Fox News now says 'we're just not sure' if Joe Biden will be next president

[catbyte]

November 11, 2020
By David Edwards

Fox News senior White House correspondent John Roberts now says he’s “not sure” who will be the next president even though his network has called the race for President-elect Joe Biden.

Roberts told Fox News host Bill Hemmer that he expects Republican legislators to have a “hard time” allowing electors to cast their vote for Biden when the Electoral College officially chooses the next president on December 14.

“One thing is that if they do manage to prolong this process, we start to get into December,” Roberts asserted. “There comes a time when these electors have to be seated to vote on who will become president of the United States. And I’m told that the anger out there in these red states is so deep and so palpable, the GOP legislators may have a difficult time seating Biden electors when it comes down to putting in place that process for the vote on December 14th.”

“At some point, you know, people keep on assuring us that on January the 20th a president will be inaugurated,” Roberts added. “We’re just not sure at this point whether it will be a new president or the current president.”

“That’s some really interesting reporting,” Hemmer concluded.

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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/fox-news-now-says-were-just-not-sure-if-joe-biden-will-be-next-president/

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Damnit, now I'm starting to get that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach again. Those bastards will stop at nothing.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. Fox News to its MAGA crowd:

[msongs]

2. rawstory is a sewer nt

[catbyte]

6. It's just reporting what they're saying on fox.

I doubt that David Cay Johnston would write for "a sewer." Common dreams? Agence France-Presse?

[CatMor]

16. I read rawstory all the time ..

they report news from all different sources. They are not kind to trump.

[BumRushDaShow]

39. But unfortunately Raw Story enjoys doing "sensationalist" headlines

and they will provide links to the actual sources but when you go to those sources, it is rarely as "dramatic" as the headline claims.

[TeamPooka]

3. Their decision desk has not changed their call. This is just news heads sucking up to their viewers.

[catbyte]

14. He's saying that republican legislatures won't allow electors voting for Biden, not voter fraud. I

know it won't work here in Michigan because the legislature has no power over choosing electors. I don't know what the laws are in other states, though. But just fomenting magat anger is so fucking irresponsible and it's so sickening to see roberts pushing this seditious crap. He was one of the few reporters at fox with a shred of integrity. Not anymore.

[BumRushDaShow]

44. All the states that were "called" for Biden, except NH

have legislatures that are either all-(D) or mixed-(D)/(R) with either a (D) or (R) Governor -OR- if they are all-(R), have (D) Governors but don't have super-majorities to override a most-certain veto.

So it makes this all moot because even if they supposedly could change their laws to do such a thing, the (D) Governors would veto it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

66. Most of the states have laws requiring EC votes be allocated by vote of the citizens.

They can change that law but they can't make it retroactive.

[Kaleva]

76. In the states that matter, the legislatures are not the ones who pick the electors.

[Cha]

38. I Would think so since they were on

the magats shit list for calling AZ for Biden way early on.

[SharonClark]

4. They're willfully ignorant of EC process.

[mobeau69]

5. That would be a nuclear move resulting in civil war.

[Ferrets are Cool]

7. Feeding the magats with garbage and shit

They do love to eat that kind of stuff.

[SWBTATTReg]

8. This is absolutely BS. Absolutely BS. These crooks need to be shut off the air, and made to stop

with their nonsense. Aiding and abetting the overthrow of an legitimately elected candidate/or refuse to seat him. He should be fired, Roberts for even suggesting this this nonsense.

[RockCreek]

43. Agree! N/t

[dawg day]

9. Filthy traitors

"And I’m told that the anger out there in these red states is so deep and so palpable, the GOP legislators may have a difficult time seating Biden electors when it comes down to putting in place that process for the vote on December 14th.”

What are they so angry about? That more people in their states voted for Biden? That's their idea of what induces wrath?

[Celerity]

71. Angry that the march to a white nationalist christofascist tyranny has been slowed

Zero chance the union survives over the long term if these systemic inputs are continued and even expanded upon. Divisions will only increase, reality and objective truth refused and denied, cast aside as though it was the act of a child putting aside childish toys. A preternatural hate, a thoroughly embedded fear of 'the other', and simply an unquenchable lust for violence will eventually carry the day with the white nationalists and act in a kinetic manner they shall.

