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Bradshaw3

(7,486 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:47 AM Nov 2020

AP declared Biden the winner in AZ; why haven't the others outlets?

Usually the Associated Press is more conservative in its projections yet they seem to be the only outlet making a call:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/03/arizona-2020-presidential-election-results-donald-trump-joe-biden/5996346002/

The NYT map shows that there are far more remaining votes to be counted in the more heavily populated counties voting Democratic than in the less populated red counties:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-arizona.html

There is simply no way drumpf is going to make up the 100,000 plus vote difference. In fact, Biden's winning margin should grow.

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AP declared Biden the winner in AZ; why haven't the others outlets? (Original Post) Bradshaw3 Nov 2020 OP
They're scared In It to Win It Nov 2020 #1
Ratings uponit7771 Nov 2020 #2
Because they don't know for sure qazplm135 Nov 2020 #3
Never said there was a conspiracy Bradshaw3 Nov 2020 #8
AP and Fox Decision Desk have called it for Biden obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #4
NYT is predicting AZ will complete its vote count today. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #5
Last night on CNN, a whitehouse correspondent said that per some WH aide, it KewlKat Nov 2020 #6
That's an interesting tidbit. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #7
Yeah, and I believe that is why drumpf wanted most states to stop but for AZ to KewlKat Nov 2020 #11
I remember in 2018 that the NYT site was REAL REAL slow calling some races. BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #9
Aljazeera also projected Joe in Arizona, maybe cueing from AP? greenman3610 Nov 2020 #10

obamanut2012

(26,046 posts)
4. AP and Fox Decision Desk have called it for Biden
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:53 AM
Nov 2020

And, both are actually usually very cautious and very accurate

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. NYT is predicting AZ will complete its vote count today.
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:53 AM
Nov 2020

Biden is up by 5%, and Mark Kelly's race was called last night.

82% of the votes have been counted.

Where are the uncounted votes? If they are in Maricopa and Pima counties, we will take this state.

In 2016, it took days (five? six?) to call the Kyrsten Sinema/McSally race, even though Sinema was ahead the entire time. Most of the outstanding tabulation was in Maricopa county, IIRC. Sinema's lead just kept widening.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
6. Last night on CNN, a whitehouse correspondent said that per some WH aide, it
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 09:56 AM
Nov 2020

Was after AZ was projected for Joe that drumpf went off the rails and demanded they stop the counting. The CNN guy said we haven’t called it for Biden and this woman said well the AP had.

So maybe the news outlets were fearful of calling it for Joe because of drumpf’s behavior?

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
11. Yeah, and I believe that is why drumpf wanted most states to stop but for AZ to
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:01 AM
Nov 2020

Continue the count.

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