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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm glad. But I'm not joyful. I'm still dealing with the worst trauma of my lifetime.
On Tuesday morning I believed the American electorate would soundly and decisively reject the GOPs politics of fear, greed, hate and division by a margin vastly greater than Hillary Clintons narrow popular vote win in 2016. The narrowness of that victory allowed the GOP to steal the Executive Branch using the Electoral College. I really believed that rejection would happen- not just believed, apparently, but was certain the way Im certain that when I pick up an Agatha Christie mystery, Poirot or Miss Marple will find the murderer and justice will ultimately be served.
On Wednesday morning it appeared that not only had Americans not done that, but a greater percentage of Americans who have been brutalized and exploited by GOP evil and incompetence actually voted FOR [Redacted] and the GOP: Black men and white women.
And Joe Biden, who ran on a platform of decency and competence, narrowly managed to eke out a win currently being disputed with sufficient credibility to perhaps put the specter of another 2000 Supreme Court intervention in play.
Narrowly managed to eke out a win. After four years of Americans watching the GOP and its minions tear children from their parents and put them in cages and effectively orphan more than 500 kids. After more than 240,000 Americans died from a pandemic that was ignored, downplayed and mismanaged by the GOP. After multiple attempts by the GOP to repeal the Affordable Care Act and/or deny coverage to Americans with pre-existing health conditions. During a pandemic. After millions of jobs have been lost. Narrowly managed to eke out a win.
I cant come to terms with this.
Nor will I blame the Democratic Party for not being progressive enough, for being too progressive, for infighting, for whatever lackluster sins the Democratic Party bureaucracy may have managed to commit over the 4 years since 2016, much less past derelictions, real and imagined.
When the choice is between a clearly demonstrated, existential threat from a morally bankrupt, viciously corrupt and incompetent ideology and Something Else, people who care about the future of their communities, their grandchildren and their nation choose Something Else. Responsible, moral, ethical caring human beings choose Something Else, even if it is a flawed Democratic Party. And especially if that Partys representative has made a compelling case for themselves as a competent, decent, ethical human being willing to govern on principles of listening to all, balancing competing interests with compassion, and restoring the Executive Branchs ability to promote the well-being of Americas most vulnerable people.
Clearly, the America I believed I lived in, where a substantial majority of voting-age citizens are people who do care about the future of their communities, their grandchildren and their nation, was an illusion. The America I thought I was part of, with a large majority of responsible, moral, ethical, caring human beings, was a mirage. I was delusional.
The original Star Trek series had an episode called Mirror, Mirror in which a transporter malfunction threw Enterprise crew members into a parallel universe. Instead of serving a Federation dedicated to promoting peace, exploration, and equity among diverse peoples, Starfleet was the thuggish strongarm of a Terran Empire greedy for conquest and willing to enforce its will with genocide. Instead of a shipboard culture of respect for one another and a clear, organized path of achievement and advancement, promotion was achieved by assassination and punishment for those who failed or disobeyed superiors involved torture.
On Wednesday November 4th, I woke up in that Mirror universe.
I am still processing this.
I recognize my responsibility for my own unrealistic beliefs, though I hadnt thought they were quite so unrealistic or quite so deeply and inherently a part of who I am.
I recognize that yes, there are still many- even that narrow majority of- Americans who are the kind of people I believed Americans are.
I recognize that yes, that narrowly-won victory, if we can hang onto it, gives us a chance to work toward something better, by millimeters if not by the great strides I hoped we were about to take.
I recognize all those things.
But I have spent the past four years with every spiritual muscle clenched, every nerve taut, every breath contingent on a better future I knew would arrive on November 3rd, 2020.
And I am tired beyond tired, and devastated, and shamed, and grieving.
No, I dont want to talk about it with people who want to tell me its not as bad as I think, or people who offer hope I might not be seeing right now, or people who have good ideas about self-care and healing and moving on and making the most of what opportunities we do have.
Not yet.
Ill get there.
But not for a while.
Im not who I thought I was, America isnt the place I believed in.
I need time to parse this out. I need time to explore the inside narrative. I need the trauma to recede a bit. I need to look elsewhere for a while, rather than stirring through the ashes to find artifacts that survived intact or somewhat intact.
I need to get reacquainted with myself, maybe reinvent who I am, a bit harder, a bit more resilient, a bit less naïve and vulnerable and stupid, but hopefully still ethical and compassionate.
I need to grieve my fantasy America, the place I lived in for more than 6 decades that stopped existing quite a while ago, and maybe never existed.
