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Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:42 PM

Why the Social Security Age Should NOT Be raised!! - Koch Bros Bent on Destroying SS/Video Proof...

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Raising the age of benefits is the #1 Distortion the Koch bros are feeding into the echo chamber.

From Koch Brothers Exposed (3min-47 sec clip):





From TYT (5min-51sec clip):



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Reply Why the Social Security Age Should NOT Be raised!! - Koch Bros Bent on Destroying SS/Video Proof... (Original post)
Indi Guy Oct 2012 OP
Warpy Oct 2012 #1
Indi Guy Oct 2012 #2
dkf Oct 2012 #3
Indi Guy Oct 2012 #4
Indi Guy Oct 2012 #9
Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #11
Indi Guy Oct 2012 #5
Samantha Oct 2012 #6
Indi Guy Oct 2012 #8
Samantha Oct 2012 #10
AzDar Oct 2012 #7

Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 05:50 PM

1. Desk jockeys just don't realize what real work does to the human body

but if they want to raise their own retirement age, that's peachy. Otherwise, we'll see what will happen anyway, the retirement age for people who do hard work lowered to 55 through Social Security Disability.

It's just stupid to make people jump through so many hoops to get it.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:05 PM

2. Those who want to raise the age...

...have no concerns whatsoever about workers' well being. Watch the clips.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:17 PM

3. The easiest way to destroy it is to over promise and make it impossible to pay.

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 06:35 PM

4. Please clarify... n/t

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Response to dkf (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 10:54 AM

9. I'm still...

...not quite sure what you mean.

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Response to dkf (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 08:43 PM

11. Fuck you

and the troll you rode in on.

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 10:22 PM

5. Here's a few more little tidbits...

Koch and Adelson campaign money tests integrity of election:

The conventions provided opportunity to hear the candidates, but not much about their backers. President Obama' strength is drawing modest donations from working-class Americans, but the Republican money in 2012 is overwhelmingly coming from a few billionaires, especially the Koch brothers and Sheldon Adelson.

Dave Koch ran as the Libertarian vice presidential candidate in 1980 on a platform to abolish Social Security and corporate taxes
. He was also against campaign spending limits, and he and his brother evidently now realize that this opens the door to the other two goals. Adelson is also grateful for the Supreme Court's convenient outlook that money has nothing to do with corruption, stating in a jaw-dropping admission of what moral integrity means to him: "I'm against very wealthy people attempting to or influencing elections, but as long as it's doable, I'm going to do it."['b]


What monumental hypocritical hubris eh?!

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Mon Oct 1, 2012, 11:43 PM

6. Republicans I know constantly tell me Social Security is going broke and should be privatized

I consistently say Social Security is not broke, it has a 2.6 Trillion Dollar Surplus, backed up by US Treasury Notes, which according to the U.S. Government are the safest investment in the world, and it was always intended to be an an insurance policy against poverty, not an investment vehicle.

Sam

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Response to Samantha (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 03:22 AM

8. Exactly - And the fear mongers know that Social Security is solvent...

...But (because they are bought & paid for by the likes of the Koch bros.) Republican politicians routinely play Chicken Little card & try to stampede the public into compromising on the benefits of a system they paid for!

It's nothing short of criminal what they're doing!

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Response to Indi Guy (Reply #8)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 08:30 PM

10. Yes it is

It is fraud to try and deprive seniors of benefits they have paid for for decades. In the case of babyboomers, starting with the 1982-1983 compromise, we overpaid social security and medicare taxes to cover the drain our mass retirement would cause on the system. That overpayment is in the trust fund. In theory, when the babyboomer retirement is finished, the system will revert back to normal in terms of numbers of retirees and the massive strain caused by babyboomers' retirement will ease. To even discuss privatizing the system, and causing the retirees to absorb those transition costs, estimated to be 3 Trillion in 2003 but obviously much more now, by taking reduced benefits is outrageous.

Sam

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Response to Indi Guy (Original post)

Tue Oct 2, 2012, 12:21 AM

7. K & R

 

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