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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf that were my five year old in Amarillo Texas
somebody would be paying big time starting with the Killa Con.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kindergartner-reportedly-dies-covid-19-texas-n1246803
Parents Lastassija White and Quincy Drone told the NBC affiliate that their five-year-old daughter Tagan died suddenly after a short battle with the virus.
"She loved to learn," White said, adding that her late daughter would so fastidious about wearing a mask that she would even remind her mom if she forgot hers.
White said Tagan became very sleepy last week, and then began to vomit, so she brought her to the emergency department where she tested positive for the coronavirus.
Tagan had no obvious symptoms like fever or cough. White told KAMR that doctors said her daughter "would be fine" because it "doesn't affect kids."
Tagan continued to weaken and her parents said they called the ambulance after it appeared that she had stopped breathing. She died shortly after.
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Watched them on CNN - am still in tears - they buried her on Saturday
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)her daughter would be fine because it doesn't affect kids. Trump is the one who said that. Doctors all know better and have for some time now.
malaise
(267,823 posts)More than a few African American parents have spoken out publicly about the lack of care meted out to them and their children by some white doctors.
There are actual studies about the disparities in medical care based on race.
I believe the parents. Please watch the interview about what was done and what wasn't done. That child was dead in less than 24 hours. They were told to treat it like the flu.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I don't know the legal standard in Texas, but where I work in medical malpractice cases, the rule we drill into our medical practitioner clients is "Chart it or it didn't happen." There are doctors as irresponsible as Donald Trump practicing medicine out there.
malaise
(267,823 posts)Everywhere
Niagara
(7,407 posts)My hometown family doctor donated to trump regularly in 2020. I found the information on the FEC website.
malaise
(267,823 posts)introduce mandatory classes related to Caribbean history, civics, sociology and political institutions for medical and science and technology students. More than a few are among the most ignorant about their own societies and some of them are selfish beyond belief. We used to laugh when noting that the only faculty where the car dealers had displays of the latest vehicles was the medical faculty.
That said, let me be clear that (as in other fields) there are some very caring, decent and progressive doctors and medical students and there are right wingers in other fields as well.
womanofthehills
(8,584 posts)Some just don't keep up with the latest studies or what is happening in the world.
lonely bird
(1,642 posts)So I should be careful.
I am 64, overweight although I have lost 50 pounds, have high blood pressure, type 2 diabetes and take blood thinners. I would think that the flu vaccine might be a good idea. I don't need anti-vaxxer crap.
KT2000
(20,544 posts)is not anti vaxxer crap. It is an additive-preservative added to the vaccine that some are sensitive to - it is ethylmercury. Ethylmercury leaves the body faster than methylmercury (found in certain fish) but it is still mercury and capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier. This may be why your dr suggested caution for you:
Exposure to mercury even small amounts may cause serious health problems, and is a threat to the development of the child in utero and early in life. Mercury may have toxic effects on the nervous, digestive and immune systems, and on lungs, kidneys, skin and eyes.Mar 31, 2017
JCMach1
(27,544 posts)also includes the fact that people sensitive to thimerosal should get vaccines without it and ethylmercury is able to cross the blood-brain barrier.
JCMach1
(27,544 posts)KT2000
(20,544 posts)of policy and get into the science.
JCMach1
(27,544 posts)Added to IGNORE
KT2000
(20,544 posts)the whole point of my post was to note that the doctor may have had good reason to warn the patient considering her many health conditions. Ethylmercury is ethylmercury.
I had my flu shot this year as usual.
malaise
(267,823 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)Here's what the CDC says:
Your doctor ought to know that. Make sure he gets the single dose version for you.
Plus, thimersol is simply not O!M!G! WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE FROM IT that people seem to think. Without thimersol, there would be almost no vaccines available.
58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)It is scary what docs do and say.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)But I don't know that I've ever heard anyone say anything this irresonsible such as this alleged comment about Covid and kids. I'm not saying it didn't happen though.
58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)But kids crash quickly and hard. So any kind of systemic illness should have been monitored carefully with full blood/abg, and lung x-rays/cscan. I don't know how much time elapsed between her release and death, but 2 days out would say that she should have been kept in the hospital IMO.
On edit-apparently it was @ 15 hours. Yeah, they screwed up.
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)African Americans are marginalized by the medical profession.
EndlessWire
(6,377 posts)but please don't make everything an issue of race.
I don't speak for the doctors. Who knows what they were thinking. We are going to see a lot of patients told weird stuff as they are sent out the door. Texas is in crisis right now and the system is being overwhelmed.
This is what is meant by "death squads." Decisions are going to be made that are ugly. We should be vigilant on who is sent home, but a lot of nonPOC will also be kicked to the curb.
It would be hard to say. It sounded to me like the child worsened at home. If you were the parent in the first instance, told to go home, what would you do? Hospitals are hot beds for infection. If your child had been looked at, and you were reassured that she was sick but would make it, what would you do?
It is not the parents' fault. It is not their fault.
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Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)I absolutely believe the parents because I have seen some of the healthcare some of the docs in Amarillo give.
dsc
(52,130 posts)under just that theory. I have no idea what percent of pediatricians ascribe to that theory but it is clearly non zero.
Mystery sage
(576 posts)malaise
(267,823 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,455 posts)Probably reflect the feelings of a lot of parents whose children have or have had covid. Unfortunately theirs was one who succumbed. They just did as they were told. We are so much in need of leadership on this issue. Fortunately we will but we'll have to wait two months.
malaise
(267,823 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)RestoreAmerica2020
(3,433 posts)..slowing, cases and deaths are on the increase. I fear for my parents who are in their late 80s, both my sons who work in major trauma centers who have warned me to not leave house for any unnessary errands..stock up on groceries bc from what they dee its going to get worse.
malaise
(267,823 posts)LizBeth
(9,946 posts)message it was almost calling out everything the parents said.
I do not want unreasoned fear, i do want facts but that area of the country dismiss.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)Time to chat with a lawyer.
vercetti2021
(10,150 posts)This has made the local community not give any fucks honestly. Our covid rates are hugely spiking to 400 to 500 a day now. I see more and more people without masks in stores, the schools are open and just letting kids in without safety precautions, bars are open and packed, restaurants are packed, churches are packed.
Amarillo hospitals are at maximum capacity and we just keep getting worse and worse. I hate this fucking city. Our local government has completely mishandled this pandemic from the start.
JCMach1
(27,544 posts)malaise
(267,823 posts)But didn't both the Killa Con and your governor and Lt. Governor dismiss Covid 19 frome arly. I seem to remember the Lt Governor saying that the seniors should sacrifice themselves to keep the economy open.
This is sounding more like genocide to me
58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)Demovictory9
(32,324 posts)Niagara
(7,407 posts)malaise
(267,823 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,746 posts)Even when it's not about something as fraught as a sick child.
I was an airline ticket agent for ten years, and the things passengers would claim we said would boggle the mind.
And making this about race really muddles things.