It could have been worse, I know. And I am glad that we have saved something from the wreckage, and will do my best to support Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in the appallingly difficult task of trying to save an America divided, and assure a better future for the nearly half of Americans who would prefer hatred and fear and racism and patriarchy and greed and division. I will.
But not today. Not for a while, yet.
exhaustedly,
Much Dimmer Bright
BKDem
(1,733 posts)voted for the economy per exit polls. That tells you how selfish Americans are.
barbtries
(28,769 posts)it's all i did.
today i will celebrate. but it is certainly a bitter pill to accept that the name of my country is a misnomer.
I'm losing a brother, my only remaining lifelong friend, colleagues i can no longer stand, and trust. now when i leave the house (which i never do because pandemic), i'll be looking at everyone i encounter and wondering if they hate my guts because I'm a liberal.
TygrBright
(20,755 posts)"Are you one of them?"
It will be hard to keep that from going through my head, toxic as I know it is.
sadly,
Bright
bedazzled
(1,760 posts)They can seem normal, but then WHAM
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)samnsara
(17,606 posts)...and how the hell did half of america believe in this con man? I finally got up at 3 am and turned tv on and saw Joe has won wisconsin. I knew then it was going our way. I took some benadryl and went back to bed.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)I share in your dismay.
bedazzled
(1,760 posts)I comfort myself with my inherent feeling that there was massive fraud. There are too many aspects that don't make sense in thug-controlled states loke florida.
karin_sj
(808 posts)Voting machines can be hacked. Moscow Mitch wouldnt pass any bills to protect our election. I dont think the two are unrelated.
Kali
(55,004 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)I am.72 and when I was growing up racism was the norm
A lot of people were awful. A lot if blacks died awful deaths for mo other reason than that they were uppity.
We didn't really realize what was going on because we didn't live in a mixed society. White people lived in one part of town. Blacks in another part if town. Chinese lived in China Town.
I knew about the awfulness, the KKK. The John Burch Society but I lived the the NW and just didn't see that kind of stuff. To us it was just in the South.
The difference now is that Trump allowed people to talk about it, brag about it, act on it. He allowed it.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)That would Hoover, Carter and Bush1. This is a great outcome. And we still have a chance at the Senate so please stop.
meadowlander
(4,388 posts)ripped babies out of their parents' arms and threw them in cages with no plan to reunite them,
threatened to throw their political enemies in jail,
said Nazis were very fine people,
colluded with a hostile foreign power to steal the election... twice.
There's no point comparing Trump to past incumbents. Or telling people not to feel what they feel.
Trump getting more than 10% of the vote was America failing. Not catastrophically. But failing nonetheless. And it's fine to work through your sadness about it as long as you wake up pissed off on the other end.
Thekaspervote
(32,710 posts)Other parts of the country as well
Wicked Blue
(5,821 posts)I feel terribly disillusioned. The America I thought I knew is a mirage. Even though my earliest disillusionment was over the Vietnam War, in my gut I still believed that the great majority of Americans were fundamentally decent humans.
I can't reconcile that belief with what we've seen of family separations, children in cages, mismanagement of the pandemic, cuts to social services, refusal to help the poor and hungry and unemployed, and determination to kill health care for millions of Americans. I didn't think that we, as a nation, were that stupid, selfish or gullible.
Some crazy part of me hopes that evidence would surface of the Russians hacking electronic voting machines and flipping votes. Just so I wouldn't think so harshly of so many other Americans.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)The dishonesty is all over once you starting looking.
I'll start, my name is not actually Brainfodder.
FirstLight
(13,357 posts)I have a hard time looking at the people around m e and grokking that so many of them are stupid and cruel at heart...that THAT nature has been the one thing that binds them is so sad and horrific to me.
I know I can wax poetic with you on this for a while, and I might have to come back and share thoughts as they come to me. But Thank You for so elequently speaking to something that really is our lingering social and soulful dilemma...
cynannmarie
(113 posts)only you expressed it more eloquently than I could.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,664 posts)I thought of it like an onion (veg.) dream, nightmare in a nightmare within a nightmare wrapped around another nightmare.
We just woke up from one nightmare, probably the scariest but now we are in another as we see the world shaping in our groggy eyes.
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)And the country that rose out of all that history with a new promise that failed most of the population, garnering power for a few, those with the right family, the right money, the skin color, the right gender.
That someone may look at Donald Trump as the apex of these inequalities. I hope he is.
I am not surprised because of our social systems of white dominance and whiteness, these toxic systems that spread poison in unexpected places or, of unaddressed misogyny. Of poorly capped capitalism that rose off the back of slave labors, or exploited workers.
