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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:57 PM

Thoughts on DC and Puerto Rico statehood?

The House has already passed a bill for DC statehood and the referendum in Puerto Rico just passed. Iím wondering how long it would take for both of them to write and pass a state constitution. The potential for four more Democratic senators is very appealing.

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Reply Thoughts on DC and Puerto Rico statehood? (Original post)
dlk Nov 2020 OP
bottomofthehill Nov 2020 #1
dlk Nov 2020 #4
In It to Win It Nov 2020 #11
onetexan Nov 2020 #13
Statistical Nov 2020 #2
dlk Nov 2020 #6
dubyadiprecession Nov 2020 #3
Statistical Nov 2020 #5
dlk Nov 2020 #8
Voltaire2 Nov 2020 #7
Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #9
dlk Nov 2020 #19
Codeine Nov 2020 #10
2naSalit Nov 2020 #12
dlk Nov 2020 #20
mjvpi Nov 2020 #14
Shermann Nov 2020 #15
dlk Nov 2020 #21
pinkstarburst Nov 2020 #16
dlk Nov 2020 #23
panader0 Nov 2020 #17
pinkstarburst Nov 2020 #18
tritsofme Nov 2020 #22
dlk Nov 2020 #25
dlk Nov 2020 #24

Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:57 PM

1. No senate, no statehood

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:00 PM

4. Yes, currently that's the case

Itís something worth planning for, though.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:09 PM

11. Maybe the current Republican governor can make an appeal to her fellow GOPers

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:11 PM

13. yup we gotta fight like heck to get Ossoff & Warnock elected to get statehoods

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:58 PM

2. Without the Senate is it moot.

The process historically speaking has taken anywhere from 3 to 16 months although it probably would take a bit longer in the 21st century. Still it is deader than a doornail without a Blue Senate. There is a zero percent chance that any Republican will vote in favor of it. In fact there won't even be a vote. Mitch will ensure there is zero chance that there is even a vote or debate on it in the Senate.

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Response to Statistical (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:02 PM

6. If Mitch stays majority leader...

I think itís definitely worth planning ahead for.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:59 PM

3. I'm for it, but it is up to the people in Puerto Rico.

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Response to dubyadiprecession (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:00 PM

5. The people in PR just voted in favor of statehood (yet again).

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Response to Statistical (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:05 PM

8. In the long run, I think it worth planning for

Republicans shouldnít be the only ones playing the long game.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:04 PM

7. Yes.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:06 PM

9. We need the Senate so no point in worrying about it unless we get the Senate.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:09 PM

19. Something to plan for long term

Democrats would be well-served to up their long game.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:08 PM

10. I wouldn't be so sure

 

that PR would yield two Democratic senators but I still believe that statehood is the right thing.

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:09 PM

12. Long overdue...

If we don;t have the Senate this election cycle, we can hit them again in two years.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:09 PM

20. Yes, the work continues...

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:29 PM

14. Yes!

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:39 PM

15. We really don't want to mess up the flag

50 states is a nice, even number. So we need to free up two states.

Florida has to go. I say we cut a canal across the Florida panhandle and let the rising ocean waters reclaim the state back to nature. Sorry to any DUers who live there.

Do we really need a North Dakota and a South Dakota? We can combine those into one state: "Dakota".

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Response to Shermann (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:10 PM

21. Like your sense of humor

We could hold a national design contest.

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Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:14 PM

23. I think there a difference between "defund the police", a political grenade & statehood discussions

Granted, Republicans will continue to twist Democratic narratives. We just have to untwist them, for instance: "unpacking the courts."

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Response to dlk (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:49 PM

17. Puerto Rico has 3,194,000 plus people. D.C. has 684,500 plus.

Wyoming has 579,000. P.R. and D.C. have more people than Cheney's state, but zero representation
in Congress, even though they are American citizens.

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Response to pinkstarburst (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:13 PM

22. I'm concerned about the lack of consensus for statehood within Puerto Rico.

While a clear majority just supported statehood in a referendum, there were still 48% opposed.

Our union is a perpetual one, there would be no getting out for them if the political winds changed, and it would forever foreclose the possibility of self-determination.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #22)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:16 PM

25. No doubt, America is polarized

We can't let that stop us from moving forward.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:15 PM

24. The citizens of DC & Puerto Rico deserve representation

Their voices matter, too.

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