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SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 08:39 PM Nov 2020

Give Up Your US Citizenship?

We hear lots of people threaten to leave the US forever, after every POTUS election.
These 'all or nothing' thinkers, on both sides, often make that threat to leave.

I googled how to give up citizenship and up pops 1.8 Million results.
The top link sent me to the US State Dept forms archive.

There is a form (of course) to renounce your US citzenship.
It looks pretty simple to do. Why am I laughing so hard?

https://eforms.state.gov/Forms/ds4080.pdf

After Note: I have no idea what the actual steps or processes are to renounce US citizenship, but I suspect it's quite involved and not something that can be done with this single form, while having a bad day as a Trumpie might since Biden won the election. So please don't blame me for any mass emigrations.

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captain queeg

(10,157 posts)
4. You don't have to give up your citizenship to move to another country
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 08:44 PM
Nov 2020

I don't think many do that...they just choose to live elsewhere.

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
5. Make sure they understand...if still a citizen,
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 08:54 PM
Nov 2020

still must file U.S. taxes.

And be sure to research how complex the tax regulations are in that situation. I would bet money that our own DFW would attest to this, if he happens to see this thread.

Silent3

(15,190 posts)
7. If Trump won again, I'd have been considering another country, but...
Sat Nov 7, 2020, 08:55 PM
Nov 2020

...it's very hard to find another country that I'd consider better to live in, who would also be willing to take me and my wife as new citizens. That's such a tough obstacle, I'd probably never manage to do it.

I have a valuable skill other countries would want (I'm a software engineer), but I'm 58 y/o and they wouldn't get many years of taxes and added productivity out of me. My wife, who is older than I, is already retired. Chance are the best we could hope for is residency, not citizenship. No country with good social support systems wants to take people from other countries who haven't been, or won't be, paying taxes into their systems for many years.

At least now we have a fighting chance to restore decency and democracy to this country. I was very worried if Trump won again it would be the last real election with a real choice America might have for a long time.

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