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Do you think Biden will pardon Trump? (Original Post) ClearSky24 Nov 2020 OP
No. N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #1
Highly unlikely relayerbob Nov 2020 #2
No gordianot Nov 2020 #3
No. Why are you posting right-wing UK rags? meadowlander Nov 2020 #4
Because it's hilarious, I can only imagine ... (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #8
The Independent is left-center. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #12
It's owned by a Russian billionaire and the Saudi Royal Family. meadowlander Nov 2020 #37
That doesn't change reality. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #42
The reality that they published an editorial arguing that Trump should be pardoned? meadowlander Nov 2020 #43
NO PTWB Nov 2020 #5
EXACTLY. n/t Mad_Dem_X Nov 2020 #21
+1000000 crickets Nov 2020 #30
Bwaahhahahahahahahahahahahaha!! F. Kafka Nov 2020 #6
Not a chance. highplainsdem Nov 2020 #7
Yea pardon me get the f___ out of our house. nt doc03 Nov 2020 #9
Of course not. That article is a bit silly. TwilightZone Nov 2020 #10
Sooooo ... not The Onion? (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #11
Not a chance in hell. SergeStorms Nov 2020 #13
No reggaehead Nov 2020 #14
Polite version? No Maeve Nov 2020 #15
That's a crapshoot Hstch05 Nov 2020 #16
HELL no! Mad_Dem_X Nov 2020 #17
No. NNadir Nov 2020 #18
He already said he wouldn't. He said he will let DOJ do it's job. marylandblue Nov 2020 #19
HELL NO!!! WyattKansas Nov 2020 #20
Someone hasn't been paying attention stillcool Nov 2020 #22
Hell, no. Sogo Nov 2020 #23
It would make him a one-termer (see Gerald Ford) and also destroy Harris' political career PSPS Nov 2020 #24
Pardon him for what? Trump says he's never done anything wrong. sop Nov 2020 #25
Hell NO!!!! russiamommy Nov 2020 #26
They already asked him and he said no jcgoldie Nov 2020 #27
It would be nice to have a link showing that, just for some peace of mind. Towlie Nov 2020 #48
Fuck no. roamer65 Nov 2020 #28
NO! MineralMan Nov 2020 #29
He won't cherish44 Nov 2020 #31
Stupid question dalton99a Nov 2020 #32
Biden should never pardon him, but even if he did Dagstead Bumwood Nov 2020 #33
It wouldn't stop New York State. C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #34
No, and he has said as much. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #35
No, I think he's said he would not radical noodle Nov 2020 #36
no and honestly the best thing biden can do about drumpf.... Takket Nov 2020 #38
No. Absolutely not. We will never forget Dumps atrocities. cayugafalls Nov 2020 #39
No. But Trump can pardon himself AngryOldDem Nov 2020 #40
Who would even consider that as an option? procon Nov 2020 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author EVDebsforPresident Nov 2020 #44
Absolutely NO! peggysue2 Nov 2020 #45
Pardon him for what? Has he been convicted of anything? struggle4progress Nov 2020 #46
I think Trump will pardon Trump. tritsofme Nov 2020 #47
No. For what specifically would he be pardoned? Trump obstructed every legitimate investigation Raven123 Nov 2020 #49
Hell NO!!!! grobertj Nov 2020 #50
Ain't Gonna Happen. DinahMoeHum Nov 2020 #51
Two words jmowreader Nov 2020 #52

meadowlander

(4,387 posts)
37. It's owned by a Russian billionaire and the Saudi Royal Family.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:55 PM
Nov 2020

They are "liberal" as in "free marketeer, neo-liberal".

Surprise, surprise, they think Trump should be pardoned before any investigations have actually happened.

TwilightZone

(25,426 posts)
42. That doesn't change reality.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:58 PM
Nov 2020

Their reporting is left-center as documented.

Carli Pierson is an opinion writer and a poor one at that. She does not represent the entire organization. She's basically their version of Hugh Hewitt at CNN. Would you say that CNN is right-wing solely because they employ Hugh Hewitt?

Nope.

meadowlander

(4,387 posts)
43. The reality that they published an editorial arguing that Trump should be pardoned?
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

We're going to have to agree to disagree.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
5. NO
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:46 PM
Nov 2020

If we normalize Trump’s criminality we are doomed to repeat it.

If it is proven that Trump committed crimes he must be held accountable. NO ONE is above the law.

