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Iowa and Ohio are the past. (Original Post) Dawson Leery Nov 2020 OP
I don't think the Dems should concede any battleground RAB910 Nov 2020 #1
The Florida Democrats need new leadership. Dawson Leery Nov 2020 #8
Can't argue that RAB910 Nov 2020 #11
There is something fishy going on in Florida. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #12
something downright criminal has happened in Miami-Dade. bullimiami Nov 2020 #16
Yup. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #20
i think they F-d up the crime. up to now they have been careful to do the theft by ants. bullimiami Nov 2020 #23
LOL! Nothing says amateur and incompetence like over-exceeding the necessary numbers and Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #24
'no longer hold onto swing states of the past?' elleng Nov 2020 #2
This is Monday morning QBing Stallion Nov 2020 #3
No it is film room study exboyfil Nov 2020 #14
We always need a 50 state strategy. Leave no one behind. nt Sogo Nov 2020 #4
+1000 Celerity Nov 2020 #29
Florida is a category unto itself WSHazel Nov 2020 #5
Florida Dems have not done a successful outreach. Baitball Blogger Nov 2020 #22
The consistently wrong Dowd... Grins Nov 2020 #6
THIS. roamer65 Nov 2020 #9
Florida and Ohio have something in common edhopper Nov 2020 #7
That is because of Repuke election fraud and voter suppression. roamer65 Nov 2020 #10
Yep. edhopper Nov 2020 #15
very perceptive, Mr. Hopper icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #19
No awesomerwb1 Nov 2020 #13
I need a solid blue Florida in my lifetime In It to Win It Nov 2020 #17
How about we focus on finding a way... stillcool Nov 2020 #18
Agreed, not a lot of hope for Ohio. blueinredohio Nov 2020 #21
This is a bad idea as written. Renew Deal Nov 2020 #25
Florida was not a blowout, and we came within 1 point of winning it in 2016. StevieM Nov 2020 #26
FLA requires a ton of money to be win elections in that state. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #27
I don't agree on FL is a purple state. TX I don't know rockfordfile Nov 2020 #28
With PA WI and MI hanging by a thread Tribetime Nov 2020 #30
Consider the source JHB Nov 2020 #31

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
12. There is something fishy going on in Florida.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:50 PM
Nov 2020

Certainly, it would be worth it to find out what it is before they export it to other states.

bullimiami

(13,043 posts)
16. something downright criminal has happened in Miami-Dade.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:53 PM
Nov 2020

No way in the world the numbers make any sense whatsoever.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
20. Yup.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:08 PM
Nov 2020

It might involve checking the last 200000 new voter registrations to confirm they're valid people, or checking to make sure that the electronic machines didn't flip big number for Trump.

bullimiami

(13,043 posts)
23. i think they F-d up the crime. up to now they have been careful to do the theft by ants.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:13 PM
Nov 2020

small numbers of votes here, there everywhere.

i think this time they blew out and if there is any trail to be followed it will lead to a real stinker of electoral fraud.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
24. LOL! Nothing says amateur and incompetence like over-exceeding the necessary numbers and
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:28 PM
Nov 2020

setting off the red flags.

WSHazel

(159 posts)
5. Florida is a category unto itself
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:46 PM
Nov 2020

There is no other state like it in the country. I don't think Democrats have done a great job on outreach or targeted selling in that state.

I tend to agree that Ohio and Iowa are low probability targets going forward.

Baitball Blogger

(46,576 posts)
22. Florida Dems have not done a successful outreach.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:11 PM
Nov 2020

It's a Florida backwater problem. Too much desire to stay in good with the backwater networks that tap into Republican relationships.

You can't represent all the newcomers that come into Florida, at the same time that you're trying to protect the status quo that keeps things resistant to change.

Grins

(7,134 posts)
6. The consistently wrong Dowd...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020

How about this: Get rid of the Electoral College and there will be no more “swing states”!

awesomerwb1

(4,256 posts)
13. No
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:51 PM
Nov 2020

We play in every state, we just have to find the right people like Abrams and Beto (or close enough as both are truly special) to help the party expand.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
18. How about we focus on finding a way...
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:06 PM
Nov 2020

to have safe, accurate, and free elections wherever the eff they are? Or, how about we focus on finding away to educate the people, wherever the eff they are?

Renew Deal

(81,801 posts)
25. This is a bad idea as written.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

There is a message for people in OH, FL, IA, ID, KS, and CA. It might be a tougher sell, but everyone should be considered.

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
26. Florida was not a blowout, and we came within 1 point of winning it in 2016.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

We need to redouble our efforts with Latinos, and especially Cuban-Americans.

It would be crazy to write off Florida. Ohio and Iowa are admittedly Republican-leaning. But Florida is still a purple state.

Texas is still light red, but it is gradually becoming purple. Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina are definitely battleground states, along with the 2nd Congressional District of Nebraska.

Yavin4

(35,357 posts)
27. FLA requires a ton of money to be win elections in that state.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:35 PM
Nov 2020

It has expensive media markets in Miami, Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville. GA, on the other hand, is realtively inexpensive with a large and growing African American population in Atlanta.

It will take a lot of money and work to make FLA reliably blue. Less so in GA.

Tribetime

(4,670 posts)
30. With PA WI and MI hanging by a thread
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

With this doofus running is a little depressing. Hopefully it was do to outside forces we can correct in future

JHB

(37,132 posts)
31. Consider the source
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 03:05 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks, Matt, but given your track record I think we'll do just fine by disregarding this advice.

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