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Heh. Jo Jorgenson is helping to sink Trump in Arizona and Georgia. (Libertarian candidate) (Original Post) yellowcanine Nov 2020 OP
Not sure those would have been Trump votes. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #1
I was an election judge (Colorado) and one of my jobs was to take ballots out of envelopes beveeheart Nov 2020 #15
Not surprising. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #22
Nothing I'd like to see more cilla4progress Nov 2020 #2
Was Kanye still on the ballot in some states? BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #3
Kanye West Gets 60,000 Votes For U.S. President Across 12 States IrishEyes Nov 2020 #4
I wonder how much each of those votes cost him, BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #7
It was at least 5.9 million dollars. IrishEyes Nov 2020 #8
Almost 1300 people in Vermont voted for him? Marius25 Nov 2020 #14
Here in Tennessee, Kanye got 10,216 votes, or 0.3%. Tanuki Nov 2020 #6
Is she rw leaning libertarian? Cha Nov 2020 #5
Libertarians Republicans who want to smoke pot grantcart Nov 2020 #11
Ah.. TY.. amazing she didn't get Cha Nov 2020 #16
No one grantcart Nov 2020 #23
TY... so that's a lot of libertarians Cha Nov 2020 #24
Yup, sit in their porch with a gun in one hand and a bong in the other TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #25
Her positions are pretty close to Trump's Klaralven Nov 2020 #9
TY for that.. I have not paid Cha Nov 2020 #17
Her criminal justice reform goes further than Trump including ending "qualified immunity" JonLP24 Nov 2020 #19
The Jill Stein of 2020 BainsBane Nov 2020 #10
It is not clear that the Libertarian candidate takes more votes from Republicans. StevieM Nov 2020 #18
Excellent! Cha Nov 2020 #20
Now I'm wondering if I should have listened to my husband democrattotheend Nov 2020 #12
Third party candidates are a great place to peel away votes crickets Nov 2020 #13
We don't know that those votes came from Trump rather than Biden. StevieM Nov 2020 #21

TwilightZone

(25,429 posts)
1. Not sure those would have been Trump votes.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:08 AM
Nov 2020

Normally, one would think so, but in this context, they could be never-Trumpers who also didn't want to vote for Biden, so they voted Jo as a protest, then supported Rs down-ticket.

Of course, Trump doesn't do nuance and would assume they would have all been his.

beveeheart

(1,369 posts)
15. I was an election judge (Colorado) and one of my jobs was to take ballots out of envelopes
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:29 AM
Nov 2020

to prepare them for scanning. Every Kanye West vote I noticed had down-ticket votes for Republicans. Additionally, most of the write-ins also had Republicans down-ticket.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
4. Kanye West Gets 60,000 Votes For U.S. President Across 12 States
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:11 AM
Nov 2020
https://deadline.com/2020/11/kanye-west-gets-60000-votes-across-12-states-in-u-s-presidential-race-1234608903/

Arkansas: 4,040
Colorado: 6,254
Idaho: 3,631
Iowa: 3,202
Kentucky: 6,259
Louisiana: 4,894
Minnesota: 7,789
Mississippi: 3,277
Oklahoma: 5,590
Tennessee: 10,216
Utah: 4,344
Vermont: 1,265

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/03/930950719/kanye-west-says-hes-voting-for-the-only-candidate-he-can-really-trust

Cha

(296,878 posts)
16. Ah.. TY.. amazing she didn't get
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:32 AM
Nov 2020

more votes.

So do you think she messed with trump's totals in Arizona & Georgia?

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. No one
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:50 AM
Nov 2020

I bet my friend, who is deep into AZ Democratic politics that she wouldn't get 2 %. Libertarians usually do well in AZ but I know people either love or hate Trump and would skip third party this time.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,148 posts)
25. Yup, sit in their porch with a gun in one hand and a bong in the other
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:05 AM
Nov 2020

But even the Libertarians are split when it comes to abortion. Some think it shouldn't be legislated at all (essentially pro-choice) and others feel the fetus must be free to be born (pro-birth).

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
19. Her criminal justice reform goes further than Trump including ending "qualified immunity"
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:35 AM
Nov 2020

She also supports abolishing ICE.

'Republicans who smoke pot' ... and want to abolish ICE

At a recent forum hosted by the California Libertarian Party, presidential candidates made a resounding case for open borders, as reported by debate moderator Matt Welch of Reason magazine. Their administrations would end immigration enforcement, or “Abolish ICE,” to borrow a leftist protest chant.

“It’s a police state, and there’s only one solution to it: Dismantle it all. People have a fundamental, God-given right to cross borders like human beings and not die of thirst and dehydration in the desert and on the back of eighteen-wheelers,” candidate Jacob Hornberger said.

https://www.thegazette.com/subject/opinion/staff-columnist/republicans-who-smoke-pot-iowa-libertarian-party-2020-presidential-candidates-20200304



StevieM

(10,500 posts)
18. It is not clear that the Libertarian candidate takes more votes from Republicans.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:34 AM
Nov 2020

A lot of people simply want to cast a protest vote, and they have vaguely heard of Libertarians. But in 2016 I saw polling which indicated that Gary Johnson was taking more votes from Clinton.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
12. Now I'm wondering if I should have listened to my husband
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:20 AM
Nov 2020

He encouraged me to vote for Jorgenson in New York to help the LP keep its ballot access, which it's in danger of losing due to Cuomo expanding the number of votes needed to keep it. I considered it, because I knew Biden didn't need my vote and I figure having Libertarians on the ballot might help Democrats in close House or legislative races in the future, but in the end I couldn't do it.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
13. Third party candidates are a great place to peel away votes
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:24 AM
Nov 2020

from the main candidates and hide them. Just sayin'.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
21. We don't know that those votes came from Trump rather than Biden.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:37 AM
Nov 2020

In 2016 I saw polling which indicated that Gary Johnson was taking more votes from Clinton than from Trump.

A lot of people just want to cast a protest vote, and are vaguely familiar with the Libertarian Party, so they pick the Libertarian candidate over other 3rd party candidates.

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