My true fear is that the forces allied against this death cult are too atomised, too divided, and at loggerheads with each other to offer up an efficacious countervailing blocking mechanism.

[ck4829]

10. Wouldn't this violate federal law?

They would be interfering with an election and they are knowingly sending an incorrect certification to Congress.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. They must have gotten a sternly-worded memo from His Lardship.

[LiberalArkie]

12. I have no idea of why, but there is a hatred of Biden. a couple of guys told me that they would

prefer Obama over Biden, but they really want Trump to be in office. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

There is something going on that Democrats do not understand. These people in their 20's - 40's do not even care if there is an election. Just as long as a macho man like Trump is in office.

[roamer65]

18. White fascism.

Similar to apartheid South Africa.

[LiberalArkie]

31. I would almost agree, but it is the black young also.

[Mariana]

61. It's become a religion.

I don't even think it can be called a cult anymore, it's become a full-fledged religion, with a divine figure to worship, a holy family, prophets, revelations, professions of faith, heresy, blasphemy, and (they believe) persecution. It lacks a holy book, but it has holy television and radio programs which promulgate the gospel of Trump. They watch and listen, and they believe.

I don't understand it either. It's one of the weirdest phenomena I've ever seen.

[LiberalArkie]

64. And still don't wear seat belts, still throw their trash out the window when driving down the roads

while drinking. But they drive at 55 with no drivers license. The all go after "disablity". I point out that disability is Social Security Disability Insurance and Trump wants to stop it and they say no it isn't it's disability

They are so stupid.. A lawn mower stops running. I ask neighbor "did you check spark plug" No damit it is broke and they go buy another new one on another credit card.

It is hard being 72 and living around 20 - 40 year olds

[Mariana]

67. The majority of voters over 65 cast their ballots for Trump, again.

Most of the 20-40 year old voters went for Biden.

There's obviously plenty of stupidity to go around in every age group.

[LiberalArkie]

69. But that is probably young with some brain cells. Not Arkansas

[Yeehah]

13. Fox "News"is not a legitimate news organization and should not be treated like one

They are nothing more than right-wing propaganda and they adhere to no standards of journalistic ethics.

[catbyte]

17. But one that millions of people watch religiously every day. That's what makes them so dangerous.

[Drunken Irishman]

15. lmao chill. Who cares what red states think anyway?

Trump won those electors anyway.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

28. Biden won multiple red states.

Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia and Arizona. Their state legislatures are GOP controlled.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_state_legislatures

I'll believe it when I see it, though.

[hlthe2b]

30. Prominent Law Professor Response: "But GOP legislators do not "seat" electors at all."

Link to tweet

[Buckeye_Democrat]

33. Thanks!

[Cha]

41. Rt.. So we don't have to worry about

gop legislators?!

TY, hltheb

[BumRushDaShow]

35. But in PA, the legislature does NOT pick the electors (that is in the state Constitution)

and we have a (D) Governor. I posted this down-thread but will stick it up here -

In states like PA, it is the Governor, not the state legislature that selects the electors and we have a (D) Governor and majority-(D) State Supreme Court.

But there is not a legal pathway for the General Assembly to influence this outcome.

Disputed elections fall to the courts, not the Legislature, under the Pennsylvania constitution. Also, state law also does not give the Legislature the ability to appoint presidential electors, a reality GOP leadership have reinforced in public comments over the past week.

https://www.penncapital-star.com/election-2020/the-pa-house-will-review-the-2020-election-but-its-unclear-if-that-changes-the-results/

I may be wrong but I don't think any of the states that have been "called" for Biden so far have a GOP-majority legislature WITHOUT a Democratic Governor (like PA, MI, WI) except for NH, which is all-GOP (but only has 4 electoral votes).

[Buckeye_Democrat]

36. Thanks! Yeah, I think it's a GOP pipe-dream. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

37. I really do think they are now doing this on purpose

to distract from other stuff and keep their base happy.

[Cha]

45. TY for this BRDS! So PA is SAFE 4 BIDEN?

[BumRushDaShow]

46. You betcha!

ETA - I just peeped at the state's election returns site and Biden is now up to +49,783.

https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/

[Cha]

52. TY! Love PA! Remember my son

was born in Philly way back when while we were on vacation.

If you don't remember I understand.. lots of water under the Bridge since we we talked about that!

Almost 50,000.. I like that big number! Is there a cutoff for recount number?

