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ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:18 PM Nov 2020

Maybe I'm paranoid, but it ain't over till...

it’s over...and it ain’t over.

Barr has disappeared for days. Where? I suspect conferring with REAL lawyers (Rudy...pffft! An incompetent clown to throw us off) and Supreme Court justices about... I dunno, but about something that has JUST ENOUGH legal cover to sliiiiiide through a tiny crack we didn’t consider.

Kushner is bragging about “nobody can go as low as trump. don’t even try.” And then gives a smile.

I dunno, I feel somethin’ is brewing. Gut feelings kept me from prison or even serious arrest in my younger wilder days...and my gut keeps telling me to look over my shoulder.

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Maybe I'm paranoid, but it ain't over till... (Original Post) ret5hd Nov 2020 OP
As long as there are republicons FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #1
Relax have a beer its over 😁 Tribetime Nov 2020 #2
PANIC!!!!! brooklynite Nov 2020 #3
You're a dick. For a long time. ret5hd Nov 2020 #11
"Maybe I'm paranoid" brooklynite Nov 2020 #14
Paranoia equals panic...thanks doctor pill. ret5hd Nov 2020 #15
PARANOIA (noun): a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution... brooklynite Nov 2020 #22
Delusions of persecution! Ha! ret5hd Nov 2020 #33
One of those pr*cks EndlessWire Nov 2020 #29
+1 Arazi Nov 2020 #16
Still so certain? ret5hd Nov 2020 #39
Actually, yes... brooklynite Nov 2020 #40
Nunes, Ellis, Patel, Haspel, Pompeo... ret5hd Nov 2020 #43
Hmmm...maybe you can chime in here: ret5hd Nov 2020 #45
The problem with that thread BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #46
Can't seem to hide these threads fast enough Dem2 Nov 2020 #48
Working behind the scene for the great escape! 42bambi Nov 2020 #4
Know what you mean. J_William_Ryan Nov 2020 #5
AZ and GA are going blue. Statistical Nov 2020 #7
Agree, and the GA recount won't overturn anything. radius777 Nov 2020 #41
They'll try everything they can. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #6
Barr has Covid BainsBane Nov 2020 #8
I hope that's true. ret5hd Nov 2020 #12
I hope it keeps him out of trouble until we can put him in prison. BComplex Nov 2020 #18
And there's something dreadfully wrong with DUgosh Nov 2020 #21
Agree! Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #36
It's over unless some states made serious errors in vote count. If that happened Hoyt Nov 2020 #9
I'm getting that same feeling liberal_mama Nov 2020 #10
Yeah, cool story. But it's over. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #13
I'm worried about the Electoral College...Faithless Electors TrogL Nov 2020 #17
Another AWESOME reason to get rid of the electoral college as soon as we can BComplex Nov 2020 #19
That has been beat to death here and isn't going to happen Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #37
I'm hearing it's already been proposed for Wisconsin TrogL Nov 2020 #44
The SCOTUS unimously threw out the nonsense of electors being able to buck their original pledges BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #47
Well lets all worry get ulcers MFM008 Nov 2020 #20
Street smarts it's called Miigwech Nov 2020 #23
As Marquis de Lafayette said Willto Nov 2020 #24
I really hope so. ret5hd Nov 2020 #25
I know your feelings about hunches, and looking over your shoulder. Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #26
He also said this BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #49
I think vigilance is good. David__77 Nov 2020 #27
I share your pessimism. nancy1942 Nov 2020 #28
It's not pessimism... ret5hd Nov 2020 #30
It's good to be wary, but we'll be in good shape. LuckyCharms Nov 2020 #31
Thnx. I needed that. ret5hd Nov 2020 #38
It's over when Biden takes the oath of office. misanthrope Nov 2020 #32
did Kushner say that? Recently? Hamlette Nov 2020 #34
Yes. Link below: ret5hd Nov 2020 #35
2020 isn't over yet. I won't rest easy until Biden and Harris have taken their oaths of office. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #42

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
11. You're a dick. For a long time.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:28 PM
Nov 2020

I didn’t say panic. I said I’m watching. And that we all should. They win...I die. They win... my wife dies. They win...you retire to your boudoir, sip a glass of fine wine and —tut tut, the tragedy of it all! I should really get a new pair of slippers.—

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
14. "Maybe I'm paranoid"
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:32 PM
Nov 2020

I'm seeing a lot of these threads based on absolutely nothing but unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
22. PARANOIA (noun): a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution...
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:39 PM
Nov 2020

If people have concerns based on ACTUAL EVIDENCE, that's one thing. leaping to unsupported conclusions about what Trump will do is uncalled for.,

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
40. Actually, yes...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:03 AM
Nov 2020

Bar is going through the motions to make Trump feel good. The "evidence" hasn't been good enough for a dozen or so Court cases; it's not going to result in a DOJ success.

