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Nevilledog

(51,069 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:13 PM Nov 2020

Trump's attempt to overturn the election result is ramping up. Here's what comes next.



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Andrew Prokop
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Trump is trying to overturn the election results. I doubt he’ll be successful. But I don’t know it for sure.

In the coming weeks, I’ll be watching two things:

1. Certifications
2. GOP state legislators and electors

Trump’s attempt to overturn the election result is ramping up. Here’s what comes next.
Watch the state certifications, the state legislatures, and the courts.
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Trump is trying to overturn the election results. I doubt he’ll be successful. But I don’t know it for sure.

In the coming weeks, I’ll be watching two things:

1. Certifications
2. GOP state legislators and electors

Trump’s attempt to overturn the election result is ramping up. Here’s what comes next.
Watch the state certifications, the state legislatures, and the courts.
https://www.vox.com/2020/11/11/21559082/trump-dispute-election-fraud-electors

There are two things that are set to happen with the election results in the coming weeks that ordinarily would be formalities, but in a disputed election are crucial.

First is the states' certifications of their results. Second is the selection of electors.
Right now, both processes are clearly on track to make Biden the next president.

Trump's only hope is to upset the apple cart on one or both. Blocking or delaying certifications somehow, or getting partisan GOP state legislators in states Biden won to appoint Trump electors.

Re: certifications, Trump will get little help from officials in the key states— they're mostly Democrats or bipartisan boards, except for GA Sec of State Brad Raffensperger.

Raffensperger is being pressured from the right, but he's pushed back so far

Georgia's Republican secretary of state shoots down Republican senators' call for his resignation
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger on Monday rebuked calls from Republican US Sens. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue to resign as both of their Senate races appear to be headed for a January…
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/09/politics/georgia-2020-election-kelly-loeffler-david-perdue-brad-raffensperger/index.html

With dim prospects for getting state officials to block certifications, Trump has been trying to get judges to do that, by filing lawsuits.

These lawsuits seem weak so far. But watch if judges start to take any of them seriously.

Trump campaign says new lawsuit seeks to stop certification of Michigan election results
The lawsuit is the latest from the Trump campaign, both in Michigan and across the country. These legal efforts have been largely unsuccessful.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/10/trump-lawsuit-stop-certification-election-results/6240698002/

If certifications proceed as planned, the next step in the process is the selection of electors. Again, should be a formality. Biden should get electors in the states Biden won.

But the risk, many have long argued, is that GOP state legislators, will try to make a move here

PA's state senate majority leader, Jake Corman (R), has said for months that the state legislature plays no role in appointing electors, according to PA law.

But now, facing "pressure" to overturn the results, he's hedging that statement, saying that's in "normal circumstances"
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A Wisconsin GOP state legislator has already endorsed this idea.

"You either have to toss this election out and have a whole new election, or we have our delegates to the Electoral College vote for the person they think legitimately should have won"

wisn.com/article/gop-la…
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GOP lawmaker suggests Wisconsin electors choose presidential winner
State Rep. Joe Sanfelippo, of New Berlin, said he doesn't trust the election process or the outcome of results.
https://www.wisn.com/article/gop-lawmaker-suggests-wisconsin-electors-choose-presidential-winner/34622122

Still, there does not currently appear to be a solid effort on the part of any GOP legislature to replace Biden electors with Trump electors.

But we'll have to see if that changes in the weeks ahead as the pressure rises.

Even if legislatures do decide to make a play, there's a problem — WI, PA, & MI have Dem governors who will veto any attempt to change state laws.

But there's also a potential solution: the Gorsuch/Kav theory that state legislatures, not governors, call the shots in elections
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To be clear, this is a far-fetched scenario. It's very unlikely to actually happen. Things look to be on track for Biden.

But again, the two things to watch in the coming weeks are: whether states stay on track for certifications, and how GOP legislators talk about electors
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Trump's attempt to overturn the election result is ramping up. Here's what comes next. (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
And if they try to break the law by choosing electors Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2020 #1
There will be obstruction and law suits at every step. Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #2
Can we please stop with the electors being thrown out story..please Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #3

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,802 posts)
1. And if they try to break the law by choosing electors
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:17 PM
Nov 2020

Our lawyers take them to court and we win, because it's an obvious violation of the Constitution.

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