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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:57 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

Thoughts on DC and Puerto Rico statehood?

The House has already passed a bill for DC statehood and the referendum in Puerto Rico just passed. I’m wondering how long it would take for both of them to write and pass a state constitution. The potential for four more Democratic senators is very appealing.

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Thoughts on DC and Puerto Rico statehood? (Original post)	dlk	Nov 2020	OP
No senate, no statehood	bottomofthehill	Nov 2020	#1
Yes, currently that's the case	dlk	Nov 2020	#4
Maybe the current Republican governor can make an appeal to her fellow GOPers	In It to Win It	Nov 2020	#11
yup we gotta fight like heck to get Ossoff & Warnock elected to get statehoods	onetexan	Nov 2020	#13
Without the Senate is it moot.	Statistical	Nov 2020	#2
If Mitch stays majority leader...	dlk	Nov 2020	#6
I'm for it, but it is up to the people in Puerto Rico.	dubyadiprecession	Nov 2020	#3
The people in PR just voted in favor of statehood (yet again).	Statistical	Nov 2020	#5
In the long run, I think it worth planning for	dlk	Nov 2020	#8
Yes.	Voltaire2	Nov 2020	#7
We need the Senate so no point in worrying about it unless we get the Senate.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#9
Something to plan for long term	dlk	Nov 2020	#19
I wouldn't be so sure	Codeine	Nov 2020	#10
Long overdue...	2naSalit	Nov 2020	#12
Yes, the work continues...	dlk	Nov 2020	#20
Yes!	mjvpi	Nov 2020	#14
We really don't want to mess up the flag	Shermann	Nov 2020	#15
Like your sense of humor	dlk	Nov 2020	#21
This message was self-deleted by its author	pinkstarburst	Nov 2020	#16
I think there a difference between "defund the police", a political grenade & statehood discussions	dlk	Nov 2020	#23
Puerto Rico has 3,194,000 plus people. D.C. has 684,500 plus.	panader0	Nov 2020	#17
This message was self-deleted by its author	pinkstarburst	Nov 2020	#18
I'm concerned about the lack of consensus for statehood within Puerto Rico.	tritsofme	Nov 2020	#22
No doubt, America is polarized	dlk	Nov 2020	#25
The citizens of DC & Puerto Rico deserve representation	dlk	Nov 2020	#24

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:57 PM

bottomofthehill (7,476 posts)

1. No senate, no statehood

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:00 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

4. Yes, currently that's the case

It’s something worth planning for, though.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:09 PM

In It to Win It (6,439 posts)

11. Maybe the current Republican governor can make an appeal to her fellow GOPers

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:11 PM

onetexan (11,904 posts)

13. yup we gotta fight like heck to get Ossoff & Warnock elected to get statehoods

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:58 PM

Statistical (19,264 posts)

2. Without the Senate is it moot.

The process historically speaking has taken anywhere from 3 to 16 months although it probably would take a bit longer in the 21st century. Still it is deader than a doornail without a Blue Senate. There is a zero percent chance that any Republican will vote in favor of it. In fact there won't even be a vote. Mitch will ensure there is zero chance that there is even a vote or debate on it in the Senate.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:02 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

6. If Mitch stays majority leader...

I think it’s definitely worth planning ahead for.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 02:59 PM

dubyadiprecession (5,043 posts)

3. I'm for it, but it is up to the people in Puerto Rico.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:00 PM

Statistical (19,264 posts)

5. The people in PR just voted in favor of statehood (yet again).

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:05 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

8. In the long run, I think it worth planning for

Republicans shouldn’t be the only ones playing the long game.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:04 PM

Voltaire2 (10,807 posts)

7. Yes.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:06 PM

Demsrule86 (66,388 posts)

9. We need the Senate so no point in worrying about it unless we get the Senate.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:09 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

19. Something to plan for long term

Democrats would be well-served to up their long game.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:08 PM

Codeine (25,586 posts)

10. I wouldn't be so sure

that PR would yield two Democratic senators but I still believe that statehood is the right thing.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:09 PM

2naSalit (73,347 posts)

12. Long overdue...

If we don;t have the Senate this election cycle, we can hit them again in two years.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:09 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

20. Yes, the work continues...

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:29 PM

mjvpi (1,323 posts)

14. Yes!

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:39 PM

Shermann (5,854 posts)

15. We really don't want to mess up the flag

50 states is a nice, even number. So we need to free up two states.

Florida has to go. I say we cut a canal across the Florida panhandle and let the rising ocean waters reclaim the state back to nature. Sorry to any DUers who live there.

Do we really need a North Dakota and a South Dakota? We can combine those into one state: "Dakota".

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:10 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

21. Like your sense of humor

We could hold a national design contest.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:14 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

23. I think there a difference between "defund the police", a political grenade & statehood discussions

Granted, Republicans will continue to twist Democratic narratives. We just have to untwist them, for instance: "unpacking the courts."

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 03:49 PM

panader0 (25,780 posts)

17. Puerto Rico has 3,194,000 plus people. D.C. has 684,500 plus.

Wyoming has 579,000. P.R. and D.C. have more people than Cheney's state, but zero representation
in Congress, even though they are American citizens.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:13 PM

tritsofme (15,962 posts)

22. I'm concerned about the lack of consensus for statehood within Puerto Rico.

While a clear majority just supported statehood in a referendum, there were still 48% opposed.

Our union is a perpetual one, there would be no getting out for them if the political winds changed, and it would forever foreclose the possibility of self-determination.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:16 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

25. No doubt, America is polarized

We can't let that stop us from moving forward.

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Sun Nov 8, 2020, 04:15 PM

dlk (10,516 posts)

24. The citizens of DC & Puerto Rico deserve representation

Their voices matter, too.

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