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Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:59 PM Nov 2020

Nevada should be called. Why is the MSM hesitating?

They called Virginia and Hawaii with 0% cast becasue they knew that the past trends were that the Dem areas in those states dominated. There was no question, via statistics, that those votes would favor Democratic candidates.

In Nevada the ONLY votes left are in a county where mail-in ballots historically break 2-1 Democratic. and they have processed enough of those to se that they are in actuality breaking 2-1 for Joe. 15,000 out of 75,00 - reality is reflecting the statistical model.

The numbers are there. The history is there, The stats are there. The good sample of reality is there.

Just like VA and HI.

Call the gawddamn thing and let The People get on with Building Back Better. Time is a wastin'.


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Nevada should be called. Why is the MSM hesitating? (Original Post) Tommymac Nov 2020 OP
My theory: No state wants to be the one putting Biden over the top VWolf Nov 2020 #1
Because the AZ call..... Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #2
It also means once he's won people will stop being so glued to the news sboatcar Nov 2020 #10
That makes sense. StarryNite Nov 2020 #19
Agreed... Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #25
Not all of the remaining ballots are from Clark County. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #3
Maricopa County is in AZ not Nevada. Not relevant to this topic. Tommymac Nov 2020 #13
Duh. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #16
Provide your proof. Nt USALiberal Nov 2020 #4
Maybe they want to be absolutely sure so people won't freak if they are wrong. Srkdqltr Nov 2020 #5
You all pushing for hurry hurry hurry would be the first to loose your minds if they are wrong. Srkdqltr Nov 2020 #6
Nope MoonlitKnight Nov 2020 #9
THIS!!!! nt Tommymac Nov 2020 #14
Because Joe Gloria stated xmas74 Nov 2020 #7
Joe is going to determine this. Wellstone ruled Nov 2020 #11
He seems like a decent guy. xmas74 Nov 2020 #31
So sad that the Trump Clown Bus showed Wellstone ruled Nov 2020 #32
Not asking Nevada to call. The Media Call is a different thing totally. Tommymac Nov 2020 #20
Why on earth would they call? xmas74 Nov 2020 #30
Same reason as all the other stupid shit they do... ratings Amishman Nov 2020 #8
maybe they are giving PA time to finish as Joes homestate would put him over the top samnsara Nov 2020 #12
Never thought of that. Good Point. Tommymac Nov 2020 #29
Here's what Nevada looks like, with an estimated 87 percent of votes counted mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2020 #15
A network calling a race has no legal standing. I can wait. StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #17
The PUBLIC Perception is way more important. Tommymac Nov 2020 #22
Public perception is important. And if the network gets it wrong, it's a major mess StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #27
And the real legal standing doesn't happen until Dec 14 GopherGal Nov 2020 #26
What's the rush? Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #18
Here is why... lame54 Nov 2020 #21
Nice Tommymac Nov 2020 #23
The MSM is probably hesitating (and of so, rightly) to wait for a Wisconsin-like situation DFW Nov 2020 #24
They know we are done with them FOR AWHILE once this is called? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #28

VWolf

(3,944 posts)
1. My theory: No state wants to be the one putting Biden over the top
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:01 PM
Nov 2020

They would incur the most wrath from mf45. If they call at the remaining states at the same time, however, it may soften the blow.

I know - crazy theory LOL

Happy Hoosier

(7,285 posts)
2. Because the AZ call.....
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:03 PM
Nov 2020

... means calling NV for Biden means he wins. The AZ call is precarious. So no one wants to declare Biden the winner (IMO)

StarryNite

(9,443 posts)
19. That makes sense.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:32 PM
Nov 2020

Particularly because AZ does not yet have a 'firm' call and what if we can't hold on? I think it's safer to wait until AZ is a definite or Pennsylvania gets called for Biden.

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
3. Not all of the remaining ballots are from Clark County.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:04 PM
Nov 2020

There are about 60k provisional ballots, which Jon Ralston says will probably split about evenly.