I am never surprised.
What I am is enraged.
cry baby
(6,682 posts)reading/hearing of/seeing animal abuse or child/elder abuse since 2016. A freakin long time!
Ive surprised myself in my own ability to despise someone so much because theyre so evil. That word evil wasnt in my personal vocabulary until 2015. Ive fought that tendency in myself. I finally gave in to it a few months ago.
I actually hate. Thats not who Ive always been.
I have raised a glass to our success in the huge numbers we got. Ill be very happy and relieved when the thorn in our democracys side no longer has the keys to the house.
I totally get your feelings, and share them.
Behind the Aegis
(53,921 posts)I think too many of us, myself included, starting counting chickens when they were only a batch of eggs and it tuned out some of those eggs produced more gators for the swamp (Collins, Graham, Ernst, Coryrn). Like you, I also thought this would be a mandate of sorts that the bigotry, hate, divisiveness, and general fuck-wittery would be put in its place, instead, we found "its place" is in the hearts and minds of more than 70 million Americans; that is soul-crushing. It has also been hard, especially for those of us battling anxiety issues, having to hear a chorus of people on our side telling us to "SHUT UP!" and "KNOCK IT OFF!" for expressing our fears, concerns, and anxieties. I am a gay Jew; I know what hate-filled people out there are really like and that they aren't always wearing brownshirts and pointy robes, they are often dressed in nice suits, and many, dress just like me, jeans and a t-shirt and have a smile on their faces, making them indistinguishable as a threat; but, the threat is real.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)It's been a long journey already and it's not going to get easier. It is what it is.
alwaysinasnit
(5,059 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,259 posts)rwsanders
(2,594 posts)They just said "we're following this asshole" and the GOP voters loved it.
LaMouffette
(2,020 posts)Right now, I feel relieved that it looks like Biden and Harris are going to win, but I also feel almost as gut-shot as I did waking up the day after Election Day in 2016 and found out to my horror that Traitor Trump had won. How could so many people still adore Trump after being witness to four years of his atrocities?
I blame it on Fox News. I believe the people who watch Fox News are notokay, I'll say itintelligent enough and/or educated enough to avoid falling victim to the right-wing propaganda. Or maybe they are smart in a general sense, but they have no critical thinking skills. Fox viewers do not fact-check what they see and hear on Fox. They do not seek out other sources of information. They do not understand the difference between fact and opinion nor do they grasp the importance of being able to distinguish the two.
Plus, I blame good old-fashioned tribalism. A person's political party is very much a part of their self-identity. "My grandparents were Republicans. My parents are Republicans. All my friends are Republicans. And I'm a Republican." Just like you would not expect a Green Bay Packer fan to root for Dallas, it's highly unlikely for a Republican, or a Democrat, to support the other party. And that tribalism makes it all the easier for Fox News and other right-wing propagandists to foment hatred of liberals and Democrats in their viewers.
What's the solution? I have no idea. Maybe as TygrBright so beautifully puts it: "I need to look elsewhere for a while, rather than stirring through the ashes to find artifacts that survived intact or somewhat intact."
JudyM
(29,204 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)for people after 2016?
ismnotwasm
(41,967 posts)kcr
(15,315 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)Just so, the 2020 election is worse than 2016. It is easier to forgive people for voting stupidly when the thug candidate had not yet been president.
But to vote for Trump NOW, after all this?! That is shocking.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,309 posts)It's pretty clear what this country is, and as long as people hope elections will hit the reset button, they'll be disappointed.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)But I can certainly understand how people feel this week. And, objectively, it is just shocking, appalling, disgusting that 70 million Americans voted for THAT.
keopeli
(3,492 posts)abandon all hope and embrace the future of no security, no common welfare, and anarchy?
Right now, it's a toss-up for me. We'll see what happens in the coming weeks and months before I decide.
Plus, I may not have to decide. The decision of what the future has in store for us may be made elsewhere, in which case it will either be fight or flight.
Heartbreaking
biophile
(17 posts)I live and work in the part of Pennsylvania that is more like Alabama - red, red, red.
My Biden sign was the only one on my road. My veterans for Biden sign was stolen the night before the election. My other Biden sign was cut into pieces, although oddly, it was repaired and replaced. I work with people who are nearly all drumpf fans. I am continuously shocked by their inhumanity, their callous attitude towards others, and their gross admiration for a man who is so disgusting, so venal, so base, so corrupt, and so criminal. I am having a very hard time processing the closeness of this election. And an even harder time working face to face with those who gleefully with this representative of all that is terrible about human nature.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)the game, killing the major boss...
