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So I hear Trump is only the 9th president in American history (Original Post) EarlG Nov 2020 OP
and probably the most deserving malaise Nov 2020 #1
I can hear him right now: "But, but, was I really that bad?" Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #2
Naah. He'd never say that - no honest self awareness, none to be precise. sarge43 Nov 2020 #33
He'll claim he's the one who won. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2020 #43
One Term Loser 2020! Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #3
As George Takei tweeted earlier, #Trump2020 is calimary Nov 2020 #47
Sucker! Loser! liberalla Nov 2020 #4
10: unblock Nov 2020 #5
Well that's what I get for listening to CNN EarlG Nov 2020 #11
DU is definitely smarter than CNN. Laelth Nov 2020 #18
Maybe they said 5th in the last 100 years? unblock Nov 2020 #20
I don't think that's what they said EarlG Nov 2020 #26
depends on the wording unblock Nov 2020 #28
Let's just go with . . . Ultraviolet Cat Nov 2020 #41
John Adams losing to Thomas Jefferson (1800).... lastlib Nov 2020 #36
Pos russian ASSet! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #6
I wonder if he knows that Obama was a 2 term President. Squinch Nov 2020 #7
Count 'em. n/t Laelth Nov 2020 #8
That sounded low so I went to look. I know John Adams was the first. TheOther95Percent Nov 2020 #9
I corrected the OP EarlG Nov 2020 #16
Trump will be the 10th TheOther95Percent Nov 2020 #21
Technically Ford doesn't count EarlG Nov 2020 #23
Andrew Johnson, who like trump was impeached, also tried and failed to win re-election fishwax Nov 2020 #17
Impeached Homicidal Maniac, Psychopathic Lying Cha Nov 2020 #10
If it wasn't for the spineless rethugs, he would have been thrown out after he was KewlKat Nov 2020 #12
One Trick Trump. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #13
hmm ... I can think of six fishwax Nov 2020 #14
I corrected the OP EarlG Nov 2020 #15
one things clear: trump is a loser of historical proportions! fishwax Nov 2020 #19
Ah, sweet irony! moose65 Nov 2020 #38
the best defeat fishwax Nov 2020 #42
Yep! moose65 Nov 2020 #45
It does show how hard it is to get an incumbent out of office underpants Nov 2020 #22
trump did make history with respect to this accomplishment Gothmog Nov 2020 #24
Without looking it up the previous 4 are... Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #25
Yep. dalton99a Nov 2020 #27
Sometimes Uncle Sam shows his moves, when he feels like it DFW Nov 2020 #50
We need serious election reform IronLionZion Nov 2020 #29
We certainly need SOMETHING done moose65 Nov 2020 #39
Say it with me! "ONE TERM LOSER!" apnu Nov 2020 #30
bydon, so long jarjarvanka and idiot kushner. AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #31
Loser! BlueJac Nov 2020 #32
While I will be glad Bear Creek Nov 2020 #34
I agree, my dear Bear Creek! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2020 #37
First president to twice lose the popular vote jayschool2013 Nov 2020 #35
But he's the first in the 21st century! MyMission Nov 2020 #40
And it's a big loss. Best loss ever. No one loses like he does. People say he's the best person NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #44
I would love to tweet this at the TWEETER in chief yuiyoshida Nov 2020 #46
That may be Danascot Nov 2020 #48
let's state it more simply Skittles Nov 2020 #49

sarge43

(28,940 posts)
33. Naah. He'd never say that - no honest self awareness, none to be precise.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:15 AM
Nov 2020

The reptilian voices in his head are screaming; "You're The Alpha Male, The Best and Everything Is Yours!"

The clinical term is bat shit crazy.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
5. 10:
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:29 AM
Nov 2020

Although you could say Ford doesn't count because he was never elected to a first term as president, and also Cleveland because four years after he lost re-election he did win a second term.

But even that way, it's 8:

(Edit for Bette link
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/how-many-us-presidents-lost-second-term-b1640998.html

EarlG

(21,934 posts)
11. Well that's what I get for listening to CNN
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:36 AM
Nov 2020

They said he was the fifth this morning. I shall edit the OP.

EarlG

(21,934 posts)
26. I don't think that's what they said
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

But it could be what they meant. I still don't think Ford counts though?

lastlib

(23,152 posts)
36. John Adams losing to Thomas Jefferson (1800)....
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:27 AM
Nov 2020

wasn't much of a popular-vote election, as I understand. So not sure we can count him as being defeated at the ballot-box.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
9. That sounded low so I went to look. I know John Adams was the first.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:34 AM
Nov 2020

This article says 10 incumbent presidents have lost re-election. I have not independently verified the information but it jibes with what I know about American presidential history.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/how-many-us-presidents-lost-second-term-b1640998.html

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
21. Trump will be the 10th
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Grover Cleveland
Benjamin Harrison
William Howard Taft
Herbert Hoover
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
George HW Bush
Donald J. Trump

EarlG

(21,934 posts)
23. Technically Ford doesn't count
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

since he wasn't running for re-election, because he was never elected president in the first place.

fishwax

(29,148 posts)
17. Andrew Johnson, who like trump was impeached, also tried and failed to win re-election
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

though in his case he failed at the party level, losing the nomination fight at the party convention

Cha

(296,835 posts)
10. Impeached Homicidal Maniac, Psychopathic Lying
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

Traitor.

Thank Goodness We All Did IT & Thank Joe Biden & Kamala Harris & Everybody who worked so hard for Democracy!

Joe came out so calm & reassuring Wednesday night and here we are!

fishwax

(29,148 posts)
14. hmm ... I can think of six
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:37 AM
Nov 2020

Bush I
Carter
Ford
Hoover
Benjamin Harrison
Grover Cleveland (two terms, but lost to Harrison after his first term before coming back to beat Harrison the next time around)

moose65

(3,166 posts)
38. Ah, sweet irony!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:55 AM
Nov 2020

Trump LOVES to label everything he does as "unprecedented" and "historic," so I'll be glad to talk about his historic defeat.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
22. It does show how hard it is to get an incumbent out of office
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:45 AM
Nov 2020

Frankly the DNC messed up all over and got themselves pinned in with protesters and BLM. It looks like Trump lost but it was really close despite his horrendous performance.

Look at W, he cleared got caught lying ya into a war but yet he still rode 9/11 to a second term. Obama came into a mess and had a relentless coordinated media attack on him but he was able to be re-elected. Poppa Bush had the misfortune of a dipping economy and an incredible campaign/candidate in Clinton.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
29. We need serious election reform
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:07 AM
Nov 2020

to make sure people can vote and have their votes counted. It should be obvious there are serious problems that can be fixed. Biden should put Stacy Abrams in charge of it.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
39. We certainly need SOMETHING done
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:59 AM
Nov 2020

Uniform requirements in each state for federal elections.

Early voting available for at least two weeks in ALL states.

Mail-in ballot options available in ALL states.

Universal voter registration, unless you take action to opt out.

Enough polling places for everyone, paid for with federal money.

Uniform standards for counting votes after the election. All this hodgepodge of state rules needs to GO.

Is any of this possible? I know there are things in the constitution about elections, but I don't have time to look it up right now!

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
34. While I will be glad
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:18 AM
Nov 2020

To see Trump get fired. This post seems to have forgotten Jimmy Carter. He is a decent and Christian man that only held 1 term. I don't know if he checks this site but this post would be horrible for him to see.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,523 posts)
37. I agree, my dear Bear Creek!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:30 AM
Nov 2020

I was extremely upset that he lost to Reagan, of all people!

He has certainly gone on to do great things. He is a true patriot.

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
40. But he's the first in the 21st century!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:20 PM
Nov 2020

He always wants to be the winner. And let's not forget he wanted 3 terms, and a kingdom which he would pass to whichever child came out on top! He's been disappointed on various levels.

Ha Ha Ha!

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
44. And it's a big loss. Best loss ever. No one loses like he does. People say he's the best person
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:34 PM
Nov 2020

to lose an election. The ballots. Most ballots ever that weren't cast for him.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
46. I would love to tweet this at the TWEETER in chief
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:55 PM
Nov 2020

He will most likely ignore it. But it will stew in him for weeks!

Skittles

(153,111 posts)
49. let's state it more simply
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 10:21 PM
Nov 2020

HE'S THE ONLY PRESIDENT TO EVER LOSE THE POPULAR VOTE TWICE

* L O S E R * ! ! ! ! !

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