That's still advantage Biden since he's ahead, but since they're from varied locations, outlets are probably hesitant to call the race.

Edit: embarrassing typo

TwilightZone

(25,464 posts)
16. Duh.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:29 PM
Nov 2020

Sorry, I really need to stop having multiple threads open at the same time.

Either that, or Jon Ralston just became an expert on AZ politics. Or something.

Thanks.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
9. Nope
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:17 PM
Nov 2020

The networks call FL for Bush in 2000. That greatly contributed to the shenanigans that ensued to hold up his “win”.

They need to make the call.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
11. Joe is going to determine this.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:25 PM
Nov 2020

He seems to have placed himself smack square in front of the SOS and her Political White House friends.

Not to forget,the SOS and Laxalt who is Trump's State Reelection Chair person,as well as McDonald whom is the Nevada GOP Chair Person,are looking for any reason to invalidate Joe Gloria's work.

Keep the faith,we Dems here in Vegas got this.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
31. He seems like a decent guy.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:46 PM
Nov 2020

He was pretty brief, blunt, stated facts, stated they wanted to get it right and didn't really step around it.

I feel like I could trust him.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. So sad that the Trump Clown Bus showed
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:30 PM
Nov 2020

up this morning with all his Dregs and Has Ben Actors auditioning for their room on the Strip.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
20. Not asking Nevada to call. The Media Call is a different thing totally.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:32 PM
Nov 2020

Thier models HAVE to show Nevada will go Blue. Just like VA or HI.

Networks called FLA in 2000 in a similair situation.

Networks called VA and HI in 2020 in the same type situation.

In the long run their inconsistencies leads to the lack of public trust that we see everywhere today.

The Media Cartels best beware - the chickens will come home to roost and their profits will suffer in the ling run.

50% of the people in this country are not stupid.

xmas74

(29,674 posts)
30. Why on earth would they call?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:44 PM
Nov 2020

The votes are close, polls have been iffy and they don't want to take something back. Besides, the ratings are good.

I wouldn't call if it was me.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
29. Never thought of that. Good Point.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:39 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks!

I had heard PA would not be called until tomorrow - but now it sounds like they may do something tonight.

I know you won't believe it but I live in Allegheny County, PA. I can really be Duh.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,393 posts)
15. Here's what Nevada looks like, with an estimated 87 percent of votes counted
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:28 PM
Nov 2020
Here's what Nevada looks like, with an estimated 87 percent of votes counted https://wapo.st/3evoMEf


Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
22. The PUBLIC Perception is way more important.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:34 PM
Nov 2020

The longer these states sit out there the more the Public will grow distrustful of the results.

Just how it is.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
27. Public perception is important. And if the network gets it wrong, it's a major mess
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:29 PM
Nov 2020

I have no problem with them being careful and waiting. The only people who seem upset that they haven't called it are people who want Biden declared the winner - and I don't think any of us are feeling like the results can't be trusted if the networks wait to have more information before calling it.

Some people waited in line for hours to vote. We can wait a day or two to get the results.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
26. And the real legal standing doesn't happen until Dec 14
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

It's only official when the Electoral College votes.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
18. What's the rush?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:32 PM
Nov 2020

Better to be accurate than quick. If NV declared him this very moment, it still wouldn't end the deliberations or the count, so wouldn't change anything as yet. Let all the states finish their counts and make their final announcements as determined.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
24. The MSM is probably hesitating (and of so, rightly) to wait for a Wisconsin-like situation
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 04:36 PM
Nov 2020

When Wisconsin said "all votes have been counted, and Biden wins," there was no dispute left that would hold water. If the Trumpanzees want to sue for a greater share of 0%, we can't stop them, but luck arguing THAT before a judge, and good luck to their lawyers' accountants who try to get their billable hours paid.

Making America Grimace Again. It should be routine by now.

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