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What just happened in Philly? (Original Post) Rustynaerduwell Nov 2020 OP
MSNBC says Democrats have gone to court to stop GOPer observers from going in counting rooms. Hoyt Nov 2020 #1
Are there not official observers from both parties? AkFemDem Nov 2020 #4
That's what I thought too, but apparently something else is going on. Maybe GOPers want armed Hoyt Nov 2020 #6
I think there is a difference between those who actually handle the ballots Hav Nov 2020 #16
These types of people want inside the counting room. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #2
+1 dalton99a Nov 2020 #3
omfg Chakaconcarne Nov 2020 #8
That's an old pic from Ohio over pandemic shut-downs... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #9
Here is an even older one of the exact same thing going on whopis01 Nov 2020 #17
Yep, the "Brooks rioters" in Florida. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #19
It was the noise. Mister Ed Nov 2020 #23
MSM media, put this on the even g news. Is this democracy? yardwork Nov 2020 #10
they need to call bdamomma Nov 2020 #5
Zombieland. roamer65 Nov 2020 #7
.... bdamomma Nov 2020 #12
The Body Snatchers want to peer over the shoulders of election workers? DFW Nov 2020 #27
They're planning on eating all the D ballots durablend Nov 2020 #11
Those bdamomma Nov 2020 #15
They have 3 shifts going 24/7 and are probably ON BREAK BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #13
CNN states some legal challenge to 29,000 ballots PirateRo Nov 2020 #14
Not Philly rso Nov 2020 #18
Oh. I heard Philly on MSNBC. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #20
THEY ARE ON BREAK BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #21
Oh, okay. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #22
There are 3 shifts of workers (I think something like 100 each shift doing various things) BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #24
Thanks for the info! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #25
Believe it or not, I have yet to turn the TV on AT ALL for any of this BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #26
I won't turn the TV bdamomma Nov 2020 #30
Heh... BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #31
You're in bdamomma Nov 2020 #32
Yes I am, born and raised! BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #33
Alan Greenspan's wife bdamomma Nov 2020 #29
Yep, and he was a disciple of Ayn Rand long ago. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #34
They are adjusting the barrier distance between the media & observers and the canvassers BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #28
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. MSNBC says Democrats have gone to court to stop GOPer observers from going in counting rooms.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:37 PM
Nov 2020

At least as I heard it.

AkFemDem

(1,823 posts)
4. Are there not official observers from both parties?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:40 PM
Nov 2020

Seems this would be a reasonable request, a specific number should be set with rules of behavior in place.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
6. That's what I thought too, but apparently something else is going on. Maybe GOPers want armed
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

militia observers. I hope it's not just a lawsuit for the heck of it.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
16. I think there is a difference between those who actually handle the ballots
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:48 PM
Nov 2020

(a representative of each party being present) and an area specified for observers from a distance to watch without getting too close. Rudy Colludy deliberately muddied the waters between those groups yesterday. I suppose members of the latter group entered space they weren't allowed to enter.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. That's an old pic from Ohio over pandemic shut-downs...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:45 PM
Nov 2020

... but those types are all over the country and want access to the counting room in Philadelphia now.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
19. Yep, the "Brooks rioters" in Florida.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:51 PM
Nov 2020

I still can't understand how people were intimidated by those wimps, but they managed to shut down the recounting.

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
23. It was the noise.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:58 PM
Nov 2020

Those inside the room couldn't concentrate, and couldn't converse with each other over the racket created by these Washington GOP staffers shouting and banging on the doors.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
27. The Body Snatchers want to peer over the shoulders of election workers?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:15 PM
Nov 2020

Don't they have some family members to transform, or something?

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
15. Those
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:47 PM
Nov 2020

people need to be arrested, this is not a dictatorship. And they all do not have masks on either.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
13. They have 3 shifts going 24/7 and are probably ON BREAK
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

except for the few hours I have had chance to sleep, I have been streaming them 24/7 and they DO go on breaks, plus lunch and dinner, etc.

That camera is not really pulled back the full way to show the size of the whole gigantic room (Exhibit Hall F at the PA Convention Center).

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
24. There are 3 shifts of workers (I think something like 100 each shift doing various things)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:02 PM
Nov 2020

who have been working 24/7 and the stream is running 24/7. As I've watched them the past 2 days, they will do a big batch and then start trickling out on a break and then will continue one portion (removing ballots from envelopes) and then when the batch is big enoug they will start the scanners.

Right now they appear to be moving the "barrier" closer to the canvassing tables.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
25. Thanks for the info!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:06 PM
Nov 2020

MSNBC definitely gave me the wrong impression earlier.

Speaking of which, switching to CNN now after seeing Andrea Mitchell on the screen.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
26. Believe it or not, I have yet to turn the TV on AT ALL for any of this
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:11 PM
Nov 2020

Because I KNOW they have been reporting bullshit.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
31. Heh...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:49 PM
Nov 2020

They have to fill those hours. They are too lazy to have someone actually HERE to report and I guess are relying on anecdotes and guessing.

I have been getting news from DU, the city's election site (including their livestream), my local Philly news outlets, and some of the national news outlets' websites.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
32. You're in
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:54 PM
Nov 2020

Philly??? you are in belly of the beast??? or should I say the state where it all began??? Philly will come through for Joe.

Don't turn that TV on, bad for your health sometimes.

I'm addicted to DU every time I want to get up to something, I come back to see what's happening!

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
33. Yes I am, born and raised!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020


We have usually helped to throw the state to blue, along with NE PA, Pittsburgh, and Erie, but in 2016 there were other factors like Erie tipping slightly to red, and NE PA going lighter blue, that threw the whole dynamic off.

Crossing fingers!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
34. Yep, and he was a disciple of Ayn Rand long ago.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:33 PM
Nov 2020

Ugh.

That's always my first mental connection for him, not him being a chairman of the Fed Reserve.

BumRushDaShow

(128,844 posts)
28. They are adjusting the barrier distance between the media & observers and the canvassers
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:17 PM
Nov 2020

(this was earlier within the past 30 minutes but they are still adjusting with a tape measure just now)







ETA - they also have periodically had cleaning crews come in and wipe down the tables when they are on breaks. Here is a pic if the latest barrier configuration and one with a woman who has been cleaning the barrier rails -



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