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)Walk into it then, just like your brothers. Musashi
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)They resonate strongly with me. I just cannot grasp the appeal of Trump and Republicans. I hope there is some post-election research to learn why the polls were so far off. They gave us a sense of confidence that proved not to be completely real.
I am enormously grateful that it is Biden and Harris who will head our government, but we obviously have work to do to understand what motivated nearly half of voters to choose corruption and amorality over decency and effective government. Being more effective in the 2022 election at both state levels and in Congress will be key to ensuring the future of any progressive agenda.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Republicans have made 'liberal' into a foul word. I, for one, am totally proud to be a liberal. I am so glad I'm not a self centered, self righteous, so-called Christian (when that word benefits them), liar, fraud, self centered, uncaring, unfeeling, respectful of all beings on this earth, oh my gosh, I could go on and on!!! Thank God there are Liberals in our world and I thank God I am one of them.
sandensea
(21,604 posts)I remember feeling the same way in 2000:
Besides the outright fraud in Flawrida, how could so many voters turn their back on a scholar and a gentleman like Gore, and 8 of the most successful years since FDR?
And instead embrace a semi-literate, pseudo-fascist con man like Bush? (Trump wasn't the first - and sadly, won't be the last)
So it confirmed what I think I learned in Mississippi growing up: never to underestimate how blind some voters are, and the power of hate.
It's like blood: it sticks to everything.
PNW-Dem
(244 posts)After all we've seen in the last four years, it doesn't seem reasonable to accept that Trump did so well. Are we foolishly supposed to accept this as fact? I strongly believe that there has been outside tampering with voting results to seed more chaos and discontent in the United States. Both China and Russia have a lot to gain from this. I am the farthest thing from a conspiracy theorist, but I have a difficult time accepting that there are so many misdirected people in this country.
live love laugh
(13,081 posts)handmade34
(22,756 posts)and crying when the numbers go up for Biden... these tears are the gradual letting go of 4+ years of "every spiritual muscle clenched, every nerve taut, every breath contingent on a better future" ...in these past 4 years I have learned to truly hate and I don't like that about myself
I find that I am confused and horrified that 2016 wasn't a fluke but the manifestation of half of a citizenry who care for nothing but themselves, their personal perceived wealth and destructive ideology
I am exhausted as well
Cjas
(10 posts)Think I saw that episode where a Kirk had to confront his evil self. Kirk had grown indecisive and weaker and had to reincorporate bad Kirk to regain his strength and tame, control his bad side.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)This hated of the Dems started with Reagan and his "L" word crap. And it finished with Bernie and his "DNC rigged it" bullshit.
We are a good party and I am proud of it. I am proud of the candidates we've run. Gore, Kerry, and Hillary Clinton would all have been amazing presidents.
We were lucky with Obama, but I never liked his 2004 convention speech (we aren't red or blue, we're purple). No, the 2004 speech I liked was the one by Al Sharpton, where he raised the rafters shouting about how great the Democratic party was!!
trof
(54,256 posts)My once friendly, social neighborhood has split wide apart. There are former friends and associates that I just can't abide now or ever.
My wife has pretty much divorced herself from her siblings and most of their families (Texas).
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Lets keep working on it.
DeeDeeNY
(3,354 posts)I heard on MSNBC that Hispanic voters put Trump over the top in Texas. How is that possible??? I also don't understand people who thought voting for Biden along with a Republican senator would make sense, even though a Republican majority in the Senate would mean Biden can't get anything done.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)paulkienitz
(1,296 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)My hopes weren't as high this past Tuesday. I guess my disillusionment set in years earlier. The 2004 election was a watershed year for me in many ways.
I was so appalled and disillusioned after the 2004 election, I reassessed my entire life. As a result, a few months later I had an awakening, realized that I am gay, and left my long-time marriage. I began a new career - at the bottom - and essentially began my life over again.
Prepare for revelations. When our world is revealed to be fundamentally different than we thought it was, all kinds of personal revelations can manifest.
ancianita
(35,941 posts)Rizen
(707 posts)They are evil and trying to destroy our democracy. We must always be united in fighting them.
burrowowl
(17,632 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The problem is, nobody saw them. Voters couldn't vote and when they did their votes weren't counted. Michigan and PA went to court to avoid conducting the recounts Stein lawfully requested and never performed them. Why would they do that? Because they didn't count all their votes.
alwaysinasnit
(5,059 posts)Roc2020
(1,613 posts)the words and deeds of Donald Trump just for their ideology. Morality be damned. Sickening
Hekate
(90,562 posts)But first you, since you wrote this post. This should lead to the first page of the California section, 11-5-2020.
https://enewspaper.latimes.com/infinity/latimes/default.aspx?pubid=50435180-e58e-48b5-8e0c-236bf740270e&edid=30a5cd13-c5d1-42b1-9709-87a1488dbc9f&pnum=18
The first one is by Erika Smith, one of their Black columnists, and just kind of breaks my heart, as I suspect broke hers: Facing who many of us are in Calif.
