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Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

What happened in New Hampshire?

Disclosure: Iíve been to NH on vacation in the fall numerous times, but I really donít know much about politics there, except they have one of the early primaries and they kinda pride themselves on being politically active.

It seems so crazy to me that Biden won NH by almost 60,000 votes, and Jean Shaheen won her reelection by 125,000. They also re-elected their 2 Dem house representatives. So far, so good. How then did NH vote to flip both their massive state House and their small state Senate from Dem to Republican control in a census year with state-level redistricting at stake?

Seriously, I am trying to understand that. On the surface it makes no sense.

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moose65 Nov 2020 OP
SomedayKindaLove Nov 2020 #1
sweetloukillbot Nov 2020 #2
moose65 Nov 2020 #5
Dem2 Nov 2020 #6
Celerity Nov 2020 #9
Dem2 Nov 2020 #11
former9thward Nov 2020 #13
moose65 Nov 2020 #16
Dem2 Nov 2020 #17
Celerity Nov 2020 #18
OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #7
OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #3
PatSeg Nov 2020 #4
moose65 Nov 2020 #8
PatSeg Nov 2020 #10
Dem2 Nov 2020 #12
PatSeg Nov 2020 #15
Marius25 Nov 2020 #14

Response to moose65 (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

1. They love their Sheehan in NH

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Response to SomedayKindaLove (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

2. Libertarian state

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:00 PM

5. Not really

They seem to love sending Democrats to DC, but they have a secret affair with Republicans at home!

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:02 PM

6. Nah, that was a failed experiment in the 80's

It's a blue state now.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:08 PM

9. I am wary of the vermin Sununu or maybe Ayotte against Hassan in 2022 (mid-terms for 1st term POTUS)

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Response to Celerity (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:16 PM

11. I am too.

The tradition of a governor term-limiting out and running for Senate is a tradition here.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:22 PM

13. A blue state with a red state legislature?

Ok...

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Response to former9thward (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:29 PM

16. Makes no sense

Their state House has like 400 members for a state population of 1.4 million, so itís subject to wild swings. The senate is tiny by comparison: 24 members.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:30 PM

17. It was blue until 2 days ago

It was Republican for like 100 years, so there's still lots of old-school Republicans here. Several blue states have Republican legislatures.

I don't understand local politics that well, and I wasn't raised here.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:43 PM

18. New England is the only US region that is remotely like anything in the EU. The far NW

(only the parts centred on the Pacific coast) of the US would be 2nd. Parts of Southern and Northern California 3rd. SOME parts of NYC 4th. Nothing else is very comparable.

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Response to sweetloukillbot (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:02 PM

7. Well, in theory anyway. Reality, not so much.

I getting this book- "A Libertarian Walks into a Bear"

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50358538-a-libertarian-walks-into-a-bear

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Response to moose65 (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

3. NH ihas been trending blue for awhile. Lots of people live in NH and work in MA and ME.

The days of rock ribbed Yankee Republicans are a thing of the past.

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Response to moose65 (Original post)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

4. I live in New Hampshire

and honestly, I don't understand it either. Chris Sununu was reelected as governor as well and he openly bragged about being a Trump guy.

I've only been in New Hampshire for ten years, so I still don't get their politics. Our former governor Maggie Hassan is now our junior senator, so both our senators are Democratic women. I don't understand how Sununu got such a huge win. The best I can guess is the political ads against the Dems had to do with tax threats (sales tax or income tax).

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:02 PM

8. Same old thing, huh?

Doesnít matter which state. Republicans always try to scare people with the old ďDems will raise your taxes.Ē

I know NH has no general sales or income taxes. Property tax there must be massive.

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Response to moose65 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:15 PM

10. It is a huge deal here

Republicans keep trying to spook people about Democrats trying to make New Hampshire more like Massachusetts, with all their high taxes and eek, socialism. Of the ads I've seen on Facebook, they used these arguments against some Democratic candidates. The problem is that if you're not paying sales tax or income tax, you're being taxed somewhere else in the form of fees and property tax, but so many can't see that.

They would rather "Live free or die, than pay a damn sales tax"!

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:18 PM

12. It's a guaranteed loss

Not sure why any Democrat would venture into such a place if they want to win.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:28 PM

15. For the most part

they seem to like their Democratic governors. Shaheen was elected governor three times and senator twice. Maggie Hassan was elected governor twice and went on to become a senator. John Lynch was governor for four terms.

Democrats can do very well here, but there is an odd mix of republicans, Libertarians, and Democrats.

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Response to moose65 (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:26 PM

14. Property taxes there are obscene.

My parents are considering retiring there, and in a lot of districts, a $500,000 house is like $13,000 in property taxes.

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