BumRushDaShow

(128,757 posts)
46. The problem with that thread
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:37 AM
Nov 2020

is that PA has a Democratic Governor and the state legislature doesn't have a veto-proof majority, even if you have a couple dozen teabaggers (which is less than 10% of the state House) who are jumping up and down trying to get some media attention.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
48. Can't seem to hide these threads fast enough
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

I thought my anxiety would end once the election was over.

Perhaps it's time to close this tab, it's upsetting me.

J_William_Ryan

(1,751 posts)
5. Know what you mean.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:22 PM
Nov 2020

AZ and GA going blue would help – I think we’d all feel better with ‘extra’ ECVs just in case the Trump Court awards a Biden state to Trump.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
7. AZ and GA are going blue.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:24 PM
Nov 2020

It just is going to take a while probably another 48 hours.

Biden will be sitting on 306 EV. This isn't like 2000 where they can flip a single state. They need at least three separate states and they need to total 37.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
41. Agree, and the GA recount won't overturn anything.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:09 AM
Nov 2020

AZ only allows a recount if vote is within 200 votes or .01, whichever is less. It won't be that close.

Turin_C3PO

(13,952 posts)
6. They'll try everything they can.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:24 PM
Nov 2020

But it won’t work. The courts are not going to overturn the results of a valid election. They might succeed in getting a few ballots tossed here and there but that’s it. Trump is delusional and he lives in a fantasy world.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. It's over unless some states made serious errors in vote count. If that happened
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:27 PM
Nov 2020

it would eventually be uncovered.

Let them try to keep hope alive awhile. It’ll make it easier for them to accept. We did much the same in 2016.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
17. I'm worried about the Electoral College...Faithless Electors
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:33 PM
Nov 2020

If somebody throws enough money/blackmail at an Elector...

They’re called Faithless Electors

https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
19. Another AWESOME reason to get rid of the electoral college as soon as we can
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

gather enough backers for an amendment.

BumRushDaShow

(128,757 posts)
47. The SCOTUS unimously threw out the nonsense of electors being able to buck their original pledges
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:50 AM
Nov 2020
https://www.npr.org/2020/07/06/885168480/supreme-court-rules-state-faithless-elector-laws-constitutional

I.e., the states with laws that basically require electors to vote how they pledged, was upheld.

Did you notice the page at the link was updated to reflect the timing of the SCOTUS ruling?

Note: This page was last updated on July 7, 2020. If you have any questions or comments please contact Ashley Houghton, AHoughton@fairvote.org.

Willto

(292 posts)
24. As Marquis de Lafayette said
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:42 PM
Nov 2020

speaking of the Revolutionary War after the defeat of British General Cornwallis at the battle of Yorktown, "The Play Sir is Over".

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
26. I know your feelings about hunches, and looking over your shoulder.
Sun Nov 8, 2020, 11:50 PM
Nov 2020

I was an inner city street kid in the 70s. Anywhere I went, I was on some gang's turf.
The cops didn't like any of us. I got the occasional pass because my Dad owned a local shot-n-a-beer joint.
Almost royalty... LOL

I'm old now, but still have those instincts, even in a much different environment.

In the end, fear not. Joe's Got This.

nancy1942

(635 posts)
28. I share your pessimism.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:30 AM
Nov 2020

Nothing those vile creatures do would surprise me. Who knows the evil they can do during the next weeks? They're not normal.

ret5hd

(20,489 posts)
30. It's not pessimism...
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:37 AM
Nov 2020

It’s recognition of the fact that I’m not as slimy, underhanded, or evil as trump and whatever group of high end lawyers he may have convinced to work for IOU’s and future profits. It’s recognition that my brain just don’t work that way, so I better keep watching.

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
31. It's good to be wary, but we'll be in good shape.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:48 AM
Nov 2020

Your point is well taken. Look at all of the posts since Trump was installed that say something along the lines of "He will do ANYTHING". He is a caged animal", etc.

Well, those posts have proven to be true...there is no bottom for him, and there is nothing that he will not try to do to save himself.

So you are not paranoid, and your post has a basis in reality.

That being said, remember that every day that passes by, every day that Biden establishes and strengthens his transition and positions himself as a leader...is a day that Trump becomes weaker and weaker, and less likely to be a problem.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
32. It's over when Biden takes the oath of office.
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 12:51 AM
Nov 2020

Until then, the agents of chaos will continue their efforts.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
42. 2020 isn't over yet. I won't rest easy until Biden and Harris have taken their oaths of office.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:20 AM
Nov 2020

I'm still not confident we're not heading for a total dictatorship.

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