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tulipsandroses

(5,090 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:33 AM Nov 2020

Welcome to the Matriarchy: The Manosphere Is Freaking Out Over a Kamala Harris Presidency

Welcome to the Matriarchy: The Manosphere Is Freaking Out Over a Kamala Harris Presidency

A storyline is gaining traction in the manosphere, one that seems likely to explode once Biden is sworn in: that Democrats are calculatedly sneaking in our first woman president. The theory holds that either Biden will die and Harris will take over power, or she will be his puppet master from behind the scenes. It is all part of a paranoid fantasy about gynocentric “pinkout” of “femoid” political control, which will usher in matriarchy and feminist control.

This anti-feminist conspiracy theory is only buoyed by the baseless claims of mail-in voter fraud that currently dominate the manosphere. This loose network of anti-feminist online communities, known for its divisive fractures, is now overwhelmingly united in the false claim of a stolen election. Of course, it’s the same plotline seeded many months ago by President Donald Trump, one that’s perfectly tailored for the manosphere’s conspiratorial, disenfranchised mindset—a world where mainstream “illusions” are punctured, turning the oppressed into oppressors, losers into winners. Even those who consider themselves apolitical—because all politicians are “manginas,” because real men make their own reality, because a new POTUS shouldn’t hurt your chances of getting laid, bro—are now railing against the legitimacy of a Biden presidency.

Here, in the pairing of these two conspiracy theories, is the alternate reality in which the manosphere will be living for the next four years: a stolen election that brings men under a woman’s rule. Four years ago, the Red Pill forum, and the broader manosphere, identified the presidential runoff between Trump and Hillary Clinton as a “war on men” and celebrated the former candidate as “an alpha male who would fight for men’s political fortune,” as scholars have put it. Now, as Trump contests the election results, a more extreme version of that narrative is taking hold, one in which the war on men has been fought and unfairly won. It’s probable that a Biden/Harris administration will only fuel this conviction.
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Others spent last week questioning women’s right to vote. Anthony “Dream” Johnson, an antagonist of Tomassi, a vocal Trump supporter, and the self-described “president of the manosphere,” RTed a tweet suggesting that women voting goes against “God’s ordained order of men being the leaders” and “has only caused chaos in our country.” (Previously, Johnson has suggested that “all women should vote how their husbands tell them.”)
Yeah, tell me again why I'm supposed to understand these folks? Trump supporters are fueled by hate, one way or the other.
[link:https://jezebel.com/welcome-to-the-matriarchy-the-manosphere-is-freaking-o-1845624023|

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Welcome to the Matriarchy: The Manosphere Is Freaking Out Over a Kamala Harris Presidency (Original Post) tulipsandroses Nov 2020 OP
My sister believes this TlalocW Nov 2020 #1
Good move to offer a little wager gratuitous Nov 2020 #14
The GOP is tending the garden of anti-feminism just as they have cultivated applegrove Nov 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #13
This was the real problem with Hillary, according to these schmucks, wasn't it? fierywoman Nov 2020 #3
It sure was! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #5
Of course whathehell Nov 2020 #12
eek! wimminses! struggle4progress Nov 2020 #4
I, for one, welcome our new feminist overlords. ZZenith Nov 2020 #6
I wonder what they would have done if tRump switched his slate and ran with Haley. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #7
Aren't these the same rubes who vote for women governors in red states?? AZ8theist Nov 2020 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #9
Wow, they really are afraid of a woman becoming the president. UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #10
But incompetent Sarah Palin was fine with them so go figure wishstar Nov 2020 #11
Sneaky Joe Biden! jcgoldie Nov 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Nov 2020 #16
I have a sneaking feeling a black woman VP was a large part of the reason for the tRump votes lettucebe Nov 2020 #17

TlalocW

(15,358 posts)
1. My sister believes this
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:51 AM
Nov 2020

She's convinced that somehow during his presidency, Kamala will definitely take over. They're either going to Amendment 25th him, or he will die mysteriously.

I tried to get her to make a $100 bet on it - even for charity. She could choose any one she wanted, including anti-abortion ones for me to donate to if she were right, and if I were, her money would go to a ferret rescue, but no go. She doesn't bet for "religious" reasons.

TlalocW

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. Good move to offer a little wager
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 01:57 PM
Nov 2020

But if she doesn't want to bet for "religious" reasons, then say, "Okay, write it down. You're saying Kamala Harris will become president because of Joe Biden's removal from office or sudden death. When is that going to happen? By February 1, 2021? June 1? January 1, 2022? Name a date, and initial the paper. I'll hold it until the date you say, and we'll see how right you are."

If she turtles on that, suggest she fails to have the courage of her convictions, and should perhaps avail herself of the opportunity to shut up more. (You can probably say that more diplomatically than I did.)

applegrove

(118,006 posts)
2. The GOP is tending the garden of anti-feminism just as they have cultivated
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 04:00 AM
Nov 2020

racism. They figure they can get men who want to go back to when they were kings and their wives had little say. Ties the real dangerous masogynists + the uneducated + the base. That is the republican coalition now and we should say it every time we talk of their coalition.

Response to applegrove (Reply #2)

whathehell

(28,968 posts)
12. Of course
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:47 AM
Nov 2020

and not just ANY woman, but a seriously smart one who demonstrates no appeasement gestures, I.e. "grinning and shuffling", to alleviate male fear.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
7. I wonder what they would have done if tRump switched his slate and ran with Haley.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 05:43 AM
Nov 2020

I'll bet they would have treated her like she is their mommy......

Hypocrites, every damn one......

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

UCmeNdc

(9,589 posts)
10. Wow, they really are afraid of a woman becoming the president.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:10 AM
Nov 2020

I think Kamala Harris is a very capable person and the USA would be very lucky to have her as president if something should happen to Biden. It si crazy how much hate these GOP men have of women.

wishstar

(5,267 posts)
11. But incompetent Sarah Palin was fine with them so go figure
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 06:26 AM
Nov 2020

They only bash Democratic women while accepting Republican women in power.

The hypocrites are able to ignore their misogyny and their patriarchal tendencies to support Republican women as long as those women go along with their views.

Response to jcgoldie (Reply #15)

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
17. I have a sneaking feeling a black woman VP was a large part of the reason for the tRump votes
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:28 PM
Nov 2020

First a black man! The horror but now a black woman? It just cannot get any worse, so they vote no thanks. Simple. It's not so much color prejudice as gender. Women are still the kryptonite.

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