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Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:39 AM

Ultimate in gaslighting, oddest of ways. Pretend that there is still question about this election.

This is Biden's motorcade. It is a Presidential motorcade. He is being briefed at the level of President. Yesterday evening they beefed up his security at the level of a President. They cleared the airspace around his house as they do with the President.

Every person that knows anything knows Biden has won GA, AZ, NV and Penn.

Everyone knows Biden is the President elect.

What a charade and why? To appease trump and his supporters because their egos can't handle realty which is the hell we have been living for these last four years. And this is just more of it. Being told be patient, when there is obviously not a single reason, but to coddle Trump.

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Reply Ultimate in gaslighting, oddest of ways. Pretend that there is still question about this election. (Original post)
LizBeth Nov 2020 OP
Chin music Nov 2020 #1
LizBeth Nov 2020 #2
TigressDem Nov 2020 #3
LizBeth Nov 2020 #4
TigressDem Nov 2020 #9
LizBeth Nov 2020 #11
Cracklin Charlie Nov 2020 #5
LizBeth Nov 2020 #6
Cracklin Charlie Nov 2020 #7
LizBeth Nov 2020 #8
TigressDem Nov 2020 #10
LizBeth Nov 2020 #12
TigressDem Nov 2020 #13
LizBeth Nov 2020 #14
TigressDem Nov 2020 #15
LizBeth Nov 2020 #16
TigressDem Nov 2020 #17

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Response to Chin music (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:44 AM

2. Right. Trust me, you are not seeing what you are seeing. Really, don't believe those eyes.

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Response to LizBeth (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 01:45 AM

3. Because Dump followers are sore losers who carry AK 15s to places where people are counting votes.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:00 AM

4. EVERY VOTE will be counted even if the state is called. So, we do not call the elections because

they threaten, are bullies? That is the answer for you?

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:41 AM

9. The VOTES MUST be counted YES. But the lives of the vote counters matter to me.

We are dealing not just with bullies, but completely unstable people with guns looking for an excuse to use them to start a civil war. BOMB THREATS and people with AK15's in a Hummer heading to stop the vote count isn't a joke.

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/11/06/police-fashion-district-philadelphia-evacuated-after-receiving-bomb-threats/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/philadelphia-police-take-man-into-custody-in-connection-with-plot-to-attack-vote-counting-center-reports



The REICH Wing has never given upon getting back to slavery or some equivalent in the US where the rich rule and the rest of us have no power. Tensions have been ramping up for awhile. I live in Minneapolis and the Boogaloo Bois helped blow up my 3rd Precinct and blamed it all on BLM. I am talking de-escalation tactics and strategies vs of course we won, when can we rub their faces in it.


https://www.startribune.com/charges-boogaloo-bois-fired-on-mpls-precinct-shouted-justice-for-floyd/572843802/?refresh=true




YOU KNOW HOW MUCH WE NEED AND WANT TO RUB THEIR FACES IN OUR WIN, because it's been such a shit show.

BUT I want ALL the votes counted and the vote counters alive to tell their children.

It is nerve wracking to wait, but DEMS can be patient if it saves lives. Biden cares whether Americans live or die.

Trump let 1/4 million people die in order to up his chances of winning the election. He's sending attackers out to kill people with guns. This isn't a bar room brawl. This is openly sanctioned murder - he's calling "hits" like he's Al Capone or something.


STEVE BANNON suggested BEHEADING FAUCI

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/06/nyregion/bannon-lawyer-beheading.html?action=click&algo=bandit-all-surfaces&block=lone_trending_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=596806132&impression_id=efdf4e20-210e-11eb-8a20-f357aa2b3698&index=0&pgtype=Articleģion=footer&req_id=464937593&surface=most-popular

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:52 PM

11. Or not calling it Thursday night when the government knew Biden was president and started

acting and implementing actions like he was when they could have well called Nv, left people fanning the flames in hope instead of putting a lid on the jar creating much more angst than needed.

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Response to LizBeth (Original post)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:03 AM

5. I don't think Trumps ego is the reason for the delay.

I do think those election commission officials and all poll workers still on the job have the right to a safe workplace.

Iím not sure they would be safe if their work continued after an announcement of Biden as president-elect. Best to let them finish up, as much as possible, before announcing.

Might keep assface from doing anything too stupid, too.

Just my opinion.

Edit to add: weíve lost enough good people this year.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:07 AM

6. Wow, that we are to the point of being intimidated we don't call an election

for fear of harm. If that isn't a commentary on us all. That our country is so out of control, to keep workers safe, the government make's Biden the president in all ways while all of us pretend otherwise.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:19 AM

7. Biden won't be president until January, if elected.

He has no authority to do anything until then.

Have you seen the videos of people showing out at counting centers in Arizona? No one should have to be subjected to that while working at any job, much less such an important one. Which means guards must be hired, and trained. Many precautions have surely been taken already to protect these workers. And thatís on top of all the procedures that have been put in place because of COVID. No one will volunteer to do this in the future, if their safety canít be assured.

