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Bayard

(22,035 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:53 PM Nov 2020

Inciting insurrection?

I can't find much about this online. It seems to me, with trump continuing his antics with his post-election rallies, that he is inciting insurrection to the lawfully elected government. It definitely suggests there will be violence.

Does anyone have any facts on the situation, or informed opinions?

I did find these in CHAPTER 115—TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
https://uscode.house.gov

§2383. Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

§2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §1, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

§2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; July 24, 1956, ch. 678, §2, 70 Stat. 623; Pub. L. 87–486, June 19, 1962, 76 Stat. 103; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §330016(1)(N), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

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Inciting insurrection? (Original Post) Bayard Nov 2020 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Nov 2020 #1
Quote from MacBeth I believe... appropriate for post election Trump rally lapfog_1 Nov 2020 #2
Hey! According to that wording, we can imprison Rupert Murdock, Sean Hannity, Rush BComplex Nov 2020 #3
Excellent post!! Duppers Nov 2020 #4
ALL very good points. Duppers Nov 2020 #5
The whole GOP should be tried. nt Duppers Nov 2020 #6

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
2. Quote from MacBeth I believe... appropriate for post election Trump rally
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 01:59 PM
Nov 2020

"Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, / Signifying nothing.”

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
3. Hey! According to that wording, we can imprison Rupert Murdock, Sean Hannity, Rush
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 02:07 PM
Nov 2020

Limbaugh, and Tucker Carlson RIGHT NOW!!! And everyone over at OANN!!!

This really is important!! His supporters have even been flying flags (nazi, confederate) of the enemies of the State. I say lock 'em up!

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
5. ALL very good points.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 03:28 AM
Nov 2020

I think he is indeed trying to incite insurrection. And it's really most troubling that he's trying to incite a military insurrection coup.

But the saddest part, I think, is the Congress seems almost afraid of him because of his base. So, they won't pursue their rightful duty to charge him of this crime.

I'm sure, however, he will leave in January, one way or another.


Dems better make use of their new power to change to the country's laws, most importantly to bring back the Fairness Doctrine in order to counter the lies of 1500 RW a.m. radio stations across the country. Plus Fux Lies, of course.

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