops without more.

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
17. Most cops who lose the jobs go and apply to another jurisdiction and get hired because they don't
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:44 PM
Nov 2020

have to train a new cop. this is what happens here in California. They don't have to switch pensions or anything of that nature. Ego also keeps the blinders on.

Hotler

(11,420 posts)
2. LE personal, want to make points with us, instead of standing against us,
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:14 PM
Nov 2020

stand with us and protect us from him.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. No good cops. They had there chance the last handful of months and they all stand down
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:16 PM
Nov 2020

and allow the "bad" cops to control the show. They can no longer separate themselves.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
13. Or watching the last 6 months and the silence from that blue line as they get in the caravans and
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:36 PM
Nov 2020

support the chaos while throwing white power signs to cheer the supremacists while taking down the protester and not a damn word from our "good" cops.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
31. Well staying quiet does make it a pretty broad brush cause I am not hearing any "good" cop
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 01:10 AM
Nov 2020

calling out any of the atrocious behavior from the lowest to highest ranks.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. They seem to support Fascism
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:26 PM
Nov 2020

because it obviously gives them much more power and far less accountability. They can even get away with more judge, jury and executioner style police work as wannabe Judge Dredds.

Fascism likes bad cops a lot, in fact good cops are bad cops in that kind of police state. They go hand-in-hand.

Trump has a lot to offer them and so he gets their full support. They are next in line for more power and can ignore the basic ideas of working for the people's respect, etc. It's too tempting to resist.

That happened during the Wiemar Republic, too, when the police accepted the Nazi's because it solved all kinds of enforcement problems for them.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
10. Coast to coast...they're all behaving the same
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:30 PM
Nov 2020

My family were cops, Irish Catholic cops, with a penchant for whiskey. And a penchant for violence that follows the whiskey. I felt empathy for them, the situations they found themselves in, seeing the worst that humankind has to offer. I have no doubt they were racist, and that they did what they wanted to those who could not fight back. I experienced it. Heard about it. Seems weird even writing about them, in the context of what I see today. Was it the same? I was growing up in a volatile surrounding with relatives. Funny how different things look when you're on the outside looking in.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
11. The majority of cops are not "the good ones".
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:30 PM
Nov 2020

If they were they wouldn't be covering for the murder and assault done by the "bad ones" in their name.

Which of the brownshirts were the good ones?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
12. There are no good cops.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:31 PM
Nov 2020

If they were good they would stand up to those who bully and abuse and flat-out murder.

But they don’t. They cover for them. They excuse them. They rationalize their brutality and pretend it’s self-defense.

Fuck all of them.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
14. It is easy to say what "all of them" should do when it is not your ass that is on the line and when
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:41 PM
Nov 2020

there are hundreds of ways you can be hung out to dry if you are tagged as a "rat".

Newsflash: this is not a cut-and-dried black-and-white issue.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
26. If the majority of them were good
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM
Nov 2020

then the pressures and “being hung out to dry” wouldn’t be issues.

Make all the excuses for them that you wish, but understand that perceptions have changed; people are coming to grips with the notion that the police are an occupying force who mete out violence and brutality as and when they please. I’m no longer interested in hearing people justify this state of affairs.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
28. "If the majority of them were good then the pressures and "being hung out to dry" wouldn't be
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:15 PM
Nov 2020

issues".

What color is the sky in the world you live in?

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
15. The good / bad always rends itself useless
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:43 PM
Nov 2020

if it was as easy as rating leo's on being thoughtful, we could say naughty / nice instead. How do we find a metric for suitability? How do we stop shielding adverse performance from public view? Can we frame a fight in a way to gain some ground?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
21. I'm not sure there are that many "good cops"
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:51 PM
Nov 2020

Did you see the video of cops beating up a Biden supporter? Recently Philadelphia PD destroyed a woman's vehicle and kidnapped her child for a propaganda post on social media. They are openly colluding with Trump supporters because many of them are in fact Trump supporters.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
23. "Some" is a useful word, as in "some" cops are mean assholes. "Some" is not nearly the same as "all
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:57 PM
Nov 2020

To blame all of any group for the evil done by some of them is, hopefully, obviously wrong.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
25. I have seen police treat left wing protestors a lot worse than right wing protestors
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:01 PM
Nov 2020

They choose those unions to represent them. A group was pepper sprayed marching to the polls.

You should tell the police all that not me. They are the ones discriminating.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
29. More and more of us are figuring out
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:19 PM
Nov 2020

what some have always known. I know my perception of the police has changed radically in the last decade. I am embarrassed by my previous tendency to assume they were in the right automatically, to give them the benefit of the doubt far past what I now understand to be reasonable.

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
30. defund/demilitarize the police
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 AM
Nov 2020

we need community helpers to deal with the homeless and psych cases, not armed and half psychotic roid-ragers instantly shooting at people. cops always escalate just by their presence and being prone to sudden gun related violence.

renate

(13,776 posts)
33. I think a lot of cops are good. I used to think the majority were
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 02:03 AM
Nov 2020

I’ve posted earlier tonight about cops so I won’t repeat myself. We have a dear family friend who’s a cop whom I love very much and who is absolutely and totally a good guy.

I used to think the vast majority were good. I still think a whole lot of them are. But I no longer think it’s a tiny minority who are bad. It makes me sad. I used to really look up to them.

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