Itís the right thing to do, no matter where the threat comes from.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 02:21 AM

8. Oh, I don't know. Have you heard of say, cops, whose very job is to protect those people

and to keep the streets safe? If they are threatening, arrest their fuckin ass like they do the peaceful protesters, ya think? The very least our taxes dollars can provide.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:20 PM

10. Giving him the power he needs behind the scenes to keep the US from blowing up.

REMEMBER at this moment Trump still has the codes to launch a nuclear war and he's dismissed some key people in that area.

The process of counting the votes calmly is giving everyone time to get things in place for a peaceful transfer of power which is the actual desired result.

I know it is frustrating, but there are so many ways this can go sideways.

Joe is probably getting a ton of information that he has to wade through to make decisions that will prevent some insane push back from the crazy folks who think JOE is the antiChrist because his electoral ID 30330 is the result of dividing 2020 by 666.

I HATE paying attention to any of those conspiracy folks, but when they are armed and dangerous, letting them sneak up on me is just stupid.

Getting someone into a locked ward or taking their hands off nuclear weapons can be a very dangerous proposition.

Remember. As the current pResident in the White House, DUMP still has access to more power than any single person should who does not have all his marbles.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 12:55 PM

12. Calling it will have nothing to do with that one way or another, Trump isn't leaving

until Jan and if we are already to that point, the people in charge have better be paying attention, do their job in ensuring no such thing happens even if it is shooting the man. Ripping a bandaide off is often more productively effective then inching it off allowing the pain to continue and fester.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:29 PM

13. Rember PRE-GW? When we had what they called Political Detante? The subtle ways of alliances?

Biden has a chance to put the calm face on it. WE KNOW HE WON. Everyone knows now.

BUT behind the scenes building coalitions with EVERYONE who wants Trump and their ilk out is more effective. WE NEED A STEALTHY MOVEMENT. Let them wear themselves out. WORK SMARTER, not harder.

We USED to be able to work with other world leaders - now it's hard to even work with each other within our party.

It raised my spirits today to see a few people holding up their BIDEN/HARRIS yard signs facing a busy road and people driving by and honking in happy relief.

But waving a red flag at someone so full of BS he might as well be a bull, isn't warranted. Standing firm and prepared for anything is.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:46 PM

14. They called it this morning and what happened? The world celebrated. We breathe. We laugh, we sing,

dance in joy and relief. The world leaders said welcome back, lets get to work. There is a reason to call it, and all day is exactly it. Trump doesn't matter anymore. What he says does not matter any more.

The pressure cooker was building. The pressure has been released and we can move on. That RW hollering lost its steam.

And that is what people were saying last night and why it was important to call it. It mattered and losing one more tradition because of the nastiness on the other side serves none of us.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 7, 2020, 11:55 PM

15. I know and I am very happy about it.

It's just the backlash I fear and I should be more fearless, but I'd really like the country to come together instead of find another way to blow apart at the seams.

I remember when Obama made his first speech. Someone who spoke in complete, clear sentences and had real points to make without dragging up muck across the carpet. It was such a relief after GW.

NOW I feel so glad to have someone who is calm, strongly determined to unite the country, but it isn't something one person can do. We need as many allies as we can get and we need to tie up all the loose ends with Trump and his army of thugs.

We have won our biggest battle so far, but we aren't fully out of this election yet. Stay vigilant. Watch each other's backs. Trump is a sneaky SOB and the people with him have ties back to the worst in this country and aren't afraid to get people to go out and do dirty deeds.

I hope to hell I am wrong and he is just a nasty man who is going to run home and pout and make a new show out of it, so he can really be fully in charge of something.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 12:22 AM

16. All of what you say is a given. Four years we have seen the vile, crude, vulgar and not just from

Trump but his supports. The violence, threats and intimidations.

Biden says they are not our enemy. When someone works to take my healthcare and leave me without any because I cannot afford anything more without ACA at my old age, what are they BUT my enemy?

I wrote this last night about Democrats always being the one accommodating the rw anger. I am damn tired of Democrats being the ones to coddle the right while they hold loaded guns to our heads.

When someone tells you who they are, believe them, that is the least we can do. Yawl want to unite, go for it. But, I know better. I lived around these people for two and half decade and they are more angry than even. It has been building since bushco. We can play nice all we want, they do not like us, and good with us being dead.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 12:34 AM

17. There are those who are really actively stirring up the mess. They need to be held accountable.

But there are also those who were plain out lied to and were dumb enough to drink the koolaid.

I am not talking about "uniting" as in "kumbaya ya'll are forgiven anything and everything" I am talking strategic alliances to get the job completely done.

To get all the key players brought to justice we need evidence. To get evidence we have to be diligently gathering the evidence without spooking the guilty parties. I want TrumpCo locked up, but if we just run around yelling about it, they win because they will just shred the truth or find other ways around it if we telegraph our every move.

THOSE who will work with us, ok. Not going to totally trust, but can be professional about it if you will. Get the job done.

I don't "coddle" anyone who holds a gun to my head, but disarming people is more of an art than pure brute force. Not many people are fast enough to outmaneuver a bullet, but some have talked crazy folk into putting it down and lived to tell about it.

I just wanted those counting the votes to live through it so they could get the job done.

That's all.

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