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My Pet Orangutan

(9,238 posts)
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 05:56 PM Nov 2020

PLEASE NOTE: You cannot compare 2020 'exit poll' results with 2016

There is no direct comparison between

White Women 2020 v 2016
Black Men 2020 v 2016
Latinx 2020 v 2016

The consortium took the election day questionnaire results, then tried to adjust for the 100 million early voters with telephone polling (and scattered questionnaire results from some early voting sites ). The election day results were skewed GOP but there was no independent data to unwind the overall bias, let alone individual biases amongst the demographic groups. So while the results are not totally unreliable, they cannot, CANNOT be compared with the exit questionnaire results from 2016 and earlier.

So you cannot say, for example, that Biden scored less well with black male voters, by comparing the 2020 'exits' with the 2016 numbers. This may or may not be true, but you are not comparing like with like.

Be Wary Of Exit Polls This Year
https://fivethirtyeight.com/videos/be-wary-of-exit-polls-this-year-well-and-all-years/

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PLEASE NOTE: You cannot compare 2020 'exit poll' results with 2016 (Original Post) My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 OP
My point is that ALL polling is not only unreliable, but also useless. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #1
Everything is broken without truth and pwb Nov 2020 #2
He could have won by 10 and it would be in the margin of error Tribetime Nov 2020 #6
Exit polling was extremely accurate when everyone voted the same day. . . pat_k Nov 2020 #3
Absolutely! The incredibly high percentage of Still Sensible Nov 2020 #4
Kick My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #5
Kick My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #7
kick and rec kcr Nov 2020 #8

pwb

(11,261 posts)
2. Everything is broken without truth and
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:07 PM
Nov 2020

Trumps have made lying the norm. People will lie about poles for political purposes Right? Joe won by what 4% so that is close within the margins of error.














Tribetime

(4,684 posts)
6. He could have won by 10 and it would be in the margin of error
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 08:50 PM
Nov 2020

Seems every poll was off in favor of Trump 46 of 50 states outside moe...4. Within 1 % Georgia Colorado D.C. and I think Oregon

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
3. Exit polling was extremely accurate when everyone voted the same day. . .
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:14 PM
Nov 2020

And back then, it was a powerful tool to detect vote "subtraction." One that is used by election monitors around the world. 2001 and 2004 exit polls in many states was spot on with reality -- pre-suppression reality. As investigations like Conyer's of Ohio in 2004 showed.

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
4. Absolutely! The incredibly high percentage of
Mon Nov 9, 2020, 06:42 PM
Nov 2020

"other than in-person, polling place voting" renders exit polling rather worthless. It doesn't matter if pollsters tried to "fix" the problem with other supplemental means.

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