The opening: in 2016, there were 4 million Californians who voted for Tump. In 2020, there were 4 million Californians who still voted for Trump, and they are a lot more diverse than you think. The closing: Biden keeps saying This isnt who we are. But maybe, Erika Smith says: it is who we are.
Man, that just made me tear up to write. Tears running down my face. Like you, I am exhausted.
On the same page, by Gustavo Arellano, who as his name suggests is one of their Latino columnists: Latino Trumpers? No surprise there. I havent finished it yet, but it also looks like something we need to read.
Thats all Ive got today. Thanks for your thoughtful post, as always.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)It should have been a rout and in many places it was just the opposite.
Solidarity.
calimary
(81,125 posts)Wish we could safely hug you in person!
Scarlett OHara famously said tomorrow is another day, and so can we!
CTyankee
(63,892 posts)so was the Depression, so was the Vietnam War, so was the Civil War. We survived. We won.
Now we've won again. I think we know what we have to do now, to undo the damage.
I truly believe that the time is exactly right for a Joe Biden. He is a humble man who has faced losses much greater than many of us. With that comes humility and Joe has that. And he has wisdom. Our allies respect him and that is a huge plus.
I'm happy. I'm greatly relieved. I love our new president and first lady and their wonderful family of patriots and decent human beings.
Rejoice!
BBbats
(89 posts)At the age of 67 I'm having a very hard time with this at well.
Friends,family,people who I love & people I play music with supporting & voting for this disgrace.
A black guy tried to punch me in the mouth when I said"I can't understand how you can be black & vote for Trump" Called me a racist.I know Women who support Trump. I can't fathom that either.These women are working upper middle class professionals.Hell,one's a model! She called me a typical kneejerk male liberal who hides behind political correctness.
I've actually had several of these people say Trump is the best president they've had in their lifetime.
How can I grasp that!
Today gave me a little hope.
I work part time in a music store in Philadelpia,PA. In did my heart good to see people united by the Convention Center where the votes are being counted.All ages,races & sexes,All united into demanding all votes be counted.I walked there briefly & was welcomed as a brother.There was a party goin' on! Yeah ,there's some Trump toadies down there looking to start shit but there's way too many of us down there.
Then I come back to my suburb & hear all the damn trumpanzees. They are legion here.They are also the people with the most to lose if Trump wins!
How do I grasp this?
dsc
(52,152 posts)He is at 253 now and we have PA with 20 where he is ahead and will win, NV with 6 where he is ahead and will win, AZ with 11 where he is ahead and will win, and GA with 16 where he is ahead and will win but there will be a recount. That is 306. He will have a higher share than the popular vote than any GOP candidate has had since 1988 except maybe W's reelect. His margin will likely be higher than Obama 2012 and thus be the largest MOV since 1996. If he gets to 52%, his share of the vote will be higher than any Democrat since FDR except for LBJ in 64 and Obama in 08. He would will have a higher share than Reagan in 80.
samnsara
(17,606 posts)..and we stay in touch by phone about once a year. A cpl months ago he called and we caught up about his kids, covid and trump. He recalled that when he lived with us..and for a few years after that..he tried like crazy to find a way he could live here in America. He loved it so much. He ended it with how hes glad he didnt, that America doesnt look so good to him any more. Im sure once the stench of trump is washed off us he may reconsider.
myohmy2
(3,142 posts)...apparently we're not the country you thought we were...welcome to America, 2020...
...hope you feel better, we've got work to do...
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)As excruciatingly difficult as it was to accept what happened in 2016 and to endure the incessant outrage of the last four years, what happened this week is in many ways more dispiriting.
For the last four years we have been energized to resist the evil which had taken over our government, determined to fight for a better future with hope and confidence that our fellow citizens would resoundingly reject the evil we'd all been subjected to.
When such high hopes are shattered by the stark realization that so many of our fellow Americans are in thrall to this evil, a period of mourning and reassessment must follow.
Because we have to understand what is, both within ourselves and without.
Then figure out how to move forward with our lives and with our passion for a better future.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)And, of course, I too recognize that this is a victory. But there is also a traumatic side to it.