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GOP donors gave him $130,000, Isn't this illegal? (Original Post) UCmeNdc Nov 2020 OP
Which part? People giving other people money? Not last time I checked. Statistical Nov 2020 #1
Bribery nt Wicked Blue Nov 2020 #3
Paying someone to commit a crime - yes lame54 Nov 2020 #6
You have to prove that he committed the crime for money Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #7
Proof is not needed for a crime to have taken place... lame54 Nov 2020 #11
I don't read any of this as him admitting he took money in exchange for a crime (nt) mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #17
Well, a good lawyer will argue about which came first Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #20
And the tax man cometh... Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #13
Yes Shell_Seas Nov 2020 #2
It seems to be the standard rate FoxNewsSucks Nov 2020 #4
Is there any proof of this supposed $130K other than this random person's tweet? mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #5
It was from a GoFundMe thing as I understand it underpants Nov 2020 #10
Exactly, and GoFundMe issued a statement saying none of the money had been dispersed. Native Nov 2020 #16
So the price for giving false testimony about vote fraud is... hvn_nbr_2 Nov 2020 #8
The postal worker and the Republicans conspired to do this. TruckFump Nov 2020 #9
Not sure you can nab the Republicans for contributing to a GoFundMe ... mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #14
If they knew the purpose, IMO, they could be in trouble, big trouble. TruckFump Nov 2020 #19
Wasn't he paid by James O'Keefe? Beaverhausen Nov 2020 #12
I'm not sure "sending a letter to the doj" is a crime even if it contains fabricated evidence. unblock Nov 2020 #15
Nothing is illegal if you are Bettie Nov 2020 #18

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
1. Which part? People giving other people money? Not last time I checked.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:35 PM
Nov 2020

People lying about fraud that didn't exist? Very much so.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
7. You have to prove that he committed the crime for money
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

Kind of hard unless people were VERY stupid with texts/email.

Which come to think of it, is quite possible.

lame54

(35,130 posts)
11. Proof is not needed for a crime to have taken place...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:43 PM
Nov 2020

Proof is needed for conviction

When the guy admitted to taking the money to tell the lie that is a crime

Pinning it on the individual(s) may be harder

Miguelito Loveless

(4,438 posts)
20. Well, a good lawyer will argue about which came first
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:32 PM
Nov 2020

the reward (in which case it is a bribe) or the statement.

At the very least the GoFundMe people should withhold the money due to fraud on his part.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Is there any proof of this supposed $130K other than this random person's tweet?
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:38 PM
Nov 2020

Last I read (today), dude is now attempting to recant his recanting.

This tweet is from yesterday.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,481 posts)
8. So the price for giving false testimony about vote fraud is...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

just about exactly the same as the price for a porn star to ... ya'know... with Dumpo's mushroom.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
9. The postal worker and the Republicans conspired to do this.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:40 PM
Nov 2020

The act of the postal worker clearly broke the law with the making of the false charges. The Republicans that paid him conspired to have him do this. Any conspiracy that breaks a law is generally chargeable as a felony.

All of them have their asses in a sling IMO.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. Not sure you can nab the Republicans for contributing to a GoFundMe ...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:56 PM
Nov 2020

You'd have to show that they approached him and told him to lie and set up a gofundme, and then promised he'd be paid by them for doing so, then they paid him thusly. Could be tough to prove.

Not saying that DIDN'T happen, but entirely possible it happened in a different order.

Be interesting to see who the large donors were, however.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
19. If they knew the purpose, IMO, they could be in trouble, big trouble.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

It would be interesting to delve into the GO FUND ME to see who set it up and how it was set up.

Beaverhausen

(24,466 posts)
12. Wasn't he paid by James O'Keefe?
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:46 PM
Nov 2020

He seems to be the one supporting this guy. He has offered money for anyone who can prove voter fraud.

unblock

(51,973 posts)
15. I'm not sure "sending a letter to the doj" is a crime even if it contains fabricated evidence.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:56 PM
Nov 2020

Filing a false statement surely is a crime, but an ordinary letter isn't a sworn/affirmed statement, which includes fine print near the signature line saying i understand its perjury if this is a lie.

So I'm not clear on what he actually did, and if it amounts to a false statement that would be illegal.

And if so, if he was paid to commit a crime, then presumably both making and accepting the payments would be crimes as well.

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