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PTWB

(4,131 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:53 PM Nov 2020

Supreme Court isn't going to save Trump.

There is no way in hell. They’re all conscious of the implications in tarnishing the reputation of their institution. They might do it for someone establishment and if they didn’t have to go too far out on a limb like in 2000, but not for Trump and not like this.

They’re not going to throw away Biden votes to give Trump the keys to the castle. Mark my words now, SCOTUS is going to tell Trump to get fucked.

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Supreme Court isn't going to save Trump. (Original Post) PTWB Nov 2020 OP
They never were. John Roberts tried to warn Trump. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #1
Neither is Amy. PTWB Nov 2020 #3
I can't wait for him to start trashing Amy kskiska Nov 2020 #7
Count on it. PTWB Nov 2020 #13
Amen! Butterflylady Nov 2020 #12
"The courts will hold" VWolf Nov 2020 #2
The so-called constitutional originalists would have a tough time The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #4
A Corner Into Which They Painted Themselves ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #15
Yup. Sometimes originalism, as intellectually dishonest as it is, works in our favor, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #16
If the conservative Judges intervene in favor of Trump when it is clear Blue_true Nov 2020 #5
Yup - if they do that, they will have ceded their power to Trump. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Amishman Nov 2020 #6
Once they are appointed t'Rump has no leverage on them. Yonnie3 Nov 2020 #8
Hah! Yes, especially Justice WeenieWaver. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #11
He wanted strict constitutionalists gollygee Nov 2020 #9
No they wont standingtall Nov 2020 #14

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
1. They never were. John Roberts tried to warn Trump.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:55 PM
Nov 2020

Roberts quite pointedly noted that courts don't determine election rules. That was a barely-veiled message to Trump and his minions.

Also, as you noted, Roberts is concerned about the legacy of "his" court. He's not going to throw it away for Trump, Amy or no Amy.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
3. Neither is Amy.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:59 PM
Nov 2020

You think she wants to tarnish her brand new position with her first ruling? No way.


The ONLY one I see giving Trump a nod is Thomas. But even he might not.

Butterflylady

(3,523 posts)
12. Amen!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:26 PM
Nov 2020

I've thought that all along. Rump has made a mockery of the SC and I'm sure Roberts isn't happy about that. You're right, Roberts more than likely doesn't like the way the last two justices were pushed on him.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,281 posts)
4. The so-called constitutional originalists would have a tough time
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

justifying overturning a state's statutory election procedures when the Constitution very clearly says that the state legislatures decide how their states manage their elections and choose electors. Specifically, Art. II, Sec. 1, Clause 2 states that each state shall appoint electors "in such Manner as the Legislature Thereof May Direct." So if a state decides to choose its electors based on a popular vote in which voters can cast ballots by mail which must be counted if received by a date designated by the state legislature, I should think the originalists would be cool with that. Trump might be very disappointed with "his" justices.

ProfessorGAC

(64,427 posts)
15. A Corner Into Which They Painted Themselves
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:52 PM
Nov 2020

That originalism thing, aside from the ridiculousness of it, constrains their own activism!
That's when it stops being a convenient philosophy.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,281 posts)
16. Yup. Sometimes originalism, as intellectually dishonest as it is, works in our favor,
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

and they are stuck with it.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. If the conservative Judges intervene in favor of Trump when it is clear
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Nov 2020

that Biden has won, they just as well should burn down the Supreme Court building on their way home, because they would have ended any legitimacy that body had.

Response to PTWB (Original post)

Yonnie3

(17,376 posts)
8. Once they are appointed t'Rump has no leverage on them.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:22 PM
Nov 2020

Unless he has Kompromat. That is unlikely because the Senate has researched them thoroughly.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
14. No they wont
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

They might have given him it came down to a couple of thousand votes, but not across multiple states with the margin being much harder than that.

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