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catbyte

(34,341 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:32 PM Nov 2020

If Trump loses but refuses to leave the White House, what will the military do?

BY TARA COPP
NOVEMBER 06, 2020

President Trump’s reaction to the vote count has raised new questions about whether he will cede the White House if he loses the election. But it’s not up to him.

The 20th Amendment states that the power of the presidency, and with it command of the armed forces, will transfer to the president-elect on Jan. 20.

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Deborah Pearlstein, a professor of constitutional law and co-director of the Floersheimer Center for Constitutional Democracy at Cardozo Law School said that if Democratic nominee former Vice President Joe Biden is elected, after noon on Jan. 20, it will be up to him to decide which law enforcement branch, such as the U.S. Marshals or Secret Service, he would direct to get Trump to vacate the White House.

“If Donald Trump is still sitting in the Oval Office it will be up to Joe Biden to decide which is the relevant federal forces he would select to use,” Pearlstein said.

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https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article247017117.html

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If Trump loses but refuses to leave the White House, what will the military do? (Original Post) catbyte Nov 2020 OP
I imagine Secret Service temporary311 Nov 2020 #1
I second! Glamrock Nov 2020 #3
I have been saying all along Ohiogal Nov 2020 #12
You n me both, sister! Glamrock Nov 2020 #15
You wouldn't be the only one Ohiogal Nov 2020 #18
I'm not afraid. Glamrock Nov 2020 #22
Might have to argue with the joint military chiefs of staff. nilram Nov 2020 #10
it is French Revolution time. Like Louis and Marie Antionette!!! trueblue2007 Nov 2020 #28
I imagine we'd all be OK with a single bulldozer making a new doorway ck4829 Nov 2020 #2
I love that mental picture! Ohiogal Nov 2020 #14
They'll obey their Commander in Chief Joe Biden. Mariana Nov 2020 #4
Nothing. They don't have a role. Blue_true Nov 2020 #5
NOTHING- they already said as much..... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #6
US Navy Seals. safeinOhio Nov 2020 #7
cut his cable or take away his tanning bed Skittles Nov 2020 #8
Nothing... he is one corpulent toadstool. You won't need the military. whttevrr Nov 2020 #9
Might have to use a cattle prod. Ohiogal Nov 2020 #19
Hmmm... cattle prod works, too. whttevrr Nov 2020 #24
Call the electric and water utilities and order a cut-off. marybourg Nov 2020 #11
Nothing. sarisataka Nov 2020 #13
You Left Out... ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #17
I found this article from Reader's Digest last night. Niagara Nov 2020 #16
Prise his ass off the toilet. Lars39 Nov 2020 #20
Nothing. All we have to is... ThoughtCriminal Nov 2020 #21
Cut off the cable tv, GopherGal Nov 2020 #27
the "military" does exactly nothing -- and doesn't have to stopdiggin Nov 2020 #23
Call Home Depot! cureautismnow Nov 2020 #25
My mothers knitting club could do it. IrishEyes Nov 2020 #26

Glamrock

(11,787 posts)
3. I second!
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:35 PM
Nov 2020

That’s who it will be. But the US Marshall’s would have such a Hollywood flair in the media....

Ohiogal

(31,919 posts)
12. I have been saying all along
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

I’d love to see two FEMALE Federal Marshals drag his sorry ass out ....

Ohiogal

(31,919 posts)
18. You wouldn't be the only one
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:49 PM
Nov 2020

here on DU with a Gretchen Whitmer fetish .... I just happen to know ... and no I don’t mean myself ....

Glamrock

(11,787 posts)
22. I'm not afraid.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020

I loves a strong/smart woman! My male ego isn’t so fragile as to be threatened by a woman....as long as she can’t out sing my ass!

nilram

(2,886 posts)
10. Might have to argue with the joint military chiefs of staff.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:39 PM
Nov 2020

And I mean the actual generals and admiral themselves, not their reports.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
4. They'll obey their Commander in Chief Joe Biden.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

I doubt he would ask the military to do anything about Trump refusing to leave. It really isn't their responsibility to deal with such things.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. Nothing. They don't have a role.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:37 PM
Nov 2020

Since Biden would be leading the country, federal law enforcement would remove Trump.

getagrip_already

(14,646 posts)
6. NOTHING- they already said as much.....
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:37 PM
Nov 2020

They announced on tuesday that they wouldn't get involved in any domestic activitities. That federal and state law enforcement were perfect capable of handling any crisis that comes up.

As they should.


Why stir shit like this up?

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
9. Nothing... he is one corpulent toadstool. You won't need the military.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

He will be escorted out by his secret service detail.

Done.

Finito Mussolini will be no more.

sarisataka

(18,498 posts)
13. Nothing.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

The job of the military is to follow legal orders of the president. Other agencies are tasked with pest control.

Niagara

(7,565 posts)
16. I found this article from Reader's Digest last night.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:46 PM
Nov 2020
There is a proscribed sequence of events that happens when the incumbent president’s term expires at the dot of noon on January 20. These include:

The nuclear codes, which allow the president to order a nuclear attack, expire. The military aide who carries the “nuclear football” containing the codes leaves the departing president’s side and joins the president being inaugurated.
The U.S. military switches its allegiance from the outgoing president to the incoming president. Any military orders issued by the outgoing president would be refused. Any officers who obeyed such orders could be arrested and tried on charges of mutiny and sedition.
Likewise, the Secret Service moves to protect the new president and abandons the electoral loser, except for a small unit that will protect him and his family for the remainder of their lives, one of the perks presidents get to keep after leaving office.
These actions make it highly unlikely that a president could go rogue and refuse to leave office. Even if he tried, the new president’s acting attorney general could draw up arrest warrants for charges ranging from criminal trespassing to insurrection.




More at link: https://www.rd.com/article/what-happens-if-a-president-wont-leave-office/

GopherGal

(2,007 posts)
27. Cut off the cable tv,
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:04 PM
Nov 2020

and jam the wireless signal so he can't tweet (or summon UberEats)

Then lay the breadcrumb trail of Whoppers.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
23. the "military" does exactly nothing -- and doesn't have to
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020

as the article points out -- other parts of the federal government will be involved (if necessary)

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
26. My mothers knitting club could do it.
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 06:03 PM
Nov 2020

We don't need the special forces military or secret service. This is one elderly, obese, crazy man. You would just need a few people to escort him out. Pack up whatever he brought with him to the White House and put it on the curb. If he doesn't arrange for a moving van then the garbage company will take it.

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