RANT: It is going to be 90 FUCKING DEGREES next week in Phoenix.

[Coventina]

In mid-November.

When I was growing up here in Phoenix, it was not uncommon for us to have freeze warnings in November.

How is this not an emergency?

The planet is burning down around us and nothing is being done.

Yes, I get that Biden will have us rejoin the Paris accords. Great.

I just hope it's not too late.

[Turin_C3PO]

1. My personal belief

is that it may be too late to significantly alter our path to climate hell. Hope I’m wrong and we can prevent some of the damage.

[Coventina]

3. I also think it is too late. Thank god/dess I'm over 50.

And have no surviving children.

I feel sorry for young people. They have been royally screwed.

I live in a tiny house and have kept my carbon footprint as low as I can since I was a college student and first learned about the impending global apocalypse.

I became a vegetarian, and all sorts of stuff.

I don't know what difference it made, but hopefully my karma will reflect my efforts.

*sigh*

[Ananda62]

4. Yes, it's too late

While I’m pushing 60 and will probably be dead before the worst of it, I have a 30 yr old son. I worry about him and his future. While I had planned to spoil a grandchild or two in my old age, I now hope he chooses not to have kids.

[FirstLight]

10. Both my teens are onboard wioth not needing to have kids...

My daughter is very politically savvy and active and believes there are and will be planty of kids who need good parents, why bring another mouth to feed onto the planet...

My teen son's oputlook is pretty bleak, but he keep the idea open as an option if he gets married and his wife wants kids, or if things start to run around

I told them I in NO way need grandkids to validate my existence or heritage, so I hope they are ok with it...

[Turin_C3PO]

5. That's great that you've been

so conscientious since you were young! I’m 36 and only recently started trying to reduce my carbon footprint. I’m trying to go vegetarian but it’s hard. I’m a typical meat and potatoes white guy lol.

[Coventina]

6. Good for you!

I'm sorry to be so bleak.

I still have a little hope that maybe science can come to our collective rescue with ideas to balance our damage.

I think PBS has an upcoming Nova episode called "Can We Cool the Planet?"

I can't decide if I want to watch it or not.

Will it give me hope? Or dash it?

Or, could attempts to "fix" things go horribly awry?

[CanonRay]

2. I read years ago that if we passed 400ppm we were fd

We are long past that.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

7. Isn't fresh water availability one of your main concerns there?

Just curious how the higher average temperatures would affect your water supply......


KY.........

[Coventina]

8. Yes. Traditionally, water has not been a concern for Phoenix because long ago

an extensive dam system was installed for all of the local watershed.

But, climate change has changed our snowpack in N. Arizona.
And by "changed" I mean "obliterated."

We no longer get snow in northern Arizona, hence, our dam system becomes useless.

At some point, our aquifers will run dry.

Then, Phoenix will be no more.

Which is fine, actually.

I hate living here, I always have.

But, I have a tenured position here, so until that goes away, I'm here for the duration.
(Or I retire, which I will be packing my U-Haul the next day!)

[Devilsun]

9. Its been a brutally hot year for Arizona 👹

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Hotizona

What might become the next named storm - "Iota" - is getting close to TD status in a few days, which means the number of Atlantic tropical cyclones this year have blown past the previous record for named storms in a season (and we still have a few more weeks left in the "season", although theyll still count them if they keep coming after November 30).

[Ponietz]

12. Genocide is their strategy

—aggressive moves toward Canada
—alliance with Russia
—“buying” Greenland
—a southern border wall
—letting Covid run rampant

Stay home. Stop eating red meat. Grow food. Pray.

[Snackshack]

13. Unfortunately

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It is way too late. 20-25 yrs ago had humanity really cared about this and actually bought in to making some changes that would have caused some inconvenience at the time but certainly nothing too painful. Such as switching to electric transportation, making greater use of solar/wind energy, the hemp plant things beyond changing household light bulbs we could have probably avoided serious changes in weather patterns and its effect on the environment and biosphere...but we didn’t.

Today we sit at 414ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. A number not ever seen in the historical climate record for at least the last 800,000 yrs. That is simply catastrophic. The data going back 800k years and more shows the temperature tracking uniformly with CO2 and in all that time CO2 never got above ~320ppm. The last time is was even close to 320ppm there palm trees in Antarctica. The temp always lags behind CO2 but it always catches up. When it does that is going to be a 5C+ (possibly much more) rise in temperature. That is going the wreak havoc on life as we know it today and the finely tuned balance that took nature 1000’s of years to settle into as far as rainfall patterns, snowpacks to feed rivers, temperatures that plants/crops can grow in... what we depend on to grown enough food to feed 7 billion people. David Wallace Wells wrote a very good book about this. It is very depressing...

I am in my 50’s I will probably not live long enough to see all the ice gone and full effect of what is already in the pipeline and coming our way. I also have no children but my friends do and I feel terrible for what those children and anyone born in the last 20 yrs on are going to go through. They will have every right to look back on us and the few generations before us and hold us in utter contempt for our selfishness. Scientists knew that this could happen since the early 1900’s but it was not certain, in the 70’s-80’s we realized it was very real by the 2000’s there was no doubt...yet we did nothing and at this point whatever happens we are now just along for the ride.

[hatrack]

14. IIRC, the temperature in Phoenix went 28 days this summer w/o dropping below 90F

Welcome to the future.