[BumRushDaShow]

53. Oh I remember!

I believe they are going to continue to count until November 23. They still have thousands of mail-ins and provisional ballots left to count across the state but they have been coming in as small batches now.

[Cha]

55. Good Memory!

Thanks for the info.. They must feel pretty sure they're going Biden's way to have called it for him?

[BumRushDaShow]

60. I think they waited until the vote difference was greater than 0.5% to call it

and that happened this past Saturday. Celebrations broke out all over the city, the state, and frankly all around the world!

In fact yesterday at our weekly city COVID-19 presser, the Philly Health Director recommended that anyone who attended one of those "celebrations" quarantine for 14 days since we are spiking with coronavirus here now. (they reported 879 positives yesterday and 761 today).

The state law requires an automatic recount if the difference is < 0.5%. Right now it is slowly closing in on a 1% difference and it has already surpassed what 45 got in 2016 over Hillary (which was ~44,000 votes).

[Cha]

62. Good to Know.. all of it!

The state law requires an automatic recount if the difference is < 0.5%. Right now it is slowly closing in on a 1% difference and it has already surpassed what 45 got in 2016 over Hillary (which was ~44,000 votes).

Sorry about the spiking of the COVID cases & those who celebrated should be quarantined.

What a price to pay for being joyful... that's on trump Lying for months about the Virus.

[BumRushDaShow]

63. From all the images I saw of it

Probably 99% of the people were masked!

Link to tweet

Some of these folks got carried away but they were having fun and everyone was so excited that we took Biden over the threshold!

TEXT

Josie Ensor
@Josiensor
Ballot boxes dancing to Missy Elliot is how Philadelphia is doing right now
7:23 PM · Nov 5, 2020

Since there will be no Mummer's Parade this year, I guess this was the closest to it. I like the dancing City Hall.

[Cha]

65. Wow.. Rt! Philly is Doing Fine Right Now!

Mahalo for letting me know.. Sweet!

[BumRushDaShow]

73. All the media said that when they went after us and we still won

we threw a big block party!

Was gonna link a video but just confirmed that YouTube is down!

https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/11/21561764/youtube-down-outage-loading-videos

[Cha]

74. Wow.. wonder what's up with youtube?

Shouldn't be too long. Mahalo, BRDS!

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Looks like it is back!

Many of the clips were done outside of the Convention Center where they have been counting votes. They went on like that all day and almost all night and then came back the next day and continued on...

[Drunken Irishman]

48. By definition they're not red states if he won 'em lmao

The only two red states would be Arizona and Georgia, which he doesn't need, anyway.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

19. In other words Faux News correspondent says Republican legislators will have

such a "hard time" obeying the law that they're willing to do away with the Constitution and just call America an epic fail.

[OnDoutside]

20. "That's some really interesting reporting," Puleeze, the guy plucked it out of his ass !

[Jarqui]

27. I wish that were true. I'm not so sure it is ...nt

[hlthe2b]

32. Prominent Law Professor Response: "But GOP legislators do not "seat" electors at all."

Link to tweet

[Jarqui]

42. I think what Trump and the GOP are doing is wrong - usurping democracy

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/trump-justices-show-how-theyd-aid-him-in-contested-election.html

But they do have some Supreme Court Justices who do not see it precisely the same way as Hasen

[hlthe2b]

58. Hasen states this can not happen. He is NOT in agreement with RW SCOTUS justices.

You are misreading what he is saying.

The bottom line is that legislatures cannot change the law after an election--only before. And there is neither evidence that the state election failed to document a clear result in any state. That would be the requirement for a legislature to have ANY role.

[torius]

21. They're just scared

and trying to keep the MAGATs at bay until the MAGATs find a shiny new thing.

[Binkie The Clown]

22. I have a feeling that if they try to pull any of that shit.....

the American people will rise up like never before to "storm the Bastille". It will be pitchforks and torches time.

[Amishman]

49. It won't be pitchforks, it will be much more dangerous.

The right aren't the only ones with guns, and not everyone who would nominally be in their side would go along with this.

But yes, if the EC picks anyone other than Biden, this country will be partying like it's 1865.

[malaise]

23. Did they call Alaska for the Killa Con?

Asking for a friend

[Baitball Blogger]

24. What are they thinking? They will have an illegally constituted presidency and no one will treat the

like they're legitimate.