SergeStorms

(19,148 posts)
13. Not a chance in hell.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:48 PM
Nov 2020

I suggest Donald pray to "the god he loves so much" for forgiveness. I doubt he'd get much compassion there either.

Hstch05

(219 posts)
16. That's a crapshoot
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:49 PM
Nov 2020

Joe's nature is to bring people together and begin the healing. His first impulse would be to pardon and move on.
But he can't. He can't normalize or legitimize the last 4 years. For the greater good of the country, he's got to not get involved in pardoning Trump.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
19. He already said he wouldn't. He said he will let DOJ do it's job.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:49 PM
Nov 2020

I hope though he appoints a sunshine commission. We need this process to play out in public. We can't have another two year investigation where we argue about evidence we can't see.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
20. HELL NO!!!
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:49 PM
Nov 2020

The American People deserve to have all the evidence published exposing The tRUMP & Republican, Inc. Cabal.

This shit is never going to end with all the Republican frauds until they have their names permanently stained.

jcgoldie

(11,610 posts)
27. They already asked him and he said no
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:51 PM
Nov 2020

He would leave any prosecution up to the justice department and let the evidence decide how they proceed.

GoCubsGo

(32,073 posts)
35. No, and he has said as much.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:53 PM
Nov 2020

The Independent is deluded if they thing pardoning that shitbag is "for the good of us all." Perhaps we should rip THEIR kids away from them, and lock them in cages with nothing but a mylar blanket, and then ask them how they feel about it. And, then will look the other way when Putin puts a bounty on THEIR heads. What Trump has done to the people of this country, and to people seeking asylum here, is unforgivable and unpardonable. Fuck them.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
36. No, I think he's said he would not
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:54 PM
Nov 2020

I sure hope not. They will continue to be dangerous until they're held accountable.

Takket

(21,526 posts)
38. no and honestly the best thing biden can do about drumpf....
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:56 PM
Nov 2020

is stay the hell out of the way of prosecutors and the courts. we've had 4 years of drumpf and then drumpf+barr undermining the rule of law and the justice system. stay out of it, let them do their jobs, and restore the barriers between the branches that are vital to our democracy.

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
39. No. Absolutely not. We will never forget Dumps atrocities.
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:57 PM
Nov 2020

There will be protests in the streets if this subject is even broached by a Biden Administration.

procon

(15,805 posts)
41. Who would even consider that as an option?
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 05:58 PM
Nov 2020

Trump spent years bragging that he was the law and order president, so it's time to put his money where his mouth is. No pardons, no forgiveness or he (or someone with a brain which would be even worse) will rise up and do it all again.

Pull on your Big Boy pants, Trump, and for once in your miserable life, take some responsibility for your actions and face the consequences for what you did to this nation.

Response to ClearSky24 (Original post)

peggysue2

(10,819 posts)
45. Absolutely NO!
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

Biden has already said he would not stand in the way of what an independent Justice Department might do.

Trump will be prosecuted. Perhaps not at the Federal level if he resigns and has Pence pardon his ass. But certainly at the state level where pardons are useless.

He and his enablers must be held accountable for the damage they've done. Otherwise, we'll go through this again and again. Actions have consequences, as do elections.

Trump is toast.

struggle4progress

(118,214 posts)
46. Pardon him for what? Has he been convicted of anything?
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

His supporters have been telling us he's a good and godly man, atheir chosen bastion of righteousness in the fetid swamps of DC

Why would anyone think he needs a pardon?

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
52. Two words
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 06:17 PM
Nov 2020

Hunter. Biden.

Trump and his cabal attempted to destroy Joe Biden by dragging Hunter through the mud. They even manufactured a laptop full of absolute bullshit. There is absolutely no way President Biden is going to pardon Donald F. Trump*.

Trump also isn't going to resign before the inaugural. The bastard will be screaming that the election isn't over because "all the legally cast votes haven't been counted" on December 15. (The Electoral College meets on December 14 and makes President Biden's win official.) There's a slight chance Trump will show up at the ceremony screaming about how he hasn't conceded so he's still president and they have to swear him, not Biden, into office.

And forget the "he's going to pardon himself" thing. He can try. He probably will try. But if he does, the courts will decide that (1) you can't be pardoned for crimes you haven't even been investigated for yet and (2) you can't be your own judge, and nullify his self-pardon.

The only real question is, which federal penitentiary is best suited to hold a corrupt ex-president?

* F is for Fucking. Thank you, Vicente Fox!

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