Anyone remember Rove's statement about them creating their own reality?

[Just_Vote_Dem]

Looks like the GOP is doing that right now

EDIT: May not have been Rove-it was an unnamed official

[dustyscamp]

1. I reject your reality and substitute my own.

[cilla4progress]

2. One of the sick fux at the bottom

Of this.

My fondest hope is the Republican party splits in 2.

[robbob]

14. Well that happened in Canada.

The conservatives split in 2, a couple election cycles later they kissed and made up and we ended up with Stephen Harper for almost 10 years. So be careful what you wish for...

[unblock]

3. here's the full quote:

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/846190-we-re-an-empire-now-and-when-we-act-we-create



"creating our own reality," of course, is better known as "delusion".

[Just_Vote_Dem]

5. Thanks n/t

[Captain Zero]

10. I thought that was Cheney

maybe not

[DBoon]

12. There is a quote from 1984 about The Party creating reality

that fits very well here

[Nancy Waterman]

4. Yes, that was an important moment

He was talking to the press, something like: "You guys are always trying to find the facts. You will always be trying to catch up but you never will. What you don't understand is that we just create the facts to fit our agenda."

It was clearly the template for all that has happened since regarding the GOP.

Just read the real quote above. Thanks for posting it. It was far more compelling than my memory of it.

[live love laugh]

6. They always have. Nothing is new with them. nt

[Xipe Totec]

7. Reality Based Community

The phrase was attributed by journalist Ron Suskind to an unnamed official in the George W. Bush administration who used it to denigrate a critic of the administration's policies as someone who based their judgments on facts. In a 2004 article appearing in the New York Times Magazine, Suskind wrote:

The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.

International relations scholar Fred Halliday writes that the phrase reality-based community (in contrast to faith-based community) was used "for those who did not share (the Bush administration's) international goals and aspirations". The source of the quotation was guessed to be Bush's senior advisor Karl Rove, although Rove has denied saying it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

[Just_Vote_Dem]

9. Thanks. I updated my post. n/t

[Thomas Hurt]

8. Governance through the sympathetic magic of christofascist ideology...

Magical thinkers devoid of reason and critical thinking skills, ranting and babbling; and doing exactly this.

[Big Blue Marble]

11. I have remembered often for four years.

It was Rove.

[treestar]

13. That only goes so far

They are coming up against the brick wall.

[Midnight Writer]

15. I remember it every day.