[bottomofthehill]

25. Great, say hello to President Pelosi.

[lillypaddle]

26. Me, too, catbyte

I just want to scream! I'm totally freaking out.

[hlthe2b]

29. Prominent Law Professor Response: "But GOP legislators do not "seat" electors at all."

Link to tweet

Rick Hasen:
Professor of Law and Political Science at UC Irvine; Election Law Blogger. CNN Election Law Analyst. Latest book: Election Meltdown (http://electionmeltdown.com)

[BumRushDaShow]

34. Um no.

In states like PA, it is the Governor, not the state legislature that selects the electors and we have a (D) Governor and majority-(D) State Supreme Court.

But there is not a legal pathway for the General Assembly to influence this outcome.

Disputed elections fall to the courts, not the Legislature, under the Pennsylvania constitution. Also, state law also does not give the Legislature the ability to appoint presidential electors, a reality GOP leadership have reinforced in public comments over the past week.

https://www.penncapital-star.com/election-2020/the-pa-house-will-review-the-2020-election-but-its-unclear-if-that-changes-the-results/

I may be wrong but I don't think any of the states that have been "called" for Biden so far have a GOP-majority legislature WITHOUT a Democratic Governor (like PA, MI, WI) except for NH, which is all-GOP (but only has 4 electoral votes).

[spanone]

40. Fuck them all.

[aaaaaa5a]

47. I don't remember this from blue states when

The last 2 GOP Presidents were elected despite LOSING the popular vote.

If any state or party should have been upset it should have been us.

This is unreal!!!

[Yavin4]

50. While we hem and haw about the filibuster, Republicans are planning to disenfranchise

millions of voters across the nation because their God lost.

[torius]

51. We're angry too

And it’s palpable.They had their four years of emotional-release destruction. Playtime is over.

[Oneironaut]

54. America, Home of the Brave? Yeah Right...

Well, maybe part of America. Republicans are showing such intense cowardice, bowing to a clown dictator-wannabe whose greatest achievement is Celebrity Apprentice. History will remember them as pathetic appeasers who destroyed this country’s norms and reputation.

[Doreen]

56. Sounds like a threat to me.

One can only guess what kind of threat it was but that is what it sounded like.

[Doodley]

57. As many Democratic lawmakers as possible need to be on Fox News to call out their BS, and

ask them where the evidence is. A lawmaker in Texas is offering a million dollars for evidence, why doesn't he have people lining up around the block if there is so much fraud?

[BumRushDaShow]

70. PA's (D) Lt. Governor took that guy up on the offer and wants his $$$

Link to tweet

TEXT

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
·
Nov 10, 2020
Hey, Governor Patrick- it’s your counterpart in Pennsylvania.

I’d like to collect your handsome reward for reporting voter fraud.

I got a dude in Forty Fort, PA who tried to have his dead mom vote for Trump.

I’d like mine in Sheetz gift cards pls.

ps. The Cowboys blow.
Chuck Lindell
@chucklindell
Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, one of the biggest Trump boosters in Texas, says he'll pay up $1 million to encourage and reward those who report voter fraud. If info leads to arrest/ conviction for voter fraud. expect at least $25,000, he says.

John Fetterman
@JohnFetterman
One MILLION Dollars!!!!!
Man arrested for voter fraud in Luzerne County
Police say he tried to apply for an absentee ballot for his dead mother.
wnep.com
6:50 PM · Nov 10, 2020 from Braddock, PA

And he even slid in there "The Cowboys blow." (and I agree)

[Initech]

68. Then I'm just not sure if Fox is a real news network or a hostile foreign intelligence agency.

Fuck you Fox.

[Tommymac]

72. Neither. It is licensed as an entertainment network.

It's The National Enquirer of the airwaves.

[Kaleva]

77. This isn't Fox News. It's just one reporter's opinion.

This part doesn't make sense:

" And I’m told that the anger out there in these red states is so deep and so palpable, the GOP legislators may have a difficult time seating Biden electors when it comes down to putting in place that process for the vote on December 14th."

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/fox-news-now-says-were-just-not-sure-if-joe-biden-will-be-next-president/

Which red state voted for Biden? Battleground states such as PA, MI, WI and so on are not considered red. Is he talking about Nebraska which